Steam Discussion Thread - Discussing Valve's online store (Possibly kept from collapsing into total decadence by a single fat guy)

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The handsome tard

The handsome tard

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Normally there isnt much to discuss about Steam specifically but I think in 2025 that slowly seems to be changing as they keep finding themselves in more controversies than they ever did in previous years. I know many here are big fans of Steam (and so am I) but its necessary to call out their bad behavior when it comes because maybe here seem to be underestimating just how lucky we have been in the last 2 decades because we are in a rare situation where a monopoly hasnt devolved into a total shitshow (seriously, the only reason we get pissed at those like with Youtube is, ultimately, because they quickly develop anti-consumer practices while actively boycotting any possible competition. Otherwise Im sure we would be a-okay with them). But I feel like there had been an omnious change in the air with 2025 as it seems Steam is finally starting to fall into concerning patterns and decision making that Im sure needs no introduction...

Not to say this is a thread to discuss only bad things, anything Steam related goes.
 
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Steam’s been surprisingly stable for a monopoly, but lately some of their choices do feel like the start of a worrying shift. Still, I’m keeping a bit of cautious optimism. Gabe’s track record shows he usually knows when to step in, and I just hope that when he eventually steps down, whoever takes over keeps the same spirit that made Steam what it is.
 
I've had a long standing problem with Steam that turned out to be a problem with just about any video game database/store.
Recommendations and user tags are way too broad and it makes for godawful recommendations.
  • "Games like this" sections appear to consider at least one tag to consider a game similar to another.(if both games have the multiplayer tag then they're alike).
  • Tags are community driven which leads to certain games getting tags they shouldn't(a climbing game like Lorn's Lure getting the parkour tag or hundreds of roguelite deckbuilder trash shitting up the Turn Based Tactics/Strategy pages)
  • Certain tags are stupidly general which leads to completely ridiculous matches. The "female protagonist" tag has been on my shitlist for this reason.
Leading to the following being tagged as "games similar to Mirror's Edge".
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Also the page you're taken to if you click on a tag to look for new or upcoming games for a specific tag that page has an awful layout and you can filter for secondary tags but not filter out tags you want excluded(again turn based tatics and filtering out deckbuilders/card games).

Also also, not every developer has their own store page/filter(for some reason, I'm pretty sure it used to exist before each publisher got their own fancy garish looking page that has the same awful layout as the tags page). So if it's a smaller developer and you want to go and check what else this developer has made, ha ha fuck you here's the publisher page!

Clicking on the developer's name, because I know Cape Cosmic have an upcoming game
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leads to...
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And this page doesn't have Star Iliad, which I know is Cape Cosmic's upcoming game. So if I wanted to keep up with Cape Cosmic I'd have to go out of my way to actually know what they've made and not what Steam believes is the publisher that has vored the dev studio or hope that the dev team has a news page on the game I do know and have announcing about the game I may not know about.
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Finally, and to be fair I assume this may be the developers who are at fault for this and not Steam itself, even the developer pages are inconsistent. Take Endlessfluff Games, developers of Valdis Story.
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I guess they've done nothing for the past 5 years since Fae Tactics.
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Oh wait, I guess it's my fault for looking at EndlessFluff Games instead of just EndlessFluff... whoops.
 
Acknowledging Steam has faults, I’m not so annoyed at the interface/store as some are.

I’m noticing GOG over the last 2 years is slowly getting more and more of the bigger titles however; for example Capcom seem to be slowly releasing early RE games on the store and I got that Clair Obscur game over the weekend on a decent discount in their Autumn sale.

GOG will never replace Stream. But if I can get a title I am after and it is available on GOG, I will do so over Steam.
 
For me it was:
-The price hike of 2022/23 because of the currency conversion.
-Opening the floodgates to third-party launchers.
I would be more forgiving of the former if it just applied to new games, but no, in matter of a single day +5 year old games suddenly had a price increase of 200%, this was the catalyst that started making me shift to GOG.
The latter is egregious because they shifted their own policy on the matter for profit and Gaben simps started painting as a good thing.
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Idiot Doom Spiral said:
Acknowledging Steam has faults, I’m not so annoyed at the interface/store as some are.

I’m noticing GOG over the last 2 years is slowly getting more and more of the bigger titles however; for example Capcom seem to be slowly releasing early RE games on the store and I got that Clair Obscur game over the weekend on a decent discount in their Autumn sale.

GOG will never replace Stream. But if I can get a title I am after and it is available on GOG, I will do so over Steam.
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I stopped paying for GOG around two years ago when they allowed hentai/dating "games" to be on the store and even promoting it on the main page and refused to allow meme games. I can't see this any in other way than they wanting to promote degeneracy and censor certain political stuff. It's such a politically curated game client.

I will stick with Steam because at least they allowed Team SNEED to keep his stuff up while GOG denied the games.
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Idiot Doom Spiral said:
Acknowledging Steam has faults, I’m not so annoyed at the interface/store as some are.

I’m noticing GOG over the last 2 years is slowly getting more and more of the bigger titles however; for example Capcom seem to be slowly releasing early RE games on the store and I got that Clair Obscur game over the weekend on a decent discount in their Autumn sale.

GOG will never replace Stream. But if I can get a title I am after and it is available on GOG, I will do so over Steam.
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Honestly I just use steam to play multiplayer games I cant pirate and then cheap singleplayer games that I like to support the devs. I wish they made it so that you cant have third party launchers and accounts. FFS I dont want to use the rockstar launcher and have to make an account for this shit.
 
i wish more games released on gog instead of steam since it is by definition spyware. at this point i just pirate most of my games or play them through steam on my old windows pc if it's online only. but they may have to change since i'll be putting my game on steam soon so i'll need to put it on my linux box for testing. gabe is spiritually jewish but he also hasn't made the same fuckups that microsoft did with GFWL so this is probably the least worst future we could've gotten.
 
i am having a personal vendetta with steam, because they kept resetting my profile description and meme profile picture, and locking me from it because "we dont think its fitting." while they didnt do shit about a profile with a swastika as a pfp.

i was seriously considering spending 500€ for level 200 to customize my profile but i genuinely think the support team are just niggerloving cucks and i hope every single one of them gets fucking burned alive.

i most stick to keyshops and bundles if i can avoid buying from steam itself.

EDIT: i am glad they crashed the CS 2 market with trade-upping into knives and gloves.
 
Never treat a company like a friend no matter how much you like it. Steam made it big for the simple fact it was a platform for games while every other company was making a platform for their games.
Ever since steam green light was so hated that they said fuck it and opened the flood gates steam had lost almost all of it browse-ability. Browsing the catalog was a great way to find new stuff but now you have to dig though mountains of futa ai porn and babies first game maker project to find maybe one good looking game. The only way to use steam is to hear about a game and just look it up, makes you genuinely feel sorry for the little guys making good shit but can't yell past the horde of scammers. It's a problem you really can't put back into the bottle since any restriction will be seen as political motivated censorship, just look at what happened with gamergate 33 1/3 when they banned a couple of rape hentai games.
Steam has 2 decades of work put into it and has remained stable enough to gain many people's trust. While GoG has great perks its clearly a niche that has no chance to compete and epic has shown that all the fortnite and unreal money in the world can't create a good storefront. GoG has full file downloads and while epic has its billions from unreal I don't really trust them enough to not "cut the waste" that is the Epic games store some day. Valve is clearly not the beloved studio that people loved from the 90s-00s, but they still don't come off as greedy enough to royally fuck over all their customers(:optimistic:). The fact it's a private company at least means shareholders aren't going to force them into doing everything possible to make line go up.
Still always hope for the best, prepare for the worst, maybe Gabe is literally the only person with a soul there and the second he dies the entire company get sold to ten cent and you have to gacha roll to get your games.
 
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I’m a fan of Steam. Had a Steam account for almost 21 years since I was forced to sign up for one when I bought Half-Life 2. And I have a Steamdeck that I absolutely love and do most of my gaming. Do have some worries that Steam will turn into some anti-consumer service once Gabe and the rest leave. But I really only buy games on discount or from key sites that have a better discount.
 
I mostly don't have any issues with Steam or Valve. They've been good stewards of the PC Gaming and the PC industry as a whole.
HOWEVER, what @Cat tit bingo said is completely correct. You should always treat companies with scrutiny.

There is one worrying trend that I've been informed of recently.
Apparently, their review team has been causing trouble for anime-style games. They've been refusing to approve titles like "Inner Truth", "AUTOMATION WEST", "Sweet Hamster Days" and (most notably), Inti Creates's "Majogami". Apparently they even attempted to decline a big Spike-Chunsoft game before the publisher leaned on them.
Now, I'm not an anime guy ...but this is always how the bullshit starts. They start picking on a small group to set the precedent before bringing out the big guns.
There's rumors that it's literally just one person with a grudge but this is all hearsay.
 
steam workshop being another drm tool is evil, it makes many mods exclusive to steam versions of the games.
there is no button like "download zip" and it provides nothing for mod preservation, so if some genius modder thinks "fuck it" and removes everything, you can only hope that the mod has not been yet wiped from disk by steam client or it has been reuploaded on some sus russian mod website.
with all mods being limited to steam workshop, gog ownership of games like project zomboid is a joke. rimworld players have made some convoluted ways to download mods through steamcmd which still doesn't make life easier, especially since one-click workshop downloader websites got either shut down or remade into generic steamcmd guides.

gog is not very good at providing full games, because some of them have multiplayer (including LAN play) removed so that multiplayer part is fully missing, or have steamworks replaced with gog galaxy api which still requires gog account and makes the "no drm" thing a bit pointless, even goldberg steam emulator is more useful than that as it can make lan multiplayer playable without online connection.
 
Coolio55 said:
There's rumors that it's literally just one person with a grudge but this is all hearsay.
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I heard the same thing about this as well. Apparently it's some dangerhair. As for Steam itself, what do you use notes for? I mainly use it to make lists for fixes and mods to install.
 
you hear a lot that 80% of steam games never turn a profit but when you cut out the obvious shovelware/asset flips/baby's first game that number drops way lower. in general as long as your game looks good, is fun to play and you do some marketing (social media, contact streamers/youtubers, participate in festivals) your game will do well.
here's a fun site to look through to see the sheer amount of shovelware that's dropped on steam daily
 
Coolio55 said:
I mostly don't have any issues with Steam or Valve. They've been good stewards of the PC Gaming and the PC industry as a whole.
HOWEVER, what @Cat tit bingo said is completely correct. You should always treat companies with scrutiny.

There is one worrying trend that I've been informed of recently.
Apparently, their review team has been causing trouble for anime-style games. They've been refusing to approve titles like "Inner Truth", "AUTOMATION WEST", "Sweet Hamster Days" and (most notably), Inti Creates's "Majogami". Apparently they even attempted to decline a big Spike-Chunsoft game before the publisher leaned on them.
Now, I'm not an anime guy ...but this is always how the bullshit starts. They start picking on a small group to set the precedent before bringing out the big guns.
There's rumors that it's literally just one person with a grudge but this is all hearsay.
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If the price of freedom is gooner games staying on, its a small price to pay. I'd much rather live alongside them than with moralistic petty censorship prone busy buddies who will never be satisfied.

Besides, these games have the right to exist as long they dont tap into illegal territory, they can be disliked for sure but their right to exist should be upheld even by those that dont like them.

Rights must be protected, no exception.
 
The handsome tard said:
If the price of freedom is gooner games staying on, its a small price to pay. I'd much rather live alongside them than with moralistic petty censorship prone busy buddies who will never be satisfied.

Besides, these games have the right to exist as long they dont tap into illegal territory, they can be disliked for sure but their right to exist should be upheld even by those that dont like them.

Rights must be protected, no exception.
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Well, games like that exists from a long time.
Anybody remembers Leisure Suit Larry? That's the best example of slapstick comedy mixed with softporn.
 
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