💰 Grifter StoneToss (allegedly, formerly Red Panels)

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Due to the structure of the comic itself, the entire rant at the end ends up like it's parodying the type of person who would make it.

That's exactly it, it literally makes no sense to paste in a logical argument, or an attempt at one, at the end, because the format itself thwarts dumb attempts like this. To parody ST comics, you'd actually have to understand them and these people don't. The medium here is definitely the message and you can't just crudely inject your own dumb message into it and call it a parody.
 
AntifaStonetoss is the perfect example of why the Left can't meme. You can clearly see the argument they want to make, it's written clearly, but the setup is so simple that it literally makes no sense in the context. Due to the structure of the comic itself, the entire rant at the end ends up like it's parodying the type of person who would make it.
The message is literally "here are a bunch of easy things you need ID for which everyone has no problem with, and in this one very important case it makes no sense to demand less of people." Yes, Antifa, we agree ID laws make it harder for people to vote. It makes it harder for illegal immigrants to vote. That's the point. Black people have drivers licenses, you're more likely to find a black person with a drivers license than a high school diploma. These laws keep down the people they are supposed to.
"Did you know that anti-shoplifting laws make it difficult for low income people to eat?" Wow thanks Perry Mason we never thought of it like that before.
Yeah, comics are a visual medium, and the message is usually so ingrained in the art that if you try to just edit the speech bubbles to change the meaning without changing the rest of the visuals, you have to spend 5 paragraphs explaining the actual moral that you're going for, because the artwork conveys the opposite. There are funny Stonetoss edits, but they almost always edit the art too.

Plus, they probably think their readers are stupid and have to be explained things as clearly as possible, or they won't get it.
 
Plus, they probably think their readers are stupid and have to be explained things as clearly as possible, or they won't get it.

And that's so painfully obviously what these "parodies" are trying to do. "Hey these people are dumb cause they're nawtsees and they just mindlessly buy anything in this format so let's just paste in our own message and then they'll believe us too!"
 
That's exactly it, it literally makes no sense to paste in a logical argument, or an attempt at one, at the end, because the format itself thwarts dumb attempts like this. To parody ST comics, you'd actually have to understand them and these people don't. The medium here is definitely the message and you can't just crudely inject your own dumb message into it and call it a parody.

Why would they need to parody Stonetoss when they can make their OWN popular comics, like uh...

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See? Just as clever and funny! The only constructive edit I could make is I wish the white dude in the polo had "Bad Guy" written on his shirt.
 
I fucking hate that guy's artstyle. Even the art itself reeks of smugness.

He's responsible for this meme which does him no favors either.

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Ironically it displays exactly the smugness it seeks to parody. This guy is literally a self-parody. I don't know him outside of this meme, maybe his others are better, but this unintentional self-parody doesn't give me much hope.
 
Why would they need to parody Stonetoss when they can make their OWN popular comics, like uh...

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See? Just as clever and funny! The only constructive edit I could make is I wish the white dude in the polo had "Bad Guy" written on his shirt.
I think this is as clear as they can be. They underlined the funny part of the dialogue.
 
Somebody in her group yelled a slur other than all lives matter according to the article, which started the altercation where they shot at each other.

They argued with another group after one of the people Whitaker was with used a racial slur, her bereaved fiancé, Jose Ramirez, told WXIN.
A racially charged confrontation ensued with the other group, during which the suspect’s group shouted, “Black Lives Matter,” and someone in Whitaker’s group — possibly her — said, “all lives matter,” Ramirez said.

Guns were whipped out, and both sides, seeing that all were armed, backed off, he said.
“It was squashed, and they went up the hill and left, we thought, but they were sitting on St. Clair waiting for us to come under the bridge, and that’s when she got shot,” Ramirez told WXIN.

He fired off a shot in return, but didn’t hit anyone, he said.
“I was actually holding her when it happened,” Ramirez told WTHR-TV. “She just fell. I turned around, and I opened fire too. But that’s just a reaction.”
Full context. This woman was with her very Hispanic sounding fiance (for when the inevitable "muh white supremacists" card gets pulled) and some other people, they got into an argument with some BLM people, guns were drawn, and everyone backed off.

Then, later people from the BLM group jumped them in an ambush and shot and killed her. So it was premeditated. The fiance shot back after they killed the woman he was going to marry in cold blood. When the guns were drawn the first time these cowards backed off, then tried to get the jump on the other group and shoot them while they weren't prepared. This was 100% murder, not a shootout that happened spur-of-the-moment like you're trying to make it sound like.

Now do I need to explain to you that someone calling you a mean name doesn't entitle you to follow them home and murder them and anyone they happen to be travelling with, retard?

IDK why, but this face amuses me.
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He looks like he's checking out the ass of the guy in front of him, while the guy in front of him looks like he's getting ready to grope the woman announcing the healthcare bill.
 
Full context. This woman was with her very Hispanic sounding fiance (for when the inevitable "muh white supremacists" card gets pulled) and some other people, they got into an argument with some BLM people, guns were drawn, and everyone backed off.

Then, later people from the BLM group jumped them in an ambush and shot and killed her. So it was premeditated. The fiance shot back after they killed the woman he was going to marry in cold blood. When the guns were drawn the first time these cowards backed off, then tried to get the jump on the other group and shoot them while they weren't prepared. This was 100% murder, not a shootout that happened spur-of-the-moment like you're trying to make it sound like.

Now do I need to explain to you that someone calling you a mean name doesn't entitle you to follow them home and murder them and anyone they happen to be travelling with, retard?


He looks like he's checking out the ass of the guy in front of him, while the guy in front of him looks like he's getting ready to grope the woman announcing the healthcare bill.

And notice how even the article posted tries to bury that lead. Here's the story: a pack of niggers found a white woman who said "all lives matter" so they tracked her down and executed her in cold blood. There's your headline. But no, we get to hem and haw about "well apparently some words were exchanged with a group of protestors, and both sides were in the wrong let us make that perfectly clear and if anyone was an instigator it was her, and then at some later point the groups met up again and somehow this woman ended up dead." Imagine being the person who tries to run interference to defend this shit.
 
Why would they need to parody Stonetoss when they can make their OWN popular comics, like uh...

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See? Just as clever and funny! The only constructive edit I could make is I wish the white dude in the polo had "Bad Guy" written on his shirt.
You know this shitty comic was created by an insanely privilaged individual who never had to interact in any way with a government agency. Free healthcare only means you'll have a single shitty choice rather than multiple somewhat-less-shitty choices that you can choose from and bring to court at the worst cases (and will only increase the differences in quality of healthcare rich people will get).

Stonetoss usually laughs at reality by showing how insane it is without any need to complex metaphors, trying to reverse it by simply explaining why the insane thing is totally justifiable just proves his point.
 
What, so just cap ‘em because they were being a retard?
Words are violence, therefore shooting someone over words is an appropriate use of self-defensive force. Black folx process grief differently than soulless white subhumans, and sometimes healthy black grief involves setting off firearms in self-defence.
 
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Why would they need to parody Stonetoss when they can make their OWN popular comics, like uh...

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See? Just as clever and funny! The only constructive edit I could make is I wish the white dude in the polo had "Bad Guy" written on his shirt.

I don't get this erm.. "joke"? aside from the strawman, what's wrong with wanting to pay for something?
 
It's just the boilerplate excuse. Some will believe the boilerplate, but the people who invented it didn't care. They just didn't want to lose the votes, whether legal or not.


I don't know we got pretty close to them admitting they think minorities are subhuman with the whole, "Low Information Voter" debacle after bernie lost. Then again as a black man I had to go through three obstacle courses and recite the constitution backwards from memory to get my drivers license which cost me a whopping nothing. Just getting a state I.D. is free in most states and just requires you to spend a day at the DMV.
 
and while I agree with the general concept that ID laws are entirely deliberately an attempt to complicate the election process to favor Republicans (they statistically do this), this is not the medium to deliver that message.
Nah, that's horseshit. It might be technically true in some limited sense, but actual extent is important here. How many people don't have any form of ID? It can't be much (as the cartoon aptly demonstrates, you need ID for all sorts of mundane transactions). And there's no racial or political basis for lack of ID being a factor, unless you invoke the "disparate impact" principle, which is in and of itself utter horseshit. World-wide, the standard is having ID to vote. This idea that it's somehow an attack on democracy to require people to actually identify themselves to vote is just lunacy. The meme of "but there's almost no voter fraud" is likewise horseshit, because precisely due to these policies, it's all but impossible to demonstrate.
 
I don't get the second cartoon, Hitler kneeling before some black doctor?
This was made during the time a few months ago where nurses were being praised as superheroes by Reddit. Hitler kneeling and showing his coat for the black doctor to hold before he operates, I guess is supposed to be how much of a 'superhero' he is.

Oh and on the far right is a reference to that meme about the Confederate soldier being married with Anne Frank. Anne Frank is also the person on the bed.

I'm surprised Hedgewik didn't give Mosley grey skin and vampire teeth though.
 
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Plus, they probably think their readers are stupid and have to be explained things as clearly as possible, or they won't get it.
I think what you're saying is, antifastonetoss really knows their audience well.

Nah, that's horseshit. It might be technically true in some limited sense, but actual extent is important here. How many people don't have any form of ID? It can't be much (as the cartoon aptly demonstrates, you need ID for all sorts of mundane transactions). And there's no racial or political basis for lack of ID being a factor, unless you invoke the "disparate impact" principle, which is in and of itself utter horseshit. World-wide, the standard is having ID to vote. This idea that it's somehow an attack on democracy to require people to actually identify themselves to vote is just lunacy. The meme of "but there's almost no voter fraud" is likewise horseshit, because precisely due to these policies, it's all but impossible to demonstrate.

Let's not forget that in the path to 2016 election, Obama assured illegal immigrants that they wouldn't be asked for ID and didn't risk deportation if they voted. There was an interview where he said that.

So the back and forth between republicans and democrats exist, but at that point you have to sit back and tell me how republicans are the evil meanies for wanting a measure that prevents illegal immigrants from voting.
 
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I had to force myself to read it and while I agree with the general concept that ID laws are entirely deliberately an attempt to complicate the election process to favor Republicans (they statistically do this), this is not the medium to deliver that message.
Even if we take that for granted, is it always a bad thing? Why should people who won't put in more than the bare minimum effort to be able to vote get to play a role in dictating how everyone else in the country lives their lives? Sure, there are ways to do it that are designed to rig the system, but as long as reasonable accommodations are made to give everyone a fair opportunity, it's better for everyone that the people who care the least about voting and are willing to put the least effort into doing it don't. That everyone seems to be in agreement that these people are going to largely be Democrats says a lot about that party. There's nothing noble or good about herding a bunch of people into the voting booth who are going to vote for whoever their favorite pop star told them to because they don't really give a shit.
 
Even if we take that for granted, is it always a bad thing? Why should people who won't put in more than the bare minimum effort to be able to vote get to play a role in dictating how everyone else in the country lives their lives? Sure, there are ways to do it that are designed to rig the system, but as long as reasonable accommodations are made to give everyone a fair opportunity, it's better for everyone that the people who care the least about voting and are willing to put the least effort into doing it don't. That everyone seems to be in agreement that these people are going to largely be Democrats says a lot about that party. There's nothing noble or good about herding a bunch of people into the voting booth who are going to vote for whoever their favorite pop star told them to because they don't really give a shit.
If we have to have background checks and all this paperwork and all these regulations on our "shall not be infringed" right to bear arms then an ID to vote isn't controversial at all.
 
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