Steam Discussion Thread - Discussing Valve's online store (Possibly kept from collapsing into total decadence by a single fat guy)

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Fucker Carlson said:
I know this isn't the best indicator of Steam's future on its own, but has Gaben been seen anywhere since he made that video delivering Steam Decks a few years ago? I know he was supposed to appear at the oversight hearing, which I was looking forward to - because I wanted to see what Gaben's attitude towards Steam customers in 2025 would be like, and not because the hearing would have actually accomplished anything.
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The only recent-ish thing I could find was a general interview on a 1k sub channel. The only thing I would say relates is that he agrees that AI/LLM/ML is a powerful tool if you already know what you're doing, detrimental if you don't.

 
Pierre D'Olnique said:
It's shit, but there's nothing better on offer. Kinda like democracy.
Seriously, I bought D4 on Battlenet and refunded it when the download speed refused to go above 100 kilobytes per second. D4 is a 120 GB game. That would have been over FOURTEEN DAYS of fucking downloading, which coincidentally is their refund deadline (that or sub 2 hours of gameplay).
Steam downloaded the thing in under an hour.
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Don't forget all this BS they make you sign up to after buying their bloated shitty game
 
BiggestKai said:
a climbing game like Lorn's Lure getting the parkour tag
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I don't want to be a total fag (difficulty impossible) but I'm pretty sure Lorn's Lure has parkour tags for the faster segments and simulation courses. I haven't played them all but Simulation 4 literally has you doing CS Surfing movement (you can disagree if that particularly is parkour in function, but I still think the simulations as a whole would match what other parkour games offer). It's not to disagree with your entire post which is true, steam tags and recs often don't actually give the info you need, but I played the Lure and I dunno if parkour is a false flag. I consneed it's not primary for sure.

Considering steam is always trying to push itself forward in ways that lead to mixed results, an overhaul on tags would be nice. I find that the more niche a tag is, the better defined it is, but even my best example- Stealth, is burdened by games that might have a mechanic that is stealth but is clearly not the primary mechanic or gameplay. What should be obvious to the average user on what's similar to Arkham, Styx, or Metal Gear becomes muddied with, "but look! In this game you can hide!" I haven't looked at all the tags a game can have, but I wonder if the solve is to be like the music industry and have 500 subgenres for a particular kind of game. We already have umbrella "major" tags and "minor" sub tags, it shouldn't hurt to just add a ton and let the devs/users sort it out. It would probably lead to underpopulated tags, but surely that's preferable to looking at a tag and seeing infinity not the thing I was looking for.
 
Sparky Lurker said:
For me it was:
-The price hike of 2022/23 because of the currency conversion.
-Opening the floodgates to third-party launchers.
I would be more forgiving of the former if it just applied to new games, but no, in matter of a single day +5 year old games suddenly had a price increase of 200%, this was the catalyst that started making me shift to GOG.
The latter is egregious because they shifted their own policy on the matter for profit and Gaben simps started painting as a good thing.
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Currency conversion? Why does that matter?

Unless you are of course not an American, which makes you a second class citizen of the universe as is well-deserved anyway.
 
X Prime said:
Currency conversion? Why does that matter?

Unless you are of course not an American, which makes you a second class citizen of the universe as is well-deserved anyway.
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American video game industry can barely produce anything worthwhile nowadays, zero reason to act cocky on this topic.
 
X Prime said:
Currency conversion? Why does that matter?

Unless you are of course not an American, which makes you a second class citizen of the universe as is well-deserved anyway.
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Valve discontinued regional prices for games, because people were using VPNs to get games for cheaper by setting their VPN region to poorer countries like Argentina, which was still in the super inflation state at the time.
 
If steam turns gay we still have options on PC, consolefags are stuck with the company sto’
 
GeorgeFloydFentanylStash said:
As long as I can still play holiday events and private servers, I’m happy as a clam on that one. However i haven’t noticed much bot action during this years Halloween event like in years past.
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Things are still fine with TF2 and the bot situation did improve quite a lot. I just feel like that after the last comic finally came out, TF2 had the closest thing to a "The End" that it could have and some people had closure and moved on. But it still goes on despite everything.
 
Super Hans v2 said:
They do, but the Great Firewall is a fucking joke. If you want to bypass it and put in a small effort, you will.
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If I had to trade banning VPNs for kicking every chinese off steam and the rest of the internet,I’d do it in a heartbeat. I'm sick of them shitting up the web and review bombing games whenever they throw a hissy fit.
 
From the Steam Client Beta patch notes today:

> Suspicious or harassing 1 on 1 chat messages can now be reported directly in the chat window by right clicking the message or from the 'Suspicious Chat' warning. You can optionally block and/or unfriend the other user while submitting the report.
Source: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SteamClientBeta/announcements/detail/570395033724781400

Because being able to block people wasn't good enough. I'm sure this will never get abused in any way.
 
Fucker Carlson said:
From the Steam Client Beta patch notes today:

> Suspicious or harassing 1 on 1 chat messages can now be reported directly in the chat window by right clicking the message or from the 'Suspicious Chat' warning. You can optionally block and/or unfriend the other user while submitting the report.
Source: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SteamClientBeta/announcements/detail/570395033724781400

Because being able to block people wasn't good enough. I'm sure this will never get abused in any way.
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Usually suspecious accounts just contacting you out of the blue can be stopped by simply answering the question of "Do you play Dota2?" with "No, Im not a faggot."

They tend to stop replying after that.
 
The handsome tard said:
Usually suspecious accounts just contacting you out of the blue can be stopped by simply answering the question of "Do you play Dota2?" with "No, Im not a faggot."

They tend to stop replying after that.
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What I am concerned about is Valve getting mad and banning people because an adult said the word nigger or sent a meme to another adult, not unlike discord and plenty of other sites that let you message people.

Sender: "I consent!"
Recipient: "I consent!"
Platform: "I DON'T!"
 
Fucker Carlson said:
What I am concerned about is Valve getting mad and banning people because an adult said the word nigger or sent a meme to another adult, not unlike discord and plenty of other sites that let you message people.

Sender: "I consent!"
Recipient: "I consent!"
Platform: "I DON'T!"
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Imagine getting suspended or even banned because a scam account (possibly even stolen from some other user) reported you for saying a naughty word.

Sounds like Clown World, alright
 
The handsome tard said:
Usually suspecious accounts just contacting you out of the blue can be stopped by simply answering the question of "Do you play Dota2?" with "No, Im not a faggot."

They tend to stop replying after that.
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I just don't reply to anything unless it comes from someone I know. Saves me a lot of headaches. Can't be bothered by strangers on Steam if you never reply to them.
 
A reminder that anyone pointing the finger at Steam and complaining how they are a monopoly and that "something must be done" is a corporate faggot thats mad they arent the ones in charge of it. While I do agree that they are indeed a monopoly, they are ignoring a LOT of context because this really is a case where Steam came out ontop simply because they offer the better services, products AND treating the customers well while at it. The reason why Steam gets the meme "Does nothing. Still wins" basically sums it up, they just do the revolutionary act of NOT acting like a bunch of jackasses by having anti-consumer practices that every other online store and console is guilty of one way or the other*.

It may shock the corporate stooges but you can naturally come out ontop by simply being the best, no need to constantly boycott the competition when they do it to themselves. Also lets not pretend ultimately that another big difference, a telling one, is that Valve is privately owned so there aint a bunch of cargo cultists that have absolutely no idea what the average joe is like but will impose shit on them, whether they like it or not (often not).

At most Steam has a "lite" monopoly, one that is often extremely envied by those that salivate at the thought of having such money maker, only upset they arent the ones in charge of it. They'll try to make a manufactored controversy out of it tho, its a psyop.

*I wont act like Steam is innocent tho, especially in this year specifically but thats besides the point.
 
The handsome tard said:
At most Steam has a "lite" monopoly, one that is often extremely envied by those that salivate at the thought of having such money maker, only upset they arent the ones in charge of it. They'll try to make a manufactored controversy out of it tho, its a psyop.
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It's difficult for me to call Steam a monopoly, as while they have the advantage in size and sales, others can still create their own digital storefronts, and many already have. Steam has no means of obstructing the competition. At most, they are in the unique position to draw publishers to the platform with their large consumer base.

Two decades of expansion have simply made Steam so massive that it would take significant resources or time to make an equal competitor. So many game companies want the storefront success Valve achieved, but none of them are willing to court consumers into buying like Valve does.
 
The handsome tard said:
A reminder that anyone pointing the finger at Steam and complaining how they are a monopoly and that "something must be done" is a corporate faggot thats mad they arent the ones in charge of it.
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This, 100%. They are seething because Valve is a private company.
EA, Ubishit, Epic, etc. could have made an alternative to Steam but they can't because they don't understand Valve and Steam, and they have to do what their investors say (more micro-transactions, pozz, DEI, etc.).
After all these years, Timmy Tencent's platform continues to not allow user reviews and refuse to provide a forum where the customers can talk about the games they have bought there or give a feedback.
 
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>be game developer
>make proprietary storefront for your games
>get big by bribing consumers with free stuff
>become monopolistic through exclusivity deals and publishing costs that undercut the rest of the market
>offer terrible service that people only use because they don’t have a choice
>actual game development quality declines dramatically
>you’re now remembered primarily for being a stain on the gaming industry and a shell of your former self
>be Epic Games
>pic unrelated
 
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