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[The greater a'tuin]

The latest Fantastic Four drop.

I hate Susan's force fields devolving into generic telekinesis... it was way more creative when they stayed as stationary bubbles and not whatever shape the plot needs.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I hate Susan's force fields devolving into generic telekinesis... it was way more creative when they stayed as stationary bubbles and not whatever shape the plot needs.

For a character that is about 60 years old now.

I don't know what to think anymore given that nigger spiderman is now a swordsman who has thunder powers and can become invisible.

I guess its the end result when they have to make her look like she is capable of doing something beyond invisibility.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Still haven't started Jimenez yet because I'm still going through JLD. They just got back from Detective Chimp's fantasy realm thing.

My favorite crossover would have to be War of the Gods. Something about Pérez that just works. The idea of Circe being the main antagonist as opposed to your usual Joker, Lex Luthor, or Darkseid is fun. She's a fucking bitch but she will also literally turn you into a dove and then kill you and fry you for dinner. No seriously she did it in the crossover.

This might be Mandela effect but I feel like I remember at one point the Justice League split and had their own ones like Superman had aliens, Wonder Woman had a bunch of females, Batman had...I think his rogue's gallery?

 

[strumpets exeunt]

This might be Mandela effect but I feel like I remember at one point the Justice League split and had their own ones like Superman had aliens, Wonder Woman had a bunch of females, Batman had...I think his rogue's gallery?

That was an event. “The Justice League of A.” A spell made everyone forget the JLA, and someone tried to counterspell it but got cut off before they could finish. We wound up with JL of Aliens, JL of Amazons, JL of Arkham, etc.

 

[Elite Kipchak]

"If the women aren't nice and complimentary to each other all the time, I might get cancelled."

And who's the redhead? I'm getting "Gal Gardner" vibes.

some psychic named Omen. I think she's a preexisting character but I haven't read anything with her in it before. basically power girl gets some asspull psychic powers and accidentally gets spiritually linked to omen. they then decide to become therapists for some reason. cue obligatory whining about supergirl. then everything kinda just goes to shit, johnny sorrow shows up and then pg loses her psychic powers but not really? idk this shit was hard to read. I like the whole identity crisis thing with power girl not being part of the main universe but goddamn they really push it too hard here.

also they renamed her to Paige (PG > Peej > Paige) instead of Karen Starr, which is just silly imo

 

[Steve Martin Short]

That was an event. “The Justice League of A.” A spell made everyone forget the JLA, and someone tried to counterspell it but got cut off before they could finish. We wound up with JL of Aliens, JL of Amazons, JL of Arkham, etc.

Ah, yes. Part of the "fifth-week event" era, where we'd get something like this or Sins of Youth or Tangent Comics any time a month had five Wednesdays. Haven't thought of that or those stories in ages.

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[strumpets exeunt]

Talking about Our Worlds at War got me jonesing for some pre-Nu52 DC, so I've been pouring through the backlogs. More specifically, I've been rereading the Convergence comics. Though a bit hackneyed, the premise of slices of different eras/universes of comic runs frozen in time and then forced to death battle it out are entertaining in a guilty way. I had no idea there were this many... somewhere between 8-10 trades worth of material at least and I'm still going. The most striking part has been seeing how they kept trying to flesh out the Tangent universe. Best part of the event has been the little moments they gave to the C-listers. Letting Elongated man lead a faction of Justice League Detroit to victory. Having Ted Kord be the brains behind the JLI. Letting Steel do literally anything. And, of course, Convergence gave us Jon Kent, which actually was kind of exciting for a very brief window before Bendis gave me yet another reason to want him dead in the fucking ground.

I really, really like Ted Kord, you guys.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Oh god Detroit. Vibe reminding us he was Spanish as much as Betsy with her 'focused totality of my psychic knife' and then he and Steel both dead lmao.

The Phoenix omnibus is coming out soon. It covers everything from Here Comes Tomorrow up to her Resurrection. It sounds promising. I'm glad she's back. I know she's the Marvel posterchild for dying repeatedly. Yes she ate a star but it was shitty of them to kill her for it in the 70s.....80s....whatever year.

I think it would have been interesting to have Selene as an antagonist for her, although I guess technically we got that in Rachel. I confess I never read Excalibur. I've read her from when she appears in X-Treme. End of Grey's really traumatized me in school.

I would love to know why Jean had to go through so much shit. She loses her best friend as a kid, Xavier hits on her creepily, she gets radiation poisoning trying to save the team only to get the power of the Phoenix. She ends up grappling with her sanity, she gets brainwashed by the Hellfire Club and then becomes Dark Phoenix. She eats a star and gets put on trial. She dies. A suspiciously similar substitute comes along and steals her man. She emerges trapped underwater, and then the substitute dies, she finds out she has kids in the future who then appear in present. Her sister dies in the Phalanx arc, she finds her husband being essentially raped by his fake therapist, then she herself perishes again. And then her entire family dies, her daughter gets PTSD, she somehow tells Scott its fine if he porks Emma, and then it takes a long while before she reappears.

 

[Anon88]

some psychic named Omen. I think she's a preexisting character but I haven't read anything with her in it before. basically power girl gets some asspull psychic powers and accidentally gets spiritually linked to omen. they then decide to become therapists for some reason.

Omen is actually kind of a cool character, at least during the 80's when Marv Wolfman was writing Teen Titans. I'm not sure about the whole power girl stuff, but back then she was a minor character who was friends with Wonder Girl and had a pretty memorable story arc connecting her to the Greek gods as well as playing a role in one of the Trigon story lines. Never officially joined the team though and never even went by the name Omen during that time. Everyone just called her Lilith.

 

[Humble Architect]

I love that PKJ can just fail upwards like this, that glowie faggot has ruined Clark and Bruce with his crap and he’s literally doing the Cates run again, which itself was KLUH again.

That’s not Hulk btw, that’s his OC “Mother of Monsters” in Hulk’s body.

 

[strumpets exeunt]

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I love that PKJ can just fail upwards like this, that glowie faggot has ruined Clark and Bruce with his crap and he’s literally doing the Cates run again, which itself was KLUH again.

That’s not Hulk btw, that’s his OC “Mother of Monsters” in Hulk’s body.

Place your bets on further "i" adjectives for Hulk.

Incestuous Hulk
Ironic Hulk
Insipid Hulk
Irresistible Hulk
Ineffable Hulk

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Place your bets on further "i" adjectives for Hulk.

Incestuous Hulk
Ironic Hulk
Insipid Hulk
Irresistible Hulk
Ineffable Hulk

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The Justice Friends is unironically better superhero fiction than a lot of stuff being published these days, and it's just a bunch of knock offs sharing an apartment together to kill time in between the actual Dexter's Laboratory bits we tuned in to watch.

Hell, Dial M for Monkey had a protagonist who couldn't speak English and he had better lines than some writers out there today.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

The arc in Gotham where Wonder Woman and pals go up against the children of Aries in the bodies of Joker, Ivy, and Scarecrow was alright. Maxie Zeus.....I could have sworn he was a bigger villain in the comics.

Speaking of Gotham. How was the original Gotham City Sirens? I only ever read the first volume back in the day. I've heard mixed opinions but no concrete reason why its hated or loved.

 

[strumpets exeunt]

Speaking of Gotham. How was the original Gotham City Sirens? I only ever read the first volume back in the day. I've heard mixed opinions but no concrete reason why its hated or loved.

Y'know, I've never read GCS, but rereading other old runs makes me realize how ridiculous it was that they tried to make the bad girls of a Gotham a thing. For most of their appearances - in canon and out - Ivy, Catwoman, and Harley fucking haaaaaaaated each other. Selina, in particular, was manipulated multiple times by Ivy in Hush, Dark Victory, and other stories. Harley and Ivy were at each other's throats when she was still Joker's moll and both women were still allowed to be attracted to men. And then there were the times when Selina was going through a redemption arc and the others weren't, which lead to the designated females on each side having their little gender-permitted fights so you didn't have to feel icky about seeing a guy punch a girl.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I just finished off a bunch of Epic Collections and I want to talk about the good (Ghost Rider: Danny Ketch), the bad (Avengers West Coast), and the meh (ROM), but I saw this beautiful piece up for auction and I had to post it first.

Six connecting covers from The Walking Dead Deluxe showing a massive panorama of zombie fighting action. I'm not a fan of the Walking Dead, but even I can appreciate the sheer spectacle of this piece.

Y'know, I've never read GCS, but rereading other old runs makes me realize how ridiculous it was that they tried to make the bad girls of a Gotham a thing. For most of their appearances - in canon and out - Ivy, Catwoman, and Harley fucking haaaaaaaated each other. Selina, in particular, was manipulated multiple times by Ivy in Hush, Dark Victory, and other stories. Harley and Ivy were at each other's throats when she was still Joker's moll and both women were still allowed to be attracted to men. And then there were the times when Selina was going through a redemption arc and the others weren't, which lead to the designated females on each side having their little gender-permitted fights so you didn't have to feel icky about seeing a guy punch a girl.

Fortunately, when you scrub away all of a character's personal motivations, you can have them do anything!

 

[PrincessHomura]

Y'know, I've never read GCS, but rereading other old runs makes me realize how ridiculous it was that they tried to make the bad girls of a Gotham a thing. For most of their appearances - in canon and out - Ivy, Catwoman, and Harley fucking haaaaaaaated each other. Selina, in particular, was manipulated multiple times by Ivy in Hush, Dark Victory, and other stories. Harley and Ivy were at each other's throats when she was still Joker's moll and both women were still allowed to be attracted to men. And then there were the times when Selina was going through a redemption arc and the others weren't, which lead to the designated females on each side having their little gender-permitted fights so you didn't have to feel icky about seeing a guy punch a girl.

That's why it's an instant tell when someone supports it that they're simply not actual fans. All they care about is lesbians to fantasize about, they never cared about comics and they never cared about the characters.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Wondy beating the shit out of Circe to literally make her realize her daughter needs her is still one of the greatest scenes in any WW comic.

Interesting how New Themyscira was great and then Rucka made Hera all pissy and made her literally cause it to collapse by kicking it over.

After Jimenez run, I'm moving to the Phoenix saga. I don't think I ever actually sat down to read the issues themselves. I am curious. I used to have the Classic X-Men omnibus. A lot of those stories were great. Stuff like Nightcrawler cheering up a boy at the hospital only to realize he was a ghost, Storm and Jean's day out, Storm and the mentally ill patient, Cyclops very fucked up childhood with Sinister manipulating things (potentially raping Scott's therapist/orphanage head? And sending the adoptee parents to their deaths in a plane crash)

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Speaking of Gotham. How was the original Gotham City Sirens? I only ever read the first volume back in the day. I've heard mixed opinions but no concrete reason why its hated or loved.

We're talking about Paul Dini's run? I read it but it wasn't great, there wasn't much to grab me. It was just... kind of bland. Which is a shame because at the same time I loved what he was doing with Streets of Gotham as a sequel to his Detective Comics run, which I thought was better. It almost feels like he was shoved onto the book and told 'make this and we'll let you continue your Batman stuff' without any real passion for it. And while he would have guest writers in between issues on DC and SoG, it felt more frequent on GCS.

There's really nothing to love or hate about it, it's a mid-tier book like so many others out there.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Jimenez omnibus was great. It includes the 2005 Donna Troy return mini. Villany Inc seems to have just disappeared except I know Giganta showed up in current continuity idk about clea, jinx, etc

Found out they had a Phoenix comic that showed an alternate to her surviving the Dark Phoenix Saga. There's a dialogue between the writers. I originally thought it was Shooter they blamed but nope. Roger Stern apparently.