UN Swedish Election Megathread

ForTheHoard · Aug 25, 2018

Big Nasty said:
https://ledarsidorna.se/2018/08/apparent-irregularities-in-swedish-early-voting/

Why have different ballots for each party? Put all the parties on 1 ballot. Be more like America and this shit wouldn't be a problem.

Smaug's Smokey Hole · Aug 29, 2018

It's been revealed that the Social Democrats in Sävsjö have been busy spreading lies about the Moderates(M) and the Swedish Democrats(SD) on the internet. Nothing strange about that, what's remarkable is that it was done in an Arabic group on Facebook, in Arabic. It was shared thousands of times before it was removed.

The person representing the Social Democrats, now ejected from the party, claimed that M and SD is trying to create a conflict between immigrants and Swedes, it also claims that they want to make the hijab illegal for those under 18, make halal meat haram, close all Islamic schools and mosques, send people back to their home countries, accuse muslim parents of crimes to take their children and finally, the true and tested way of getting immigrants on the hook: saying that M and SD will take away their gubmint gibs.

The "accuse us of crimes to take away our children" thing is a relatively new conspiracy theory and it was speculated that the recent car bbq was some sort of retribution for that.

This was discovered by Galaxia Elias, who is not a black stripper but a woman with an immigrant background that reads arabic and translated the post, but it was initially attributed to "right-wing debater" Rebecca Uvell who would have been easier to dismiss.

Will anyone from the Social Democrats post in that group again and try to correct their mistake? Not likely.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/s-topparna-skarpa-reaktion-efter-skandalen-i-savjso

Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth · Aug 29, 2018

Race baiting from pro-immigrant progressives to gain political power?

Well now, that's just unheard of.

Big Nasty · Aug 29, 2018

Becoming dependent on the "immigrant vote" is a slow-acting poison for a political party.

Without the immigrants the Social Democratic voter basis would be restricted to the elderly, the good old boy trade union bullies and the Dolores Umbridge-type low ranking civil servants.

Foltest · Aug 29, 2018

I wonder how S thought that they could get away with this shit in this day and age? With Twitter and other social media, people will find stuff like this out. Another reason why S is a shit party.

Silence of the Troons · Aug 29, 2018

This circus isn't over. Arabic SSU (the Arabic part of the Social Democratic youth wing) continue spreading lies:
https://twitter.com/RebeccaWUvell/status/1034766955796942849

Google translate said:
This is a real scandal.

Now, the Arabic SSU on Facebook is spreading the lies in a revised form, where some points are changed but the lie consists.

Via Google Translate you get an idea of what the text contains - it's the same lies that spread from Sävsjö.

This is the problem of conscious lies online, pure trolls - that they have eternal life. Even if you delete the original. And the sisters do not respond when the media rings or when the moderators demand that they take responsibility. Symptomatically for the social democrats, unfortunately, ducking when it comes to taking responsibility over their own members.

Reason?

It serves on lies. Of course.

They have no incentive to remove this online because it benefits them. Otherwise, party secretaries Baastad and Löfven had gone out and spoke plainly and, on the part of the party, had published a dementia on ARABISKA. That can be spread in the same channels.

So what did the social democrats do?

Send ... ..snail mail (A letter). To really maximize the effect of digital lies. Thank you. It's almost like they think they do not want the lie to be stopped. Right?

At the same time, the liars like a virus attach to one Arab-speaking group after another. Only the latest search on Facebook gave these additional distributions, and I have certainly not captured everything because only public statuses, those who paste the text into their private fields and do not have public status when they are not.

I wasn't even aware that there was such a thing as an Arabic wing of the SSU, to be honest...

Foltest · Aug 29, 2018

SSU is full of tards. Of course they have an arabic wing. They want those sweet sweet migrants vote. That is why they got so many into Sweden.

Smaug's Smokey Hole · Aug 29, 2018

Foltest said:
I wonder how S thought that they could get away with this shit in this day and age? With Twitter and other social media, people will find stuff like this out. Another reason why S is a shit party.

A lot of shit has passed unnoticed because it was spread in Arabic and in Arabic circles on the internet(Facebook and Twitter being the two big ones). When people started digging into that and figuring out who's who it looked pretty scary. Lots of calls for violence by outright lies and propaganda, one such lie is saying that x amount of muslim women are attacked and beaten in the streets everyday and that for every sister the swedes touch they will kill ten of the Swedes women. Shit like that. It was so transparently bullshit, one picture that was passed around as proof was a "this happened yesterday in Stockholm" picture of a woman that was shot years ago in Syria or something, I don't remember exactly but a quick reverse image search told a very different story.

Taqiya is alive and well even though they more often get caught. Some community figures are openly saying that homos and jews shall be slaughtered in the street in Arabic but preach PRIDE values, equal values and tolerance in Swedish. When they started to be confronted with their conflicting values the excuses were great, some just denied it even though the posts were under their name or they said it on camera in front of a crowd and received tax-payer grants to hold the event, some claim there's a nuance to Arabic that we can't ever understand. Some even started to lament the restrictions of free speech while others tried to shift the blame and say that they wouldn't have said it if they knew the media would find out and if only the media had given them a heads up the story would be different.

The last one was part of an episode of Uppdrag Granskning("Mission: Audit / investigate") where they sent muslim women with a hidden microphone/camera to different mosques to ask for marital advice. The story was that their husband was beating and raping them, they didn't like it, and as they understood it that's illegal in Sweden, so should they go to the police?
A day or so after that the journalists went to the mosques with the tapes and the audio. On a positive note, about half of the mosques had done the right thing, saying that it's not ok for a man to abuse his wife and it should be reported to the police and they had their blessing, including the infamous cellar mosque in Rinkeby.

not william stenchever · Aug 30, 2018

Is Taqiya a unique concept among the major religions of the world? Providing moral excuses for usurping other societies from the inside, while also promising a martyr's paradise to those who give their lives to spread their religion by the sword... all I can say is that it's a good thing that intellectually most of them are stuck in the dark ages

Furina · Aug 30, 2018

not william stenchever said:
Is Taqiya a unique concept among the major religions of the world? Providing moral excuses for usurping other societies from the inside, while also promising a martyr's paradise to those who give their lives to spread their religion by the sword... all I can say is that it's a good thing that intellectually most of them are stuck in the dark ages

I think Judaism has an equivalent, allowing certain, usually prohibited, activities to be allowed during war time or times of struggle. For instance, if you're a Jew in a non-Jewish land, your primary responsibility to look after other Jews, if that means lying or dishonestly dealing with non-Jews, then so be it. This is why there was so much anti-semitism in Europe throughout history. Jews tend to do well when everyone else is doing poorly, and they keep that within their community.

I don't think Christianity has an allowance for that because Jesus was really big on the whole "don't lie" thing. As for other major religions, I don't know any of them well enough to say.

Smaug's Smokey Hole · Aug 30, 2018

Furina said:
I think Judaism has an equivalent, allowing certain, usually prohibited, activities to be allowed during war time or times of struggle. For instance, if you're a Jew in a non-Jewish land, your primary responsibility to look after other Jews, if that means lying or dishonestly dealing with non-Jews, then so be it. This is why there was so much anti-semitism in Europe throughout history. Jews tend to do well when everyone else is doing poorly, and they keep that within their community.

I don't think Christianity has an allowance for that because Jesus was really big on the whole "don't lie" thing. As for other major religions, I don't know any of them well enough to say.

The Quran is pretty much an OC(Do Not Steal) of judaism with the addition of a Mary-Sue. Taqiya is used, and this is just tinfoil hat speculation, to gain a foothold and further the Islamic influence. Looking at the middle-east you'll see that a common conqueror tactic is to move in and displace a population and fill it up with their own people.

Laws that can be subverted in Islam, and presumably Judaism, is that eating Halal/Kosher isn't required if there is no Halal/Kosher to be had, even pork is permitted if that is all there is to eat. Theoretically outlawing Halal slaughter(instead of making it mandatory as some suggest) would benefit everyone because the muslims can then eat everything or else they die or have to become vegetarians/vegans(that just won't happen for some reason).

Adolf Von Merkel · Aug 30, 2018

Furina said:
I think Judaism has an equivalent, allowing certain, usually prohibited, activities to be allowed during war time or times of struggle. For instance, if you're a Jew in a non-Jewish land, your primary responsibility to look after other Jews, if that means lying or dishonestly dealing with non-Jews, then so be it. This is why there was so much anti-semitism in Europe throughout history. Jews tend to do well when everyone else is doing poorly, and they keep that within their community.

I don't think Christianity has an allowance for that because Jesus was really big on the whole "don't lie" thing. As for other major religions, I don't know any of them well enough to say.

Crypto-Christianity exist.
In 17-century's japan, Christian hide their religion because they would kills them.And currently we have cryptoarmenian in turkey .

not william stenchever · Aug 30, 2018

With Shongunate Japan I think that crypto-christians were tolerated in the same way that "Dutch learning" (i.e importing and translating Dutch books) was. As long as you follow the rules and stay within bounds nobody earns an execution

Smaug's Smokey Hole · Aug 30, 2018

Now the bot problem has raised it ugly heads, more people supposedly support a party on twitter and it doesn't mesh with the opinion polls. Instead they get fooled by bots.

AFS = Alternative for Sweden, a small group

C = The Centre party, tries to get that they care about farmers.

KD = Christian Democrats, tries to lure young blood into the pack.

M = Wears suits and talks about economy, no one could instruct a police sketch artist to describe their leader, he's just so forgettable.

MED: Probably the democrats,but that's just speculation.

MP: Dumb people thinking about dumb shit the people would have to do for the environment. Won't ever do it themselves do.

S: They are what they are because they decide who they are. had some god idea in the past and instead of keeper to what they should do they decided to think for themselves... That's bad new. They're currently busy with re-creating the american healthcare syste. Don't tell anyone though.

V is kinda nutt, some good people there but the good ones won't be in a larger position of power.

SD: Bullshit

Others: bleh

What I can suspect from other polls is that SD will get a vote lower than expected because people don't go out voting. And maybe it's because of that our "good" electronic system were struck down.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/...er-svar-fran-akesson--om-botar-som-hjalper-sd

not william stenchever said:
With Shongunate Japan I think that crypto-christians were tolerated in the same way that "Dutch learning" (i.e importing and translating Dutch books) was. As long as you follow the rules and stay within bounds nobody earns an execution

Silence is a good movie about Christianity in Japan based on a book written by a Japanese author, the first hour can be tough but paying attention is important.. Shogun is also pretty neat as well.

Foltest · Aug 30, 2018

MED is medborgerlig samling ( Citizen gathering or something like that).

Furina · Aug 31, 2018

Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
Now the bot problem has raised it ugly heads, more people supposedly support a party on twitter and it doesn't mesh with the opinion polls. Instead they get fooled by bots.

AFS = Alternative for Sweden, a small group

C = The Centre party, tries to get that they care about farmers.

KD = Christian Democrats, tries to lure young blood into the pack.

M = Wears suits and talks about economy, no one could instruct a police sketch artist to describe their leader, he's just so forgettable.

MED: Probably the democrats,but that's just speculation.

MP: Dumb people thinking about dumb shit the people would have to do for the environment. Won't ever do it themselves do.

S: They are what they are because they decide who they are. had some god idea in the past and instead of keeper to what they should do they decided to think for themselves... That's bad new. They're currently busy with re-creating the american healthcare syste. Don't tell anyone though.

V is kinda nutt, some good people there but the good ones won't be in a larger position of power.

SD: Bullshit

Others: bleh

What I can suspect from other polls is that SD will get a vote lower than expected because people don't go out voting. And maybe it's because of that our "good" electronic system were struck down.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/...er-svar-fran-akesson--om-botar-som-hjalper-sd

Silence is a good movie about Christianity in Japan based on a book written by a Japanese author, the first hour can be tough but paying attention is important.. Shogun is also pretty neat as well.

For those who can't read Swedish, the red bar represents bot support while green shows actual support. The bigger the difference, the more suspicious.

Silence of the Troons · Aug 31, 2018

A new celebrity petition against SD/racism/whatever has been launched! This time by no one other than Kjell "Kinesisk skvallerkärring" Bergqvist:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=533322427119919&id=100013264982667&__tn__=K-R

RING OUT, WILD BELLS !!!
#anythingbutSD
We stand up for
DIVERSITY ALL HUMAN'S EQUAL VALUE
And not least because we want to protect the most precious thing we have: DEMOCRACY
Therefore, we stand for:
ANYTHING, ANYTHING BUT SD!
[bunch of celebrity names]
#anythingbutSD
SPREAD THE WORD

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JOIN US

How do you want history to remember you?
As a person who stood up for democracy and all human's equal worth, or as a person who just stood by and watch?
Signed Karin Bergqvist (Kjell Bergqvist's wife)

When will celebrities realize that most people aren't interested in their stupid petitions?

Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth · Aug 31, 2018

Honest question, How do you tell the Sweden Democrats and the Social Democrats apart in passing if they share the same initials?

Silence of the Troons · Aug 31, 2018

The 8 of Spades said:
Honest question, How do you tell the Sweden Democrats and the Social Democrats apart in passing if they share the same initials?

It's pretty easy. We use the letter "S" when referring to the Social Democrats and SD when referring to the Sweden Democrats (compounds never consist of more than one part in Swedish – for example, the Social Democrats are called Socialdemokraterna, not Social demokraterna – which is most likely the reason why the abbreviation "S" came first and not SD)

Smaug's Smokey Hole · Sep 1, 2018

ATaxingWoman said:
It's pretty easy. We use the letter "S" when referring to the Social Democrats and SD when referring to the Sweden Democrats (compounds never consist of more than one part in Swedish – for example, the Social Democrats are called Socialdemokraterna, not Social demokraterna – which is most likely the reason why the abbreviation "S" came first and not SD)

And they were SAP in the beginning, later shortened to S, like how VPK(roughly translated to "The Left Party Communists") became V when the soviet union went under in 1990. Keeping it familiar might make it easier to retain old voters?

Don't hear much about KPML(R) these days("Communist Party Marxism-Leninism(Revolutionaries"), that was always a pretty memorable abbreviation/designation. All the old racist groupings from the 90's seems to have gone away as well, like Bevara Sverige Svenskt("Keep Sweden Swedish") and Vi Som Byggde Sverige("Those that built Sweden" - seemed like old laborers and construction dudes, they appeared to mostly put up posters/stickers and send opinion pieces to the local newspapers).

Now they're all retarded and have bad names. Svenskarna Parti("The Swedes Party"), the biggest of the bads, got 4,189 votes out of the total 6,290,016 votes that were cast. They're the ones we should be afraid of because they're about to take over the country through armed revolution or start waves of terror attacks.

(I'm looking at the results from the last election)
The Animal Owners Party got 3 votes, I wonder what they're all about.

Oh, it's pitbulls.

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