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The "Tyler is Voq" theory seems to be coming true which actually bugs me because I feel the show is going to absolutely fucking fail at explaining how Klingon medical technology was able to make him look human, make his body pass as human for medical exams (how the fuck do you cover up the various organs redundancies etc), and how they taught him English with all the stress from surgery.
I'm hoping this is a bit of a red herring and Tyler turns out to be who he thinks he is but they grafted part of Voq into his brain or something along those lines.

The more likely outcome will probably be Tyler/Voq dramatically choosing to live life as Tyler and everyone will keep quiet because the surgery and mind transfer is somehow so flawless he is indistinguishable from the original Tyler. Like all those times Harry Kim died and got replaced and everyone just pretended it didn't happen.
Why is the chick named Michael? Is it like a tranny/tumblr thing?
Pretty much.
 
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I'm hoping this is a bit of a red herring and Tyler turns out to be who he thinks he is but they grafted part of Voq into his brain or something along those lines.

The more likely outcome will probably be Tyler/Voq dramatically choosing to live life as Tyler and everyone will keep quiet because the surgery and mind transfer is somehow so flawless he is indistinguishable from the original Tyler. Like all those times Harry Kim died and got replaced and everyone just pretended it didn't happen.

Pretty much.
Nah, the red herring was that the “torture” scenes are, in fact, voluntary surgery.
He’s a Klingon because the writers think they’re so clever.
 
I'm hoping this is a bit of a red herring and Tyler turns out to be who he thinks he is but they grafted part of Voq into his brain or something along those lines.
I don't think I'd really be okay with any twist they pull. I just don't think the writers can pull it off.
My enjoyment of the twist is going to depend on solely how laughable it is.
I'm still really hoping this show gets its shit together eventually but honestly since they decided to go into a continuous story right from episode 1 instead of easing the viewer in like DS9 did (I'd bring up Enterprise but I still havent gotten through that and it's a rough watch) its going to be really hard for them to dig themselves out of the shithole they flung themselves in.
 
It was really necessary and such a stupid thing to include. Whose idea was that? Here's a prisoner with PTSD being brutally tortured and raped. Oh and here are some alien tits nobody wanted to see. Wtf.
 
I'm fully expecting a memory alpha Wikipedia page on breasts now that we saw klingon boobs like Wookiepedia
I was hoping you'd be wrong. I decided to just poke around L'Rell's discussion. Saw this:
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So I've been watching through all of Star Trek again. At least TOS, TNG, and DS9. Still slogging through Voyager and Enterprise.
TOS is better than I remember. TNG Season 2 is worse than I remember. DS9 Season 1 is much better than I remember.

On another note and off topic I started watching Babylon 5 finally after finding a torrent that works. It's really damn good. I wish I could buy all of Star Trek on BluRay/DVD but I have no BluRay player and all of that shit costs so much
 
So I've been watching through all of Star Trek again. At least TOS, TNG, and DS9. Still slogging through Voyager and Enterprise.
TOS is better than I remember. TNG Season 2 is worse than I remember. DS9 Season 1 is much better than I remember.

On another note and off topic I started watching Babylon 5 finally after finding a torrent that works. It's really damn good. I wish I could buy all of Star Trek on BluRay/DVD but I have no BluRay player and all of that shit costs so much
I really enjoyed early DS9 more on rewatches because I could better enjoy the DS9 gang doing Star Trek stuff instead of seeing them in a SciFi War Drama.
 
So this is still off topic kind of, but I've been continuing my watch of Babylon 5. I'm up to Season 4 and I've got to say I don't see why this is considered a masterpiece. It's a very fun show, but its also a very flawed show and the entire Shadow War shit was goofy as fucking hell to the point where I was taking it much less seriously than Deep Space Nine's Dominion War which is mainly started because the logic of Shapeshifters is "Well solids are fucking assholes so we'll conquer them hard so they won't be assholes to us". There's good stuff sprinkled in there, but between the silly as fuck CHAOS VS ORDERRRRR theme and the fact that the Shadows are literally incompetent at creating conflict despite that being their fucking purpose I just can't take the whole seriously.
I also don't entirely understand the "DS9 plagarized Babylon 5" shit because while I don't doubt that Paramount execs ripped the barebone basics from Babylon 5 (Space station, serialized story, war, etc) there is pretty much nothing else in common I can see aside from two characters having beyond similar names (Dukat/Dukhat, Leeta/Lyta) but they're entirely different characters.
The one thing I really admire about Babylon 5 compared to DS9 is how the writer of this show seemed to have his whole story planned out from the pilot which is super neat.

Also I'm really enjoying the show despite my bitching. If I remember someone in this thread recommended Babylon 5 to me so I'm really just wondering if I'm missing something.

I don't suppose anyone watched the Star Trek porno that's actually more faithful to the originals than the new stuff?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=14IY-PreyW0
This looks really fucking goofy, especially since they brought back Tasha "I have no character, but I must be on screen" Yar.
 
So I just watched "Threshold" for the first time, and I... I think I love it. It's so damn goofy.
 
Unpopular opinion time: DS9 > TNG. I think DS9 was better overall, while TNG had better singular episodes. Plus, the characters/plots weren't limited by Roddenberry's rules from the start, and Quark is bae.
 
If we ever get to that point, what modern, younger actor could be "Q" if we need one for the movies/etc? Barrowman?
 
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