Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[YankeeTrader]

I kind of warmed up to the idea of Vulcans acting superior. Leads to some pretty fun conflicts like in The Andorian Incident. My main issue with Vulcans is that sometimes seem kind of emotional. I'm not sure whether this is an acting issue or a directing one, but it's one that I just kind of noticed.
The writing isn't fantastic still. There was another alien pregnancy episode which was weird. Except Tucker got pregnant so that shit was even weirder. I actually managed to enjoy it though because the pay off of Klingons laughing their asses off at Tucker was so good. I also like that there's a few constant reminders that space exploration is a fairly new thing in the series. Like how Archer and his crew are wary of the transporter, the little questions they got from kids back on Earth, the way they kind of fumble through some diplomatic situations, it's just a few nice touches here and there. I'm actually enjoying it a lot because even if the writing isn't perfect, there's a sort of atmosphere that Enterprise manages to build that hits a sweet spot inside my tastes in sci-fi. Hopefully if there's any bad writing further on it'll be so-bad-it's-good kind of writing instead of fuck-why-am-I-watching-this shit.

The superiority of the Vulcans does come back to bite them in the ass along the way, so that's nice. And they do have a pretty decent arc through the shows run.

Weird? Sorry if this sound SJW-y, but that episode basically played date rape for laughs. It was more or less a gender-flipped version of "The Child", but handled even worse because at least that episode didn't make a joke out of the whole thing. This is the kind of not just bad, but horrifically insane writing that makes Enterprise one of the worst things ever given air time.

I saw it more as showing how really unprepared humanity was to be out there. Or at the very least naive about the galaxy at large. From Trip freaking out in the decompression chamber or whatever to randomly sticking his hands in some strange character actors alien bowl.

WHATS WITH ALL THE EPISODES WHERE PEOPLE DE-EVOLVE INTO BUGS, FROGS, OR APES.

Writers get lazy

Yeah, don't know how anyone can watch the first few episodes of Enterprise and think the show has any potential.

You kinda have to accidentally stumble onto a later ep that's really good in order to pick it up and go the whole run. I gave up early on and revisited it once I found a S4 ep that made me all tingly.

 

[GeorgeDaMoose]

Welp, saw The Motion Picture, Wrath of Khan, and Search for Spock.
The Motion Picture was like an episode that goes on for too long. It looked pretty great though for it's time (I think). I liked the inside of V'Ger and a lot of the sets were really, really nice. I think if it was just an episode it would have been good. As a movie, it was pretty boring towards the end.
Wrath of Khan was fucking fantastic. Man it felt pretty dark too. Those slugs that crawled in Chekov's and the Captain's ears were cool as hell. Spock's death was pretty great too and I liked Khan a lot.
Search for Spock was pretty comfy. I thought I'd hate the way Spock was revived, but I didn't mind it too much. It was just a lot of fun to watch.
Watching The Voyage Home right now and it's about fucking whales. It sounds like it should be bad, but so far I'm enjoying it.
I don't think any of the TOS films are really bad so far. Hopefully The Final Frontier has good parts in it.

 

[YankeeTrader]

Welp, saw The Motion Picture, Wrath of Khan, and Search for Spock.
The Motion Picture was like an episode that goes on for too long. It looked pretty great though for it's time (I think). I liked the inside of V'Ger and a lot of the sets were really, really nice. I think if it was just an episode it would have been good. As a movie, it was pretty boring towards the end.
Wrath of Khan was fucking fantastic. Man it felt pretty dark too. Those slugs that crawled in Chekov's and the Captain's ears were cool as hell. Spock's death was pretty great too and I liked Khan a lot.
Search for Spock was pretty comfy. I thought I'd hate the way Spock was revived, but I didn't mind it too much. It was just a lot of fun to watch.
Watching The Voyage Home right now and it's about fucking whales. It sounds like it should be bad, but so far I'm enjoying it.
I don't think any of the TOS films are really bad so far. Hopefully The Final Frontier has good parts in it.

I have no objections to your observations. Pretty much in line with my opinions. Final Frontier, is awful, but it does have a couple of good moments in it.

 

[TheImportantFart]

The Motion Picture was like an episode that goes on for too long. It looked pretty great though for it's time (I think). I liked the inside of V'Ger and a lot of the sets were really, really nice. I think if it was just an episode it would have been good. As a movie, it was pretty boring towards the end.

I thought the Motion Picture was a bad movie. Long, boring and ultimately devoid of any real insight. The thing I find utterly hilarious about that film is the fans like this who try to say it has a deep, artistic meaning and look down on anyone who says otherwise:

The reason this is hilarious is that the Motion Picture is the result of one of the most turbulent production cycles I've ever come across. This was the only film where Gene Roddenberry had any real creative control and he was angry that a lot of his story decisions got shitcanned so he began sabotaging other writers' drafts of the script. A lot of the actors found the process of making the film a nightmare. Leonard Nimoy recounted that in the scene where Spock goes back to Vulcan to purge his emotions, he basically turned around and said to the director: "What's the point of this? What does this have to do with the story?"

So if you want to read some deep meaning into the film, fine, but you're factually wrong. There never was any kind of deep meaning behind this film, just a long, nightmarish, production disaster and there's ample evidence from the people involved to back that up.

 

[YankeeTrader]

I thought the Motion Picture was a bad movie. Long, boring and ultimately devoid of any real insight. The thing I find utterly hilarious about that film is the fans like this who try to say it has a deep, artistic meaning and look down on anyone who says otherwise:

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The reason this is hilarious is that the Motion Picture is the result of one of the most turbulent production cycles I've ever come across. This was the only film where Gene Roddenberry had any real creative control and he was angry that a lot of his story decisions got shitcanned so he began sabotaging other writers' drafts of the script. A lot of the actors found the process of making the film a nightmare. Leonard Nimoy recounted that in the scene where Spock goes back to Vulcan to purge his emotions, he basically turned around and said to the director: "What's the point of this? What does this have to do with the story?"

So if you want to read some deep meaning into the film, fine, but you're factually wrong. There never was any kind of deep meaning behind this film, just a long, nightmarish, production disaster and there's ample evidence from the people involved to back that up.

I might view TMP through rose colored glasses, but for me at the age I was when it came out made it amazingly awesome. I didn't get any of the 'deeper' meanings, implied or otherwise till I was older and had actually lived a bit.

I know it had a rough production run, but I still think it managed to come together and work. It might not be as tight as other productions, but hey... it's no Into Darkness.

 

[GeorgeDaMoose]

So I just finished The Voyage Home and it's literally "Save the Whales: The Movie". I don't know how they did it, but it was fucking great. So much fun, probably the most fun Trek movie I've seen so far. The bants are absolutely out-of-this-world (kill me) and everything about the movie was just great. I think it's my favorite Trek movie so far right next to Undiscovered Country which I like a little bit more than Wrath of Khan because politics.
I've started watching The Final Frontier now and it's already weird as fuck. I have a feeling already this movie won't be too good, but man that opening scene looked pretty to me. I think I could dig it if it continues to look nice and be a good kind of weird.

I thought the Motion Picture was a bad movie. Long, boring and ultimately devoid of any real insight. The thing I find utterly hilarious about that film is the fans like this who try to say it has a deep, artistic meaning and look down on anyone who says otherwise:

I would say that a lot of the meaning probably got lost in production. You can see some ideas of sexuality and birth/rebirth in the film, but none of them ever evolve past ideas. Pretty much lacks meaning entirely. I think the ideas were cool though. It almost felt like it was trying to be a Trek version of A Space Odyssey, but it just ended up being a mess. I thought it was a fun mess from time to time though and while I can't say I enjoyed it, I don't think it was boring enough for me to consider it being bad.

 

[ICametoLurk]

I like Voyager a lot but I can only defend it so much honestly. I mostly don't try.

Telling people to watch Unexpected, Dear Doctor, A Night In Sickbay, These Are The Voyages is the best defense.

 

[GeorgeDaMoose]

WHAT IS THIS MOVIE?

 

[TheImportantFart]

WHAT IS THIS MOVIE?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=id=PK0i_dyx230;t=76

William Shatner's ego trip.

 

[GeorgeDaMoose]

William Shatner's ego trip.

I dunno about that, honestly it's just a mess. A different kind of mess than TMP. A much more fun mess. Like seriously, that scene where Kirk was climbing a mountain felt like an hour and I just couldn't stop laughing. Then there are generally good scenes like the campfire one and the one where McCoy confronts his fathers death and Spock confronts his father's disapproval (everybody apparently has daddy issues). But then there's moments like Uhura dancing in the desert, Scotty banging his head on a support like a fucking slapstick character, and the purple filter God planet.
Like honestly, the movie's story isn't exactly terrible on paper. Kirk and crew have confronted a god before (Apollo) or god-like entities. Picard, Sisko, and Janeway also deal with god-like entities (thought DS9 did a terrible job with it and it's too soon for me to tell how Q is going to be handled in VOY). Really just the quality of the writing gets in the way of TFF being anywhere near tolerable. I don't think Shatner was on too much of an ego trip to where he single-handedly ruined the movie (Honestly, Kirk is not the Gary Stu some people have made him out to be in this movie). Really seems like something else went wrong.
My final rating for the TOS movies is IV = VI > II > III > V > I
V isn't really as terrible as people make it out to be. The bad parts are really downright hilarious.

 

[XYZpdq]

I enjoy V. It's got some important stuff from TOS that hadn't gotten in the movies really, like climbing rocks, punching gods, and preaching about why human flaws are important.

 

[YankeeTrader]

WHAT IS THIS MOVIE?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=id=PK0i_dyx230;t=76

The franchise low.

William Shatner's ego trip.

I can hear it now... "Well Leonard got to direct. I want to now too!"

I dunno about that, honestly it's just a mess. A different kind of mess than TMP. A much more fun mess. Like seriously, that scene where Kirk was climbing a mountain felt like an hour and I just couldn't stop laughing. Then there are generally good scenes like the campfire one and the one where McCoy confronts his fathers death and Spock confronts his father's disapproval (everybody apparently has daddy issues). But then there's moments like Uhura dancing in the desert, Scotty banging his head on a support like a fucking slapstick character, and the purple filter God planet.
Like honestly, the movie's story isn't exactly terrible on paper. Kirk and crew have confronted a god before (Apollo) or god-like entities. Picard, Sisko, and Janeway also deal with god-like entities (thought DS9 did a terrible job with it and it's too soon for me to tell how Q is going to be handled in VOY). Really just the quality of the writing gets in the way of TFF being anywhere near tolerable. I don't think Shatner was on too much of an ego trip to where he single-handedly ruined the movie (Honestly, Kirk is not the Gary Stu some people have made him out to be in this movie). Really seems like something else went wrong.
My final rating for the TOS movies is IV = VI > II > III > V > I
V isn't really as terrible as people make it out to be. The bad parts are really downright hilarious.

"Excuse me... What does God need with a Starship?"

The campfire scenes.

Those are really my favorite bits of the movie. It does work on paper, and like TMP was a production nightmare. They ape a bit of Trek V directly in Galaxy Quest. Shatner's aborted end sequence with a rock monster.

Also Sha-ka-ree was a play on the actor's name they wanted to get to play Sybok, Sean Connery if I recall right.

And naturally Uhura's fan dance is the stuff of legend. Dark horrible, wish it hadn't happened legend, but still.

Here's something you might enjoy

I enjoy V. It's got some important stuff from TOS that hadn't gotten in the movies really, like climbing rocks, punching gods, and preaching about why human flaws are important.

^ what he said.

 

[projecteddrama]

You kinda have to accidentally stumble onto a later ep that's really good in order to pick it up and go the whole run. I gave up early on and revisited it once I found a S4 ep that made me all tingly.

Aren't all the good episodes in its last two seasons (largely the fourth season)? Or are there gems in its first two years of total shit?

The Motion Picture was like an episode that goes on for too long.

Yeah, it's actually a rip off of an episode of TOS called "The Changeling". And 2001, of course.

Telling people to watch Unexpected, Dear Doctor, A Night In Sickbay, These Are The Voyages is the best defense.

To be fair, Voyager has a ton of episodes nearly as bad.

I enjoy V. It's got some important stuff from TOS that hadn't gotten in the movies really, like climbing rocks, punching gods, and preaching about why human flaws are important.

V is a funny movie (albeit for the wrong reasons) that's enjoyable so I don't hate it like a lot of fans do.

 

[YankeeTrader]

Aren't all the good episodes in its last two seasons (largely the fourth season)? Or are there gems in its first two years of total shit?

If you take out the temporal cold war bullshit, 1-3 have some good moments. Watching a bunch of naive humans go off and explore the galaxy has it's charm. The Xindi arc in season 3 was a bit darker in tone, and season 4 was a fanboys checklist made real for the most part.

Just ignore the first two and last episodes of season 4. Not worth watching, trust. Actually, if you want serious WTF, watch the first two. The last one, is a big FU and they turn it into a damn extension of a TNG ep.

 

[projecteddrama]

The last one, is a big FU and they turn it into a damn extension of a TNG ep.

Ironically it's one of my favorite TNG episodes, The Pegasus that is, not "These Are The Voyages". What an absolutely bizarre episode to pick for such a plot, and of course what a bizarre idea in general, esp given Riker and Troi's obvious age. It was basically Berman and Braga trying to recapture the glory of 1994, when Star Trek (esp TNG) was a huge TV sensation. And I heard it was a way to try to one-up and spite Manny Coto, like they actually thought they had written Enterprise's answer to "All Good Things" and that it would go down as one of the greats, instead of as the final nail in the coffin of their era of Trek. Thank God they have nothing to do with Star Trek anymore.

Though originally it was going to be a Voyager extension, with Robert Picardo returning as the EMH, on Earth treating a crazy Scott Bakula who think's he's a time displaced Archer, and the whole plot would have been around the evidence of him being crazy or being truthful. Now that's a WTF idea...

Watching a bunch of naive humans go off and explore the galaxy has it's charm

I think it'd have way more charm if they had not portrayed them as dumbass white trash tourist types on whats practically a luxury liner. What do you recommend though from seasons 1-2?

I actually think seasons 3 and 4 are okay, and better than most give them credit for.

 

[YankeeTrader]

Ironically it's one of my favorite TNG episodes, The Pegasus that is, not "These Are The Voyages". What an absolutely bizarre episode to pick for such a plot, and of course what a bizarre idea in general, esp given Riker and Troi's obvious age. It was basically Berman and Braga trying to recapture the glory of 1994, when Star Trek (esp TNG) was a huge TV sensation. And I heard it was a way to try to one-up and spite Manny Coto, like they actually thought they had written Enterprise's answer to "All Good Things" and that it would go down as one of the greats, instead of as the final nail in the coffin of their era of Trek. Thank God they have nothing to do with Star Trek anymore.




Though originally it was going to be a Voyager extension, with Robert Picardo returning as the EMH, on Earth treating a crazy Scott Bakula who think's he's a time displaced Archer, and the whole plot would have been around the evidence of him being crazy or being truthful. Now that's a WTF idea...


I think it'd have way more charm if they had not portrayed them as dumbass white trash tourist types on whats practically a luxury liner. What do you recommend though from seasons 1-2?


I actually think seasons 3 and 4 are okay, and better than most give them credit for.

Yankee Traders official Enterprise must sees

Season 1

Broken Bow
Strange New World
The Andorian Incident
Fortunate Son
Sleeping Dogs
Shadows of P'Jem
Acquisition
Shockwave Part I

Season 2

Shockwave Part II
Carbon Creek
Minefield
Dead Stop
The Communicator
The Catwalk
Stigma
Horizon
Regeneration
First Flight
Bounty
The Expanse

Now that I look at it like that, I apparently enjoy those first two seasons a lot more that I thought.

The Pegasus is a great episode indeed. For all that final eps faults, Riker and Troi didn't look as old as I'd expect. They did a decent job recreating a few bits of the ol' 1701-D. Not enough though to carry the episodes faults. I mean c'mon, give the show their own damn ending. Don't make it part of some moral dilemma Riker was having. Seemed cheap and pretty insulting.

The Xindi arc grew on me with time, and 4 is one of my happy places.

 

[GeorgeDaMoose]

Star Trek Generations was god damned boring. I have nothing else to say about it, good or bad. I think I started to fall asleep a little when Picard threw a rock at the force field between him and Soran. Shit was more of a chore to watch than TPM honestly.
First Contact was disappointing. They kind of butchered Cochrane in my eyes, I liked the average joe dude he was in Metamorphosis. He was a good dude. Then he was a drunk, an asshole, and an obnoxious cunt. The Vulcans also just kind of landed on the Earth too and they threw a mini-party. I expected first Human-Vulcan contact to be a little bit more...important? I dunno, that shit just felt underwhelming. The Borg were pretty cool, the Borg Queen was not. It feels weird for a collective mind to have a Queen. The Queen seemed fairly intelligent too, she was able to recognize Picard as a threat when he tried to sacrifice himself for Data. So if she can recognize unclear threats, why can't she order the Borg to just wipe out any fucking life on board the Enterprise instead of having them ignore people until they start fucking with the Borg? Also kind of takes charm away from the Borg. More like a centralized intelligence than a collective. And hearing their leader spout Borg superiority and how close they are to perfection is really goofy when the next moment you see Borg move like wind-up toys. I guess in TNG it was more innocent coming from a collective intelligence instead of some cheap big bad.

Also did Data bang the Queen? Does the Queen have robo-genitals? If so, why does the Queen have robo-genitals? Why was the Queen separated from her body when she first appeared? Why did the Queen do patchwork job on Data's face instead of giving him all skin? Are the Borg not resistant to projectile weapons and that's why Picard was able to dump 100 rounds into two Borg without them adapting? If so, why doesn't Starfleet put some projectile weapons in Starships? Why was Picard so fucking angry during the entire movie? Why was the Defiant all the way near Earth? How was Data undamaged by all those bullets that black chick shot him with in the beginning of the movie when an arrow managed to penetrate him in one of the Q episodes? Why did Dr. Crusher go blonde? Why is Riker such a cutie? These are the real hard hitting questions.

 

[TheImportantFart]

Star Trek Generations was god damned boring. I have nothing else to say about it, good or bad. I think I started to fall asleep a little when Picard threw a rock at the force field between him and Soran. Shit was more of a chore to watch than TPM honestly.
First Contact was disappointing. They kind of butchered Cochrane in my eyes, I liked the average joe dude he was in Metamorphosis. He was a good dude. Then he was a drunk, an asshole, and an obnoxious cunt. The Vulcans also just kind of landed on the Earth too and they threw a mini-party. I expected first Human-Vulcan contact to be a little bit more...important? I dunno, that shit just felt underwhelming. The Borg were pretty cool, the Borg Queen was not. It feels weird for a collective mind to have a Queen. The Queen seemed fairly intelligent too, she was able to recognize Picard as a threat when he tried to sacrifice himself for Data. So if she can recognize unclear threats, why can't she order the Borg to just wipe out any fucking life on board the Enterprise instead of having them ignore people until they start fucking with the Borg? Also kind of takes charm away from the Borg. More like a centralized intelligence than a collective. And hearing their leader spout Borg superiority and how close they are to perfection is really goofy when the next moment you see Borg move like wind-up toys. I guess in TNG it was more innocent coming from a collective intelligence instead of some cheap big bad.

Also did Data bang the Queen? Does the Queen have robo-genitals? If so, why does the Queen have robo-genitals? Why was the Queen separated from her body when she first appeared? Why did the Queen do patchwork job on Data's face instead of giving him all skin? Are the Borg not resistant to projectile weapons and that's why Picard was able to dump 100 rounds into two Borg without them adapting? If so, why doesn't Starfleet put some projectile weapons in Starships? Why was Picard so fucking angry during the entire movie? Why was the Defiant all the way near Earth? How was Data undamaged by all those bullets that black chick shot him with in the beginning of the movie when an arrow managed to penetrate him in one of the Q episodes? Why did Dr. Crusher go blonde? Why is Riker such a cutie? These are the real hard hitting questions.

I'm just gonna warn you now - the TNG films don't work anywhere near as well as the TOS films for one very simple reason: with the exception of Nemesis they were made by people who only had experience making television. Just like people mistakenly assume that comedy is easier to do than serious acting, making a film is a very different beast to making a TV episode. The scale has to be more epic, the stakes (emotional and plot-wise) have to be larger, the storytelling style is completely different. Television writers and directors can make the transition to film, but it's not as easy as you might believe. Also, the TNG films try to give all the characters an equal bite of the apple in terms of screentime whereas the TOS films chose to put the focus mainly on the big three (Kirk, Spock and McCoy) meaning you had a much stronger emotional core and focal point for the story rather than wasting time with characters who aren't interesting enough to transition well to the big screen.

You're about to come up to Insurrection which is widely regarded as the most episode-like of all the films, so brace yourself. The reason you hear so many people defending Nemesis isn't because it's a good film - it's actually quite a bad film, but it's the only TNG film that feels like... well, a film rather than an extended episode. That's because they got John Logan who, while not the best writer ever, was an experienced movie writer. Nemesis may have been the final nail in Star Trek's coffin at the time, but I think at the very least it was a step in the right direction and if they'd made more films it's the direction they should've kept going in. Jonathan Frakes says that if they'd made another film he would've directed it and it would've been much better, but I don't think that would've been the case. If another film was on the cards, it should've been written and directed by people who knew how to make movies - they just needed to come up with a good story this time round.

 

[YankeeTrader]

Star Trek Generations was god damned boring. I have nothing else to say about it, good or bad. I think I started to fall asleep a little when Picard threw a rock at the force field between him and Soran. Shit was more of a chore to watch than TPM honestly.
First Contact was disappointing. They kind of butchered Cochrane in my eyes, I liked the average joe dude he was in Metamorphosis. He was a good dude. Then he was a drunk, an asshole, and an obnoxious cunt. The Vulcans also just kind of landed on the Earth too and they threw a mini-party. I expected first Human-Vulcan contact to be a little bit more...important? I dunno, that shit just felt underwhelming. The Borg were pretty cool, the Borg Queen was not. It feels weird for a collective mind to have a Queen. The Queen seemed fairly intelligent too, she was able to recognize Picard as a threat when he tried to sacrifice himself for Data. So if she can recognize unclear threats, why can't she order the Borg to just wipe out any fucking life on board the Enterprise instead of having them ignore people until they start fucking with the Borg? Also kind of takes charm away from the Borg. More like a centralized intelligence than a collective. And hearing their leader spout Borg superiority and how close they are to perfection is really goofy when the next moment you see Borg move like wind-up toys. I guess in TNG it was more innocent coming from a collective intelligence instead of some cheap big bad.

Also did Data bang the Queen? Does the Queen have robo-genitals? If so, why does the Queen have robo-genitals? Why was the Queen separated from her body when she first appeared? Why did the Queen do patchwork job on Data's face instead of giving him all skin? Are the Borg not resistant to projectile weapons and that's why Picard was able to dump 100 rounds into two Borg without them adapting? If so, why doesn't Starfleet put some projectile weapons in Starships? Why was Picard so fucking angry during the entire movie? Why was the Defiant all the way near Earth? How was Data undamaged by all those bullets that black chick shot him with in the beginning of the movie when an arrow managed to penetrate him in one of the Q episodes? Why did Dr. Crusher go blonde? Why is Riker such a cutie? These are the real hard hitting questions.

Man, I wish I had something for you, but I got nothing. When Generations came out, I had to call up The Final Frontier and apologize for talking all that shit.

There are moments in First Contact that I like, and as flawed as it is, at least it's got a few fun moments. I really try not to think about them too much.

Harry S. Plinkett does some outstanding reviews on the TNG movies on youtube btw.

 

[GeorgeDaMoose]

Man, I wish I had something for you, but I got nothing. When Generations came out, I had to call up The Final Frontier and apologize for talking all that shit.

There are moments in First Contact that I like, and as flawed as it is, at least it's got a few fun moments. I really try not to think about them too much.

Harry S. Plinkett does some outstanding reviews on the TNG movies on youtube btw.

I looked at Mike's review for Generations.
Holy shit I must have actually fallen asleep during the film or something. Maybe my brain just switched off after the intro. I didn't remember a whole lot of plot points. That shit with the photo album? I didn't even remember that they killed off Picard's family fucking off screen in a fire, what the fuck. And Kirk's death, I actually completely forget his death. I wasn't distracted by anything while watching this movie too. I had my eyes glued to the screen and I don't remember Kirk's damn death. The film must have been more boring than I thought.
First Contact was at least entertaining enough for me to pay attention to so I could pick apart its flaws, admire the camera work, and admire the cool make-up/costume(?) work they did on Data. Speaking of Data though, why does he seem to be the focus in both movies? I like Data, but man he completely overshadows my man Riker. I want some more Riker being a competent officer and a suave dude. Instead he just blows up a Bird of Prey. And does a really shitty job at it. Back onto Data though, I 100% expect him to be a huge focus in Insurrection and Nemesis. Fuck he's even on the god damned poster for Nemesis with Picard. Yeah, fuck the rest of the crew. What's a Riker? Worf who?
Aside from the movies though I watched a bit more of Enterprise and it's going down the shitter pretty fast.
"Hey Captain take a look at this planet with less advanced people you know what would be great?"
"What would be great trip?"
"Let's take a shuttle down there without studying them or their culture and hope for the best "
I hope this is a one time thing.