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Its not a total 1 for 1, but that kinda reminds me of the Thunderbolts introduction. Well, the part where all the A-List teams are out of the picture at least.
I forgot about that little era. A lot of the heavy hitters 'died' defeating Onslaught or were otherwise gone for about a year or two. Marvel tried introducing new versions via 'Heroes Reborn' but it went over like a lead balloon, so Marvel instead went "lol never mind" and brought everyone back.
 
Annihilation too
Except it was during Civil War and those retards were fighting each other. I love how Nova was confused by all that.
It was probably Abnett's only way of criticizing Millar's garbage since everyone was sucking up to him at that time. The whole issue is a fuck you letter.
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Yes, all eyes being on the better-known properties allowed DnA to write a far more interesting and well-executed event in space and while the main civil war book had the art of mcniven, it was terrible short of a few moments. Even the tieins were mostly crap.
 
If I ever wrote X-Men I would likely make a very blatant 2nd Amendment parallel issue. Also self-segregation being effectively banned in the US where a X-men group cannot actually fix their own issue due to self-interested elements both within and without.

I probably would make Ultron a main villain and trying to fucking with reality (goal would be to try to be a real boy and bring back Hank’s first wife). I’d probably retcon it so Ultron is based on Pym trying to simulate his wife after she got killed by the Russians. He destroyed that program, but failed to completely and when he tried making Ultron made a “child” based on a corrupted mental scan of himself and the wife program merging to make a functional AI that immediately goes rampant.
 
So i read somewhere that Bullseye's is hard to shock so my question is what stuff has caused him to be shocked?
 
I had an idea for Marvel where the bigger heroes like the Avengers, X-Men and Fantastic Four are away from New York, right when the city gets teleported into another dimension. While Spider-Man breaks into the Baxter Building to work out a way to get them home, the other street level heroes have to deal with this galactic level threat and keep everyone safe. You get to introduce casual readers to characters like Moon Knight and give them a chance to shine.
Its not a total 1 for 1, but that kinda reminds me of the Thunderbolts introduction. Well, the part where all the A-List teams are out of the picture at least.
That was essentially Onslaught and Heroes Reborn in a nutshell. Marvel took the Avengers and Fantastic Four off the main board for a year and placed them in a pocket universe while bigger properties like Spider-Man and X-Men continued on as normal. The Thunderbolts were an almost perfect subversion, the Masters of Evil disguise themselves a superheroes as part of Zemo's world conquest plot. Luke Cage and Iron Fist got another shot at Heroes for Hire. It always struck me as bad timing that the first volume New Warriors was cancelled around this time with Marvel's bankruptcy. They were to the Avengers what the Teen Titans were to the Justice League, granted, none of them were sidekicks. The "death" of the Avengers forced them to step up in a big way and while they made some appearances post-Onslaught in Thunderbolts, no one ran with the premise.
 
That was essentially Onslaught and Heroes Reborn in a nutshell. Marvel took the Avengers and Fantastic Four off the main board for a year and placed them in a pocket universe while bigger properties like Spider-Man and X-Men continued on as normal. The Thunderbolts were an almost perfect subversion, the Masters of Evil disguise themselves a superheroes as part of Zemo's world conquest plot. Luke Cage and Iron Fist got another shot at Heroes for Hire. It always struck me as bad timing that the first volume New Warriors was cancelled around this time with Marvel's bankruptcy. They were to the Avengers what the Teen Titans were to the Justice League, granted, none of them were sidekicks. The "death" of the Avengers forced them to step up in a big way and while they made some appearances post-Onslaught in Thunderbolts, no one ran with the premise.
lmao the whole Marvel reconstruction era post Onslaught was weird. We had a new Heroes for Hire, Black Knight popped up again, we explored more of Wundagore and the Maximoffs, and I remember Black Widow & Hercules repeatedly trying to get a new Avengers team going.

Anyways, the Perez-Busiek Avengers run was good. I wish they'd just returned to the Black Knight subplot. I always did like Dane Whitman, but wished Marvel knew what to do with him.
 
It has always amused me that Lee and Liefeld wanted Hulk in Heroes Reborn, but his book's sales weren't in the tank. So he got split into Hulk and Banner during Onslaught, and Banner sacrificed himself. Leaving Peter David to figure out what happens next.

And thinking about all this reminds me of the Daydreamers miniseries where Franklin Richards goes on an adventure with Artie and Leech from the mutant books, and now I want a story where the three of them team up with Franklin's other friends the Power Pack.
 
So interestingly enough the Dazzler omnibus has thinkpieces about her included by former Marvel staff, and they also have a ton of the letters pages from the series. Its interesting to see how they progress as the series goes on. One guy writes in to complain about some trivial matter from the first issue, but in the second he writes a more supportive letter having changed his opinion.

I love little details like that. Anyway here's a bunch of people in da clurb.
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Hell there's also a part in her comic where all the superheroes run off to the club restrooms to change and Peter Parker can't get a stall, so he just changes in the damn ceiling because why the fuck not?
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Also there is a random Asgard fight scene wherein the victor, a nameless brute, goes in afterwards to see the Enchantress, who ends up turning him into a tree.
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Anyway Dazzler gets entangled with Dr Doom.
 
So interestingly enough the Dazzler omnibus has thinkpieces about her included by former Marvel staff
I'm morbidly curious as to what they say. Ten years ago, Dazzler had the unfortunate luck of being latched upon by the Zoe Quinn crowd as some kind of feminist/trans icon. When, in reality, she was created to sell disco records years after disco was dead and buried.
 
I'm morbidly curious as to what they say. Ten years ago, Dazzler had the unfortunate luck of being latched upon by the Zoe Quinn crowd as some kind of feminist/trans icon. When, in reality, she was created to sell disco records years after disco was dead and buried.
Honestly if I was Marvel editorial, I would be trying to make a really good Dazzler series that could run for a while. The fact that her original run is still in the top 10 longest running Marvel female heroes with out a relaunch amazes me
 
The original Dazzler series running for as long as it did was largely due to Marvel's stubbornness rather than due to any real success. From what I've read about it, the book got pretty crap reviews and had poor sales for most of its run. Its biggest claim to fame is the first issue supposedly selling 400k, but as far as I can tell that 400k is what Marvel sold to the stores (which they couldn't return), after hyping up the series as the next big thing, rather than what actual individual customers bought.
 
The original Dazzler series running for as long as it did was largely due to Marvel's stubbornness rather than due to any real success. From what I've read about it, the book got pretty crap reviews and had poor sales for most of its run. Its biggest claim to fame is the first issue supposedly selling 400k, but as far as I can tell that 400k is what Marvel sold to the stores (which they couldn't return), after hyping up the series as the next big thing, rather than what actual individual customers bought.
Its still a fun little time capsule. I neglected to mention she frequently says "Go for it!" as this appears to be an attempt at giving her a catchphrase that quickly fizzled out.

@Stab You in the Back they actually do point out disco being dead in her very first appearance no less. It gets lampshaded by Scott when he and Jean investigate the club where she is performing in Uncanny X-Men.
 
The original Dazzler series running for as long as it did was largely due to Marvel's stubbornness rather than due to any real success. From what I've read about it, the book got pretty crap reviews and had poor sales for most of its run. Its biggest claim to fame is the first issue supposedly selling 400k, but as far as I can tell that 400k is what Marvel sold to the stores (which they couldn't return), after hyping up the series as the next big thing, rather than what actual individual customers bought.
Yeah, that's the thing about every 'sales number' reported for comics: It doesn't mean 400k people bought the book, it means stores/news stands ordered a total of 400k copies. 8 million people didn't buy Jim Lee's X-Men #1, 8 million copies were ordered and a few months later they were in the "3 for $1" bins because the stores couldn't return their stock.

I've always wondered what the actual numbers are.
 
I noticed John Byrne and Phil Jimenez's runs on Wonder Woman are getting omnibus releases this year. I loved the latter's take on Circe. There is a sequence where Diana meets her in Greece and they begin fighting each other. Circe insults the recently deceased Hippolyta to Diana's face so Diana quite literally beats the ever loving fuck out of her and is like this close to killing her. Circe screams for Diana to end her. But then Circe's daughter enters and Diana gives up.

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I can't explain it but the way the scene is done is very striking, the placement of the panels, etc. I'm only familiar with Byrne's run because I believe he kills Diana off for some reason.
 
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