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I remember reading about Axanar back when I was still on SA, it was interesting to read about the shenanigans the director pulled.
It started to look like it was all a long con by Peters. Let's raise a bunch of cash for a movie that we legally can't make, then goad them into suing us and oh, look, we can't make a movie with these piles of cash that we have!
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The New Voyages and Continues guys have produced hours of material on beautifully-reproduced sets. This guy made a 20 minute short which, despite having some impressive CGI battles, was essentially just people in front of a greenscreen. The only one who deserves any credit is the guy who did the CGI.
 
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Here we are again.

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Star Trek Axanar: I’ll be honest and say I did not follow Axanar at all. I only first heard about it when it showed up in my related videos circa 2017. I only know what I’ve read about its development period and the controversy surrounding it. From my perspective it appears less to be a con job and more just an ego project that spiraled out of control. I do have a few reasons for this, which I’ll detail below as well as my general thoughts on the show.

Ignoring its background though and judging it purely as its own thing, I have a lot of problems with Axanar. I’m unhappy with the idea of a Federation-Klingon War to begin with, since this was never an explicit part of the franchise. In TOS it was heavily implied that all-out war between the Federation and the Klingon Empire would bring ruin to both of them. Even Enterprise, with its many missteps, resisted the temptation to depict an all-out war with its Klingon plots.

Additionally, I am extremely unhappy with the idea of the D7 participating in this conflict, let along being a decisive factor in it. The D7 is supposed to be the apex Klingon ship of its era, implied to be a match for the Enterprise or at least a substantial threat to it. This is way too early for it to show up, and I think it’s a microcosm of the problems wrong with Axanar. It succumbs too easily to temptation.

They just had to show us a Federation-Klingon War. They just had to involved the D7 rather than come up with their own ship of the era. In general the whole premise of the show is fan wank material in the first place. You have all of these characters sitting around talking about how awesome the events of the story are while cutting away to that story. It reads like what it is, a promo, not like a real war documentary would read.

This is especially notable in the short film Interlude, where the events of the film take place, and then it immediately cuts to an in-universe interview of Garth talking about how emotional the events made him. But there’s a conflict of interest here, since Garth is played by the guy who wrote the damn show, so in his “interview” he’s talking about how emotional the events he fucking wrote himself are. Its borderline blatant masturbation.

The effects are pretty good, and the actors are pretty good. The returning Trek actors are cool to see and not too forced. The sets look fine. It looks professional, it sounds professional. But the writing is awful. The lines are very melodramatic; characters make dramatic pauses or over-emote when trying to show despondence. And then the interview segments just make it so much worse because the audience is basically being told how to feel about scenes that already had exaggerated emotions involved in the first place. It doesn’t work.

If this production had any real balls there would be no D7, and there would be no space battles. It would just be the people sitting around talking. Rather than show us the events, we could perhaps imagine them based on the testimony of the fictional characters instead. It would be less spectacular, certainly, but it would avoid the masturbatory feel of juxtaposing the events and their interview segments right next to each other like that.

Lastly, I do want to bring up the fact that Axanar and Discovery share remarkable similarities. Its been alleged by Axanar devotees that Discovery outright ripped off Axanar’s premise of showing a Federation-Klingon War. Personally, even though I think Alec Peters is a hack with a bloated ego project under his belt, I do think Paramount or at least Alex Kurtzman ripped him off. The similarities are too obvious for me to ignore, and I wouldn’t put it past Kurtzman especially to try and drink the milkshake of even lowly fan productions because that’s honestly how creatively bankrupt the industry has become.

Its also interesting how Axanar seemed to want to take Star Trek in a more “mature” route, with things like the swearing and the more relaxed (“relaxed” anyway) dialogue. (Including the “Queen-Bitch Whore of the federation” line which is cringe-inducingly ripped off from Kerrigan’s famous “I’m basically Queen Bitch of the universe” line in Starcraft) And its telling to me that Discovery tried to market itself as doing the exact same sort of thing with its writing and dialogue, though of course hundreds of times worse than the already clumsy and glaring way that Axanar did it.

Still I’m willing to recommend Prelude to Axanar at least because its short. There’s really no reason an interested fan should avoid it, but I’m not impressed by it or the project.

PS: I have not watched any of the other projects hosted on Axanar’s channel; the ones set in different eras. I have no idea if they’re any good.

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Star Trek Renegades: I liked Renegades. I guess nobody else did. I mean its not high art, but I have to respect it for at least trying to break away from the established Trek formula and go in a different direction than just “lets explore some random place again”. It works with a lot of loose ends left over from various series, and most of the characters stink of fan wank material I agree. But that argument is kind of hilarious compared to the shit we’ve seen both Discovery and Picard try to pull with their main characters.

Personally I think Renegades handled its questionable premise pretty well, and I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing more of it. Its schlocky, and its several leagues dumber than pre-Abrams established Trek was even at its worst, but I can roll with that since it makes its premise obvious from the outset. It doesn't seem to have any higher pretensions and frankly I've come to respect a lack of ambition at this point, unfortunate as that is.

Like Axanar though I think Kurtzman also ripped this one off, since Star Trek Picard’s plot with the mercenary ship and getting old characters from previous shows together bears an awfully suspicious resemblance to the premise of Renegades. Again, I don’t even think Renegades or Axanar are that good, but Kurtzman clearly stooped as low as ripping both of them off. Should show you what kind vulture hacks they have working on the franchise right now.

I recommend Renegades only if you can stomach its premise though.

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Pacific 201: EC Henry is a sperg, and some of his takes are questionable (though I enjoy some likewise, but his lowest moments include things like defending the Discovery Klingons), but he proves he knows his shit with this show. Pacific is pretty much everything I could want in a Star Trek fan production set during the period its set in. The aesthetics blend well, the effects are excellent, and there’s a great attention to detail the likes of which I can only compare to stuff like Starfleet Museum, with the Pacific having things like missile bays in addition to its torpedo launchers and phaser banks. The look very much conveys a mix between Hard SF and more Star Trek like elements.

The acting overall is also a cut above other fan productions. It’s a bit wooden, but I honestly think that’s much better than awkward. I’m also a Motion Picture apologist so wooden acting and a general lack of emotion from the main cast doesn’t seem that out of place to me in a Trek film. I also find the main character to be likeable (protip: if you want me to like a strong female main character, making her a cute chick with a thick eastern European accent is a good start).

In general the character interactions are very refreshing. They’re understated, but it goes to show you can do convincing dialogue without needing to resort to constant quipping or characters lecturing each other every other line. Also, the show does manage to have characters get jabs in at each other, but they fit organically into the story and still carry a kind of professionalism about them.

In particular I’m thinking of the scene where the Commander criticizes Starfleet Intelligence right to the glowie’s face, and he quickly encourages her to change the subject. It’s a realistic, justified criticism you’d expect from one officer to another, but neither compromises their professional tone over it. Though it does escalate as the plot goes on.

There’s still more than a few issues. For one thing the show is still somehow not immune to gratuitous action scenes, though the one that annoyed me was very brief. The acting does waver in parts, and I found the captain to be totally unconvincing in his role. He feels more like a department store manager than a ship captain honestly. I’m also again a little displeased with the premise since TOS gave the impression that Starfleet hasn’t come anywhere near a Romulan ship since the war ended, but one pops up right here and even offers assistance to the ailing Starfleet ship. Yeah I know they justify it by classifying it and all that, its still tacky.

Its hardly perfect, but its one of the better efforts I’ve seen in recent years. Check it out.

Have a few more left, but they're mostly short or silly. I haven't seen any of the other big ones.

PS: I absolutely do not follow the personal lives or Twitter accounts of any of the people involved in these shows, so if it turns out one of them has extreme TDS or is a degenerate furfag or something I as of right now am not aware of that, so bear that in mind.
 
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Damn you're right, we were absolutely robbed of sexy nun Leeta.
don't forget swole picard in live-action form!

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but for me those obvious flaws are way easier to stomach than the stuff wrong with New Voyages and Continues. It’s a lot easier to forgive Exeter since its trying to be its own thing.
this. the only form where that works is written fanfiction since your mind can fill in the rest, anything else is pretty much "the same but different" so doomed to fail. it's understandable people want to bank on established property for various reasons, but in the end it's still "star trek" or "star wars" or whatever, so there's usually enough room left to do your own thing, which usually ends up the better option, including long term and legally.

also wasn't there a third party tng-era book series about an actual battlecruise or something? or do I confuse it with titan?
 
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I cant reply to a long post, but didn't renegades have some legal trouble where they couldn't properly finish it? They had to make the story original and cut out the ST bits at the half way point or something?
 
I cant reply to a long post, but didn't renegades have some legal trouble where they couldn't properly finish it? They had to make the story original and cut out the ST bits at the half way point or something?
Yeah, but the original hour and a half or so pilot is still fully intact since it predates all of that. The first bits of the prequel, Requiem, have come out but I never got around to watching them.

Also a tip is that you can quote an unquotable post by quoting something else by that user, toggling BB code, and then changing the master post number by hand. You can find the post number by hovering over that little post number on the corner of each post (the number it displays normally is the post number according to just that thread, the tooltip gives you the actual master post number.

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I had enough to say that I'm actually breaking up my post into two parts too, God help me. I didn't even realize until I started writing this how many series I've seen let alone the number that are out there.
Its tedious to do but it works.
 
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Star Trek's Ferengi get the spotlight in April's Star Trek: Ferengi one-shot. Written by Christina Rice with art by Andy Price, Star Trek: Ferengi is the second release in IDW Publishing's Alien Spotlight revival. Fans recently got a glimpse at the Ferengi in the 32nd century in Star Trek: Discovery. IDW's one-shot turns back the clock to focus on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's beloved Ferengi family: Quark, Rom, and their "moogie" Ishka. The issue sees Quark and Rom adjusting to Ishka's push for women's rights in overtly patriarchal Ferengi society. That brings them back to the Ferengi homeworld, Ferenginar. Here's the story's synopsis:

"Dive deeper into the world of Star Trek with another extra-long issue focusing on the memorable aliens of the franchise!This month: Follow Quark on an unforgettable adventure to Ferenginar, where mother, brother, and brother challenge the very core beliefs of Ferengi culture. Witness Ferengi history change forever in this can't-miss issue!"

Star Trek's Alien Spotlight is a series of one-shot issues telling tales of the Star Trek iconic alien species. Star Trek: Klingons kicks things off in February.

"There is no Star Trek without the vast population of alien species calling the universe home," editor Heather Antos said in the press release announcing the project. "From Klingons to Ferengi, Vulcans to Trill and beyond, it's so exciting to delve deep into what makes each of the species a unique addition to the world of Trek, Mirrorverse, or otherwise!"

The Alien Spotlight series offers classic Star Trek storytelling in IDW"s current Star Trek line. The biggest project in that line is Star Trek: The Mirror War. The year-long event follows the Enterprise crew of the mirror universe. Modern Star Trek fans can look forward to new Star Trek: Discovery stories in Adventures in the 32nd Century.
 
All of that was addressed and covered in DS9. It seems like they are they just going to show that not every Ferengi is into how the new Nagus wants to run things and that's bad. All I can imagine is a panel of some Ferengi guy throwing his sister/wife/mother across the room because she wanted to wear clothes and he's a traditionalist, her crying and being miserable saying she wanted a chance and then Quark will tell him that he used to think the same way but changed because that's not very nice.
 
The real outrage is that she's wearing clothes on the cover of that comic. I bet she's not even naked on one page. Destroying what made Ferengi great. Not my Nagus. Someone should make Ferenginar great again.
 
The real outrage is that she's wearing clothes on the cover of that comic. I bet she's not even naked on one page. Destroying what made Ferengi great.
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Hundred bucks says Moogie enters the race for the next Nagus. Yes, writers, we get it: Hillary won the popular vote.
that font looks like it belongs more on a stoner/fuzz rock album
It would make more sense if they referenced the fifties. Quark was responsible for the Roswell incident.

The idea that a woman’s place is in the kitchen did not arise in the 50s. However, it was especially strong then, due to the push to return to normalcy after WWII.
 
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The Playmates Star Trek figures are coming back. I had a lot of the 90s toys as a kid.
I know which two figures I will not be buying, though!
 
The Playmates Star Trek figures are coming back. I had a lot of the 90s toys as a kid.
I know which two figures I will not be buying, though!
I'm not buying any of them because I'm in my fucking 30s.

E: I had that phaser as a kid though and used to annoy the hell out of my dad with it.
 
The Playmates Star Trek figures are coming back. I had a lot of the 90s toys as a kid.
I know which two figures I will not be buying, though!
Prepare your local retailer for pegs and pegs of Discovery figures unsold, their corners rounded.
 
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