UN Swedish Election Megathread

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_general_election,_2018

The 2018 Swedish general election, scheduled for Sunday 9 September 2018, will elect the members of the Riksdag which in turn will elect the Prime Minister of Sweden.

Political parties in the riksdag

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Socialdemokraterna (The Social Democrats) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party
Party leader (and prime minister): Stefan Löfven

Moderaterna (The Moderate Party) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate_Party
Party leader: Ulf Kristersson

Sverigedemokraterna (The Sweden Democrats) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats
Party leader: Jimmie Åkesson

Miljöpartiet (The Green Party) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_(Sweden)
Party leaders: Gustav Fridolin, Isabella Lövin

Centerpartiet (The Center Party) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Sweden)
Party leader: Annie Lööf

Vänsterpartiet (The Left Party) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Party_(Sweden)
Party leader: Jonas Sjöstedt

Folkpartiet Liberalerna (The Liberal Party) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberals_(Sweden)
Party leader: Jan Björklund

Kristdemokraterna (The Christian Democrats) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrats_(Sweden)
Party leader: Ebba Busch Thor

Other political parties worthy of note

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Medborgerlig samling (Citizens' Coalition) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens'_Coalition
Party leader: Ilan Sadé

Feministiskt initiativ (Feminist Initiative) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_Initiative_(Sweden)
Party leaders: Gudrun Schyman, Gita Nabavi

Alternativ för Sverige (Alternative for Sweden) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Sweden
Party leader: Gustav Kasselstrand

Who do you think is going to win? If you are Swedish, who are you planning to vote for?

https://www.dn.se/nyheter/politik/dnipsos-kd-klarar-sparren-for-forsta-gangen-pa-over-ett-ar/
>MP and KD above four percent for the first time in months
>SD is still bigger than M
>S still the biggest party but 24,9 % is ridiculously low for a party that used to get 40-50 % of the votes once upon a time
>The "Red Green" bloc (40,4) is bigger than the Alliance (37,7)

 

[MidUSA]

Preliminary pollingstation-poll is in.

Left bloc:
S: 26.2 procent
V: 9,0 procent
MP: 4,2 procent

Right bloc:
M: 17,8 procent
C: 8,9 procent
KD: 7,4 procent
L: 5,5 procent


SD: 19,2 procent

We could actually see MP (the green party) drop under 4% and thus get no representation. That would be awesome

If this stands we have SD on 19,2 and the right-bloc and left-bloc almost identical in size.
But as I said, I predict SD to go up a few %, and if MP gets wrecked by the 4% barrier that really hurts the left bloc.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

Literally the only thing that matters in this election is kicking out the hundreds of thousands of migrants which arrive in Sweden every year. There's a reason they have the world's second highest rape rate.
Ironic how the most Nordic Aryan nations hate their own ethnicity the most.

Sweden ≠ All Nordic nations. There are probably people who hate their own ethnicity in Norway, Denmark, Finland and Iceland as well, but generally, our immigration charades are viewed with skepticism. SVT and DR hosted a debate between Swedish and Danish politicians a few years ago and their views on the subject of immigration were rather different (note that it took place a few weeks before the refugee crisis reached its peak and the government had to change their policy on immigration):

As for the "world's second highest rape rate" bit, that is definitely not true as reported rapes ≠ actual rapes. For example, rape is a crime that is very rarely reported in Afghanistan, but does that mean that the actual rape rate is lower than in Sweden? Given the fact that men from Afghanistan are highly overrepresented in sex crimes (notably gang rapes and assault rapes), it's highly unlikely. That being said, there has been a drastic increase which can be largely attributed to our immigration policy, so I don't think it's completely out there to say that we might have one of the highest rates of actual rape in Europe.

I say all this because I don’t want you to make the same mistakes we did. I’m not talking about voting for the “wrong” people-it’s not my business to tell anyone else how to vote-I’m talking about apathy. In 2016 the majority of eligible Americans didn’t vote at all, and their lack of care fucks up the process because it means that politicians know they don’t have to listen to anyone but a certain portion of the “right” people to win.

So even if you get absolutely disgusted by it, you gottta participate and do something in some small way or things just get worse. Don’t take the good things you have for granted, don’t be naive about the future. It has to be actively safeguarded so the apocalypse the right wing talks about doesn’t actually happen.

There have been many reports of long queues outside of the voting stations (despite the fact that many people voted in advance this year). Sweden has many problems in relation to our politics, but luckily, it appears that political apathy is not one of them

 

[Big Nasty]

The Elections Agency website where the vote count is to be presented seems to be down.

Edit: Now its working, first results are from the salty sea dog islands of Orust and Öckerö.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

The possibility of MP getting kicked out makes me feel so warm inside. So much bullshit would be gone, they would no longer be the party that can tip the scales when decisions are decided upon. The islamist would have to find another home on the national level, the big-hipped women that believes in pseudo-science(anti-vaxxers, "electricity allergy", reverse polarity water...) would have to find another place to shit up with their nonsense.

 

[MidUSA]

You can follow the actual reported results here: https://valresultat.svt.se/2018/
Only 0,1% of the districts reported atm.

EDIT:
267 of 6 004 districts counted.

SD: 21,1
MP: 3,5


Considering this is mostly small and rural districts though, I fear MP will tip over 4% in the end.

(People living in rural places tend to dislike MP since they hate cars and don't think considerations need to be taken to people that have to drive 20 miles to the nearest foodstore and try to make it too expensive for regular people to buy gas. They themselves live in the big cities and can take the bike or the subway)

 

[Silence of the Troons]

The election results so far

 

[MidUSA]

I have a feeling that they'll get significantly less than what they're polling at, for various of reasons. 19% would be a strong result for them and if they go above 20% I would be genuinely surprised.

Looks like you were right on this.

SD looks like they won't reach 19% with just a few percent of the votes left unreported now. What made you predict this? SD has always tended to be underrepresented in the polls before.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

The sad thing is, these election results will not be seen as a warning shot that bigger things are going to happen if politicians remain on their course. They will treat this as "dodging a bullet" as if the 'threat' of the SD winning will be gone forever. It's this kind of shortsightedness that's getting countries in the EU into trouble.

The chance to do something about the massive, imminent problems that will arise both due to unchecked migration and those that will use violence to fight against this is now. But with every election where the old powers barely hold on to their position, they just go "Looks like we did it again" and make politics as if there was no tomorrow.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

 

[OwO What's This?]

Maybe next time post about the Swedish elections in the 'smaller stories' sticky.

 

[MidUSA]

The sad thing is, these election results will not be seen as a warning shot that bigger things are going to happen if politicians remain on their course. They will treat this as "dodging a bullet" as if the 'threat' of the SD winning will be gone forever. It's this kind of shortsightedness that's getting countries in the EU into trouble.

The chance to do something about the massive, imminent problems that will arise both due to unchecked migration and those that will use violence to fight against this is now. But with every election where the old powers barely hold on to their position, they just go "Looks like we did it again" and make politics as if there was no tomorrow.

They basically said the exact thing about SD last election when they got around 12%

"We've failed in communicating to the electorate our position and alternative to SD's politics about the immigration issue"
Cue 4 years of them trying to wave away the immigration issue and call SD racists and fascists.

and four years later today:
"We've failed in communicating to the electorate our position and alternative to SD's politics about the immigration issue"

Their problem is that they don't actually have an alternative solution since anything that needs to be done is along the lines of what SD wants and they'll get cucked by the media if they try to do something.

Another alternative is to just live in your own reality bubble and ignore anything that don't fit your narrative. MP did just that and had great numbers in 2014. Unfortunately for them they got into the government and had to take responsibility for their actions. The refugee crisis struck. The reality of unchecked borders struck MP and they had to conform to reality. They now get barely 4%.

 

[Unseemly and Feral]

What was the reason the SD ended up doing worse than expected? Issues with polling? I kept hearing projections of like 25% but 5 or 6 points off sounds a little bigger than a standard margin of error.

 

[soy_king]

Probably late but whatever, but I'm quite surprised the Social Democrats did so well, and the SD did at the lower end of their expected result. I assumed the Social Democrats would get at most 25%.

 

[MidUSA]

What was the reason the SD ended up doing worse than expected? Issues with polling? I kept hearing projections of like 25% but 5 or 6 points off sounds a little bigger than a standard margin of error.

The actual polls weren't that much off. More like 2 points above.

The projections of SD maybe reaching upwards of 25% was due to SD historically always polling lower than their actual results. Partially because there's a stigma against voting SD and their voters are more distrusting of mainstream media and government organs so their response frequencies were lower than polling institutes counted for.

This time I suspect it's a combination between the polling institutes getting better at weighing and compensating their data to account for the SD voters reluctance of participating as well as the stigma of voting SD has decreased as party gotten bigger. Plus bigger parties are inherently easier to get right since their voters constitutes a bigger sample.

 

[soy_king]

So if I were to venture a guess as to how the government is to be formed, I would probably venture there will be a Grand coalition of the leftist parties with the Liberals and Centre Party. The Alliance seems to have too much conflict over immigration, and the Liberals and Centre seem as if they'd be willing to work with the Left.

 

[Ineedahero]

As for the "world's second highest rape rate" bit, that is definitely not true as reported rapes ≠ actual rapes. For example, rape is a crime that is very rarely reported in Afghanistan, but does that mean that the actual rape rate is lower than in Sweden? Given the fact that men from Afghanistan are highly overrepresented in sex crimes (notably gang rapes and assault rapes), it's highly unlikely. That being said, there has been a drastic increase which can be largely attributed to our immigration policy, so I don't think it's completely out there to say that we might have one of the highest rates of actual rape in Europe.

so Afghanistan might be worse? What a load off everyone's minds that would be.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

It's worth noting that the elections aren't over yet as they still need to count the overseas votes (they'll be coming in Wednesday). That being said, if the Alliance parties don't manage to get their shit together and hew down Steffe & friends https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/qngy40/lofven-blockoverskridande-politik-ar-framtiden
It looks like we will be getting another four years of KÄBBEL whether we like it or not. Hooray!

so Afghanistan might be worse? What a load off everyone's minds that would be.

It's not a matter of "taking a load off everyone's minds" as much as it is a matter of correcting an incorrect assertion that is thrown around a lot. Claiming that Sweden has the "world's second highest rape rate" isn't going to help us solve our problems with the increasing sex crime rate any more than Ylva Johansson's lies about the level of rapes "going down and going down and going down".

 

[Ineedahero]

It's worth noting that the elections aren't over yet as they still need to count the overseas votes (they'll be coming in Wednesday). That being said, if the Alliance parties don't manage to get their shit together and hew down Steffe & friends https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/qngy40/lofven-blockoverskridande-politik-ar-framtiden
It looks like we will be getting another four years of KÄBBEL whether we like it or not. Hooray!It's not a matter of "taking a load off everyone's minds" as much as it is a matter of correcting an incorrect assertion that is thrown around a lot. Claiming that Sweden has the "world's second highest rape rate" isn't going to help us solve our problems with the increasing sex crime rate any more than Ylva Johansson's lies about the level of rapes "going down and going down and going down".

If you don't include Afghanistan, or the Congo, or any of the multiple other places that lack the infrastructure required to gather information on the population, aren't included, is the stat accurate? You addressed it as if it were, which makes comparing it to a blatant lie pretty rich. It shouldn't even be comparable, Sweden is a first world country with third world rape statistics.

I don't know, you just seem hung up on what seems like a true statement.

 

[Male Idiot]

I expected the left to win in a landslide. I guess some of the Swedes don't want more enrichment... but too little, too late. Way too late.

 

[ICametoLurk]

>Feminist party only had 1/10th of the votes compared to last riksdag elections
>no majority coalition -> new elections(hopefully)