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Threshold is bad but at least its bizarre enough to be unintentionally hilarious, I can't hate this episode nearly as much as I hate ones like "Fair Haven" or "Favorite Son"
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Oh God, Threshold is hilarious.

That is the biggest "What the fuck?!" ending for a Star Trek episode that I have ever seen.

When you track the progression of the story, it goes from A to B to THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED?!
 
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I wonder how they're going to 'ruin' Janeway in Star Trek Prodigy. Actually, no I don't. They'll probably pretend that she's always been a well-balanced and decent human being.
 
They blew their budget on the makeup, so the shootout with Tom (and Janeway's kidnapping) happens off-screen.
Admittedly, the makeup is pretty fucking baller and the whole cronenberg style body horror is the best part of the entire episode.

Thing is, the concept of warp 10, how it's described by Tom ("being everyhwere at once" or something) is stupid and I think it would have made more sense to have him be exposed to some techno-babble radiation from their experimental drive without passing the warp barrier. Overall, the whole episode could be pretty ok with small tweaks and a completely different climax.

The main offense of the end is that something majorly fucked up happens (ie: Tom and Janeway mutating into lizards and creating weird offspring) but it gets sweeped under the rug immediately and without any consequences (the offspring is discarded and both people are turned back to normal without even the smallest hint of a lasting effect on their relationship). That makes the whole episode fall flat on its face. The only thing worse would have been an end where it cuts to Tom waking up in his bunk to reveal it was all just a dream all along.

Seriously, walking in on a co-worker letting rip a major fart in an elevator creates more lasting effects and interpersonal drama than Tom turning into a mutant, abducting Janeway to turn her into a mutant and them both having axolotly sexy time on some godforsaken planet.

I wonder how they're going to 'ruin' Janeway in Star Trek Prodigy. Actually, no I don't. They'll probably pretend that she's always been a well-balanced and decent human being.
If the concept of a double negative turning into a positive held true, they'd turn Janeway into a great and consistent character... but alas, this is CURRENT YEAR Hollywood, so we know they just pile shit upon shit upon shit...
 
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"People generally knew when an episode was bad. We even had one director go to the producers and tell them he was ashamed to direct the episode where our crew turned into lizard people. The finale was one of those where you'd go down to the stage and see people shaking their heads while reading the script." - Doug Mirabello

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I'm sorry, but Braga is just terrible. He can't write solo, he can't co-write, he steered VOY into a ditch and completely botched the first 2 seasons of ENT, on top of concluding 18 years of Trek with one of its worst episodes ever - so bad that the crew hated him for it, and they had to hold a press conference before the episode even aired to address criticism. He's not "flawed" or "complex."
I just remembered Braga is also responsible for the shitty TNG episode "Identity Crisis", remember this shit?
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Seriously does this dude have a thing for people turning into lizards?
 
Maybe he is a secret furry, he did put his future girlfriend in a catsuit.
We know he's into macrophilia. (Not that I'm judging.)
He grins, eyes glazing. "My greatest fantasy is to be with that fifty-foot woman from those schmaltzy 1950s sci-fi films. That would be the ultimate: To actually crawl up into a vagina."
 
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Oh God, Threshold is hilarious.

That is the biggest "What the fuck?!" ending for a Star Trek episode that I have ever seen.

When you track the progression of the story, it goes from A to B to THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED?!
It is funny when you realize Tom Paris banged every main female cast member of the show except 7 of 9. AND all 3 of them were his baby mamas.

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I hate Threshold. I couldn't believe something that stupid actually got produced and put on the air.
Plus they forgot that The Traveler made the Enterprise break Warp 10 in TNG season 1 and nobody turned into lizards then.
 
I hate Threshold. I couldn't believe something that stupid actually got produced and put on the air.
Plus they forgot that The Traveler made the Enterprise break Warp 10 in TNG season 1 and nobody turned into lizards then.
No joke, the technical manual used to say that in that episode the Traveler had them going warp 9.9999999999999999999997.

Or maybe it was the encyclopedia. I've got it in one of my books.
 
Plus they forgot that The Traveler made the Enterprise break Warp 10 in TNG season 1 and nobody turned into lizards then.
There's a lot of weird technobabble stuff that makes things go faster than Warp 10, like transwarp and whatever the caretaker used to pull Voyager in from the Alpha quadrant in the first place.

The whole concept of Warp 10 being this magical margin to break and then everything goes haywire is so stupid, when there is stuff like transwarp. What is so special about Warp 10? It feels like some arbitrary setup akin to real-world-phyiscs FTL in an FTL sci fi setting.
No joke, the technical manual used to say that in that episode the Traveler had them going warp 9.9999999999999999999997.

Or maybe it was the encyclopedia. I've got it in one of my books.
It's kind of like the bullshit regarding the Kessler Run in SW tbh. Some technobabble nonsense to explain why "parsec" is used as a measurement of speed when in fact, it was just some writer dropping a poorly understood sciency term in his script.
 
Maybe he's a secret furry and lizards are the thing that gets him off.
Scalies are the most degenerate form of furry.
It's kind of like the bullshit regarding the Kessler Run in SW tbh. Some technobabble nonsense to explain why "parsec" is used as a measurement of speed when in fact, it was just some writer dropping a poorly understood sciency term in his script.
It was a measurement of time. The line was "made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs." The ass-pull was that it was some really circuitous route through asteroid belts and stuff so it actually was a unit of distance. They took short cuts, presumably through asteroid belts and other hazards.
 
I have a lot of downtime currently and I am thinking about watching Picard. I didn't really care much for anything after TNG/DS9. How angry will I be?
Picard isn't really Picard anymore, and the whole show is a bad metaphor for Brexit (when it isn't ripping off the worst Mass Effect game). Expect lots of pointless violence, heavy drinking, and virtually every side character browbeating Picard for being a huwhite man.
 
It was a measurement of time. The line was "made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs." The ass-pull was that it was some really circuitous route through asteroid belts and stuff so it actually was a unit of distance. They took short cuts, presumably through asteroid belts and other hazards.
There were rumors that in earlier drafts the line was deliberately wrong by Han Solo as a test to see how much he could rip off the rubes.

I always wished they just ran with that idea.
 
There were rumors that in earlier drafts the line was deliberately wrong by Han Solo as a test to see how much he could rip off the rubes.
No, it was a mistake by George Lucas. Then Alan Dean Foster tried to explain it away that way in the novelization. I saw Solo, but I forgot everything about it and couldn't tell you what Disney's official explanation is.

Well, ENT season 4, but a common pitfall is that potential viewers will try to watch the first two seasons for continuity reasons.
I'd love to see a guide as to what are the good episodes of Enterprise. There must be some pre-season 4 episodes that are essential, right?
 
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