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So... playing a minis game when you didn't intend to show up to play one. Again, there's a good reason that 4e did like shit to the point a 3.5 duplicate kicked its ass at the time. That style of play isn't that popular. People wanted to explore and dungeon delve, not just play Warhams fantasy with a bigger HD pool.
 
The Ugly One said:
Set piece battles with environmental hazards and active traps were fantastic in 4e. Just take for granted than a battle will take an hour or more, then think about what an interesting hour-long battle looks like. Terrain should shift, waves of new minions should appear, fire jets shoot out of the walls, that kind of thing.
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4e is the only edition of D&D where you can build an entire character around shouting "THIS IS SPARTA!" and chucking enemies into bottomless pits and/or other environmental hazards and have it be even halfway viable.
 
Adamska said:
So... playing a minis game when you didn't intend to show up to play one. Again, there's a good reason that 4e did like shit to the point a 3.5 duplicate kicked its ass at the time. That style of play isn't that popular. People wanted to explore and dungeon delve, not just play Warhams fantasy with a bigger HD pool.
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IIRC, it actually brought in more new players than 3rd edition did, but it lost a ton of old players for obvious reasons. Sales began collapsing when they split the market with the confusing Essentials line. Splat churn (same strategy that killed 3.5) and poor adventure quality didn't help, either. I don't remember a single 1st-party adventure receiving even tepid reviews.
 
It's my first time playing DnD, how do you deal with a vindictive DM? I've been doing research on the different abilities my character can do that matches my level and reading different play styles I can use that I would have never thought of as I'm so new to DnD. The DM isn't happy about this and is causing my checks to fail even when I roll a 19 with a plus 4. I'm playing as a Rogue and he's not happy that I'm finding ways to use sneak consistently. He accused me of making rules up and to tell him where I read it. He then got mad that I sent him links to the rules saying it's allowed and even tweets from the creator of 5e agreeing with the reasoning asking why I sent him those links and that he would look into them himself.
 
Kit Marz said:
It's my first time playing DnD, how do you deal with a vindictive DM? I've been doing research on the different abilities my character can do that matches my level and reading different play styles I can use that I would have never thought of as I'm so new to DnD. The DM isn't happy about this and is causing my checks to fail even when I roll a 19 with a plus 4. I'm playing as a Rogue and he's not happy that I'm finding ways to use sneak consistently. He accused me of making rules up and to tell him where I read it. He then got mad that I sent him links to the rules saying it's allowed and even tweets from the creator of 5e agreeing with the reasoning asking why I sent him those links and that he would look into them himself.
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Educate the other players so it's not just you calling him on bullshit. If he doesn't wise up from this then call him a faggot and find a better game.
 
Adamska said:
So... playing a minis game when you didn't intend to show up to play one. Again, there's a good reason that 4e did like shit to the point a 3.5 duplicate kicked its ass at the time. That style of play isn't that popular. People wanted to explore and dungeon delve, not just play Warhams fantasy with a bigger HD pool.
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is that why everyone is playing 5e on roll20 which is basically a miniature game just in 2d (and wotc designing content to be played this way)?

Gingervitis said:
I wish D&D would revisit the idea of playing as a dragon, even a wyrmling. I think Dragon Magazine did it the best, and if WotC just revisited the idea of playing one, it might work
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you know if wotc does it it's gonna look like this:

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better option:
https://battlezoo.com/products/battlezoo-ancestries-dragons-hardcover
 
There's always Council of Wyrms?

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If you can withstand the AD&D autism, anyway.
 
Kit Marz said:
It's my first time playing DnD, how do you deal with a vindictive DM? I've been doing research on the different abilities my character can do that matches my level and reading different play styles I can use that I would have never thought of as I'm so new to DnD. The DM isn't happy about this and is causing my checks to fail even when I roll a 19 with a plus 4. I'm playing as a Rogue and he's not happy that I'm finding ways to use sneak consistently. He accused me of making rules up and to tell him where I read it. He then got mad that I sent him links to the rules saying it's allowed and even tweets from the creator of 5e agreeing with the reasoning asking why I sent him those links and that he would look into them himself.
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I suggest you do the same thing when the kid in the neighborhood who owns the football keeps making up rules so he always wins: stop playing with him.

Games are supposed to be fun.
 
Starting to run Abomination Vaults for Pathfinder 2E tomorrow. We have:

1. A Elf male Ranger
2. A Elf female Cleric
3. A Gobin female Rogue, shortstack.
4. A Orc female Barbarian. Man hating "It's Ma'am" type. She likes to cut the balls off her male enemies that she kills and craft them into coin purses to sell in town.

Should be fun. They don't know each other to start.
 
Kit Marz said:
It's my first time playing DnD, how do you deal with a vindictive DM? I've been doing research on the different abilities my character can do that matches my level and reading different play styles I can use that I would have never thought of as I'm so new to DnD. The DM isn't happy about this and is causing my checks to fail even when I roll a 19 with a plus 4. I'm playing as a Rogue and he's not happy that I'm finding ways to use sneak consistently. He accused me of making rules up and to tell him where I read it. He then got mad that I sent him links to the rules saying it's allowed and even tweets from the creator of 5e agreeing with the reasoning asking why I sent him those links and that he would look into them himself.
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There's gotta be something more to this. What rule(s) in particular is he balking at? Bitching about a rogue getting sneak attack off is some low-rent shit, it's not exactly like you're one shotting his encounters.
 
Brain Problems said:
There's gotta be something more to this. What rule(s) in particular is he balking at? Bitching about a rogue getting sneak attack off is some low-rent shit, it's not exactly like you're one shotting his encounters.
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He doesn't like that I can set it up to have a sneak attack on my turn and then potentially have a sneak attack as an opportunity attack in the same round. The rules say I can sneak once per turn, not round. Looking through other forums, including the guy who co-created 5e, they agree with the interpretation. Obviously since I only get one reaction I would only be able to do one opportunity attack per round, so at most I could only do two sneak attacks per round.
 
Kit Marz said:
He doesn't like that I can set it up to have a sneak attack on my turn and then potentially have a sneak attack as an opportunity attack in the same round. The rules say I can sneak once per turn, not round. Looking through other forums, including the guy who co-created 5e, they agree with the interpretation. Obviously since I only get one reaction I would only be able to do one opportunity attack per round, so at most I could only do two sneak attacks per round.
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How... how often are you getting off two though? What is he doing with his DMing that he's moving enemies away from you often enough that he's getting pissy about triggering the bonus attack? Whenever I roll a Rogue I'm happy to get my single sneak attack.
 
Brain Problems said:
How... how often are you getting off two though? What is he doing with his DMing that he's moving enemies away from you often enough that he's getting pissy about triggering the bonus attack? Whenever I roll a Rogue I'm happy to get my single sneak attack.
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That's the thing, he was mad that I could potentially get two sneaks in. I usually play ranged and im not near enemies most of the time. I'm new to the game and have been wanted to learn about different play styles and techniques and just brought up this potential to him. It's a situation that will almost certainly not come up, but for some reason got him upset
 
Kit Marz said:
That's the thing, he was mad that I could potentially get two sneaks in. I usually play ranged and im not near enemies most of the time. I'm new to the game and have been wanted to learn about different play styles and techniques and just brought up this potential to him. It's a situation that will almost certainly not come up, but for some reason got him upset
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He's wrong, and you're right. Also, remember, you only get one reaction per round, so it's not a big deal. If you use it to get another Sneak Attack off, it means you can be walloped with no ability to use your Uncanny Dodge.
 
Scream Aim Fire said:
Was wanting to ask you guys; as anyone ever attempted to play a villain game in Shadowrun? It seems like many of the games I see these days always pandering to the dangerhair crowd; every Sr game seems to be "player crew is made up of a bunch of troon metahumans, some crowbarred shit about the Night of Rage, the megacorporations are basically just there", etc. It seems like most of the players that seem to be around these days are playing the game solely for the anarchist bent and getting to fight some thinly veiled stand-in for right-wing politics.

Anyone ever play a game or two where the players get to start going after the wokies? Like, playing as Humanis, or even the Horrors?
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Hikaru86 said:
I kinda wanted to play with Corpo myself. Blasting danger hair shadowrunners looks more funny them playing "magicrun" or other boring shit.
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Gingervitis said:
Honestly, I would love to play as a Pinkerton in a cyberpunk world.
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Either corporate "cleaners", local cops that are in over their heads, and private security are all character concepts that could double as campaign ideas I've played with in my head, but I lack a regular group, and I don't feel like getting screeched at by randos off the internet. I get a big draw is trying to be a spanner in the works for "le big Shinra Corp" stand-in, but they're hardly the only opposition you can find in Shadowrun.
Scream Aim Fire said:
I mean, in reality, plenty of the dangerhairs do support corporations; hilariously ironic that the supposed "freedom fighters" are the ones that support a totalitarian state, but that's how it is. If anything, I could imagine that the dangerhair shadowrunners would all be in service to the corps; bunch of champaign socialist idiots.
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Honestly, they're the perfect patsies for a smart Corpo Johnson. From false flags to just being plain disposable, throwing them at a meat grinder "business rival" to see what their security measures are. Sadly they aren't long for the world, but you can always find replacements.
 
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