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The Mirror Universe alone wouldn't work as a series, you need to establish your characters in the "normal" universe first (that's something STD missed completely in the first season). Once you're used to the characters it becomes interesting to see a complete opposite version of them.
 
Ihavetinyweewee said:
If I could pick the premise for a Star Trek series: it would be the mirror universe....
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There is some potential in a mirror universe show, but you would absolutely need to use mirror versions of TNG and Voyager characters we haven't seen before. They would also have to deal with how DS9 fucked up the mirror universe, but they've already made comics and such that did that.
 
gobbogobb said:
What they could have done though is put a little more 'edge' in the show. I don't mean that in the current year meme sense. More like keep the tension between starfleet and the Maquis. Don't write episodes where Voyager is miraculously repaired in minutes. Maybe tension is a better word after all. Voyager had none.
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Exactly this, and what I don't get is how they didn't figure it out throughout the entire 7 years save like 2 episodes in the entire show. Voyager and DS9 were basically parallel shows, maybe 1 or 2 seasons they could've been forgiven for being stale, but there was a perfect example of how to innovate Trek airing at basically at the exact same time.
 
I've been thinking about that Borg cube with the blue lightning. You think this will be the show where they finally go with that exceptional theory that V'Ger created the Borg?
 
Ihavetinyweewee said:
If I could pick the premise for a Star Trek series: it would be the mirror universe....
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I was really hoping they'd do something with no hand-to-hand combat, no starship battles, just archaeology and the joy of discovery. You could have lots of mystery and intrigue, with practically zero violence. They could have went sci-fi instead of generic action.

Picard is doing his vineyard bs, sure, but also part-timing at university or some shit. There he works with archaeology related to his experiences, something that intrigued him that he felt compelled to dig deeper on. Over the course of the series the things that initially caught his eye develop into a beautiful sci-fi archaeology expedition, like the Hyperion novels or Revelation Space, mixed with Lovecraft's 'At the Mountains of Madness'. They could have hired a real sci-fi author and made it story-driven, instead of just another diversity checklist.

That has long been my dream sci-fi series setting.
 
Cloacan said:
I was really hoping they'd do something with no hand-to-hand combat, no starship battles, just archaeology and the joy of discovery. You could have lots of mystery and intrigue, with practically zero violence. They could have went sci-fi instead of generic action.

Picard is doing his vineyard bs, sure, but also part-timing at university or some shit. There he works with archaeology related to his experiences, something that intrigued him that he felt compelled to dig deeper on. Over the course of the series the things that initially caught his eye develop into a beautiful sci-fi archaeology expedition, like the Hyperion novels or Revelation Space, mixed with Lovecraft's 'At the Mountains of Madness'. They could have hired a real sci-fi author and made it story-driven, instead of just another diversity checklist.

That has long been my dream sci-fi series setting.
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So, 2001, essentially? Not a bad idea, but its to cerebral for the current set of fans....

I actually thought they were going to give Picard limited Q powers: Episodic morality plays.....

But, we're gonna get something a whole lot more shitter instead...
 
gobbogobb said:
If they ignore Enterprise showing the borg well before that time frame sure
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The implication was that the Borg sent out a communication which would take hundreds of years to reach the Delta Quadrant. Essentially them trying to create some kind of time loop. I hate time travel shit. I also hate the idea of V'Ger being the creator of the Borg as it makes basically no sense and totally undoes the ending of TMP so I really want that Enterprise episode to work in some ways but there are a bunch of holes they can weasel out of with it.

The Borg are gonna be V'Ger. I can guarentee it. Trying to use TMP to fellate Star Trek fans seems to be a thing now. I noticed a lot of TMP references in the trailers for Discovery.
 
I'm posting this at a red light so really quick. if you're going to go with that kind of hook for the board why do it with a Picard show why not bring Kirk back from the dead and have him deal with it
 
Red Letter Media had a horrifying prediction for Picard's "mystery girl":
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gobbogobb said:
I'm posting this at a red light so really quick. if you're going to go with that kind of hook for the board why do it with a Picard show why not bring Kirk back from the dead and have him deal with it
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Kirk and the Borg just don't go together. Besides, Star Trek Online and even Shatner's ridiculous tie-in novels have been yammering about this idea for years. The Borg are Picard's ultimate enemy, the V'Ger theory is a way to rope in the "more ceREEbral" fans who like TMP.
 
Nostalgia isn't enough to create a good show. Neither are good (or at least recognizable) actors. And as much as I liked it, I dont know if they can pull off the monster of the week theme the way the earlier series did. I think they should either pull an Advent Children and create a show specifically for Trek fans, with virtually no appeal to a larger audience, or do something new, like set in universe but without any of the old characters or references. I heard something about Tarintino directing a mature Trek Movie, and that would be great. Hell, some of the stories from STO were sort of ok, make that into a show. But then again Star trek has always been about selling that CBS all access, so what do I know.
 
Only fan films will cater to Trek fans, causals and higher functioning normies. Paramount/CBS desire those lowest common denominator potato shekels above all else.
 
Locomotive Derangement said:
Kirk and the Borg just don't go together. Besides, Star Trek Online and even Shatner's ridiculous tie-in novels have been yammering about this idea for years. The Borg are Picard's ultimate enemy, the V'Ger theory is a way to rope in the "more ceREEbral" fans who like TMP.
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I can buy that, but v'ger is a Kirk thing as much as Borg are a Picard thing.

If any of the shows start referencing storylines from the borderline fanfiction novels that's an instant no-go from me.
 
I could see why they wouldn't want to have the Maquis bickering with the rest of the crew past the first season, but what always bugged me was how they all just integrated into a by-the-books Starfleet crew. DS9 had Bajorans working alongside Starfleet, it seems like some of the Maquis would say "I'm fine with doing a job on Voyager and taking orders, but I'm never wearing that uniform or taking a field commission."
 
Not bickering but maybe a little tension based on "Maquis way" vs "federation way" in those sticky situations like with Red Foreman: time traveler Year of Hell
 
Titan Lithos said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KbXy0f0aCN0A lot more cameos than anticipated.

Also, it looks like Picard, or at least Star Fleet, is more buddy buddy with Romulans, as a lot of them look more Rommy. Also 5843 Days Without an Assimilation sign is just silly.
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Locomotive Derangement said:
To try and get back on topic, my dad was incapable of using the internet and he guessed right away that they were going to use B4 to ressurect Data. I dunno if that's a point for or against Star Trek: Picard yet, but that prediction is ten fucking years older than that show is.
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(I hate that i keep bringing STO yet again but since JJ happened it was the only product with the name Star Trek for a long time that tried even remotely to respect the source material despite having flaws)
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Accolade/Lore here is STO take on the post-Nemesis timeline up to 2409, i'd like to see people in this thread gave their opinion if this would have been better STP
 
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So whats gonna happen if the CBS/Viacom merger happens, are they just going to nuke all the Kelvin, Discovery, Picard stuff into oblivion? Anything to do with Bad Robot?

Or

Are they like, "yeah, that exists. But, its a seperate timeline/universe, just forget about it".....

Do they immediatly just do a generational followup to TNG/DS9/Voyager?
 
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