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Swamp Thing has always been a cape book. Moore and Weins runs had super heroes in it, Veitch had an Invasion Xover and Lex Luther rape scene, and Emerald Twilight got name checked at the end of the Millar run.
 
Swamp Thing has always been a cape book. Moore and Weins runs had super heroes in it, Veitch had an Invasion Xover and Lex Luther rape scene, and Emerald Twilight got name checked at the end of the Millar run.

It existed within a universe with superheroes, but that just seems to me to be incredibly reductive of the majority of those hundred plus issues of horror and space fiction.

I’d argue that Conan and Swamp Thing are flash in the pan.

But they weren't. Conan comics have gone to the present day. Swamp Thing, flash in the pan? Swamp thing spawned off Vertigo. Which didn't sell great because it pandered to a small, niche crowd triggered by anything colorful and heroic.

Did you actually read comics? Forgetting, for a moment the FOUR years of Crossgen, with tons of non-hero comics pandering to that audience. Forget work at Dark Horse. Was Sin City a flash in the pan? Then there's Billy Tucci's Shi? Or Avatar press.

That's just Indies. Apparently anything with a hero is 'capeshit'; so Endless is off the table. But I'd argue there's still plenty to come out of DC from the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s. Thousands of comics over decades aren't a flash in the pan.

Comics do not attract new audiences, Vertigo and Image were just the result of people getting annoyed by Capeshit and burning out good will at an astonishing rate.

They...have to. There are readers who Bendis' horrid Spidey was there first experience. New readers who never read Barry Allen or Hal Jordan as those respective characters. Comics were getting new readers into the early 10's when the quality just got so damn low.

Vertigo was from an editorial standpoint a mix of Britbong creators with Karen Bergers help channeling the good will created by books like Swamp Thing into an alt imprint where they could do alternative genre stories not targeted at kids.

Image, underwent a reinvention after the speculator collapse driven by a desire to survive when quality started mattering.
 
Conan was one of the books that had the most requests to be filled for me at the store. It blew my mind as well, because I thought the same, but its audience is pretty strong.
Isn’t it a published by a French company now? The rights are held by an American company, but outside of rereleases and crossovers it’s not an American company.
 
Does anyone know anything about the rumors that Erik Larsen burned his own home down in tbe 90's for insurance and never lost all his old comics? Has anyone else ever heard about this?
 
The current Green Lantern run (the Hal Jordan one) is pretty boring, unfortunately. Far more boring and uninspired than John Stewart's war journal series. They've nerfed Hal's ring again after all the business in Morrisson's run about it being a sentient thing that he made form his own willpower that was a part of him etc etc and he's back to 'big green plane' and 'simping pathetically after Carol' mode- I guess he was getting too OP. The artwork is fine but nothing particualrly exciting, a far cry from the crazy experimental stuff we were getting from Liam Sharp. It's still early days so who knows, maybe things will get more interesting, but currently I feel like i'm wasting time and money everytime I pick up the new issue.

I'm reading Uncanny Avengers and it's... fine I guess. I like that Quicksilver is right back to being a total manwhore and hitting on the most fuckable single lady on his team, it's pretty cute and funny. It's been a while since he had anything interesting to do and I'm forced to stan his current portrayal as disinterested Eurotrash, it reminds me a lot of Ultimates (in a good way). In fact, he's the only person who's acting in character and exhibiting some sort of personality. Deadpool is boring, Captain America is boring, the villain reveal is boring, the 'Americuh Gud' speech from the issue before last was a huge eyeroll and felt very tone-deaf.

I picked up the first 3 issues of Avengers inc today. I don't usuallycare much about Janet but I've enjoyed what I read so far and the pertnership with Victor/Whirlwind is fun. It feels a bit rushed and the second issue was weak, but I do enjoy anything that makes Hank Pym look like an asshole so I think I'll keep following.

Other things I've read recently- Crusader is cool, I'm excited to see where it's going and I really like the more cartoony art style. I got bored of Saladin Ahmed's Daredevil after two issues, the man is an awful writer and I'll never forgive him for that horrendous Quicksilver miniseries back in the latw '10s (the only good thing about them was the covers, they were really beuatiful). It's a shame because the idea of Daredevil getting more in touch with his catholicism is interesting given how politicised the church has become recently. The first issue threatened to become cool with the whole 'playing the devil' thing, almost like he felt he was being possessed by the urge to be a devil, but then issue two rolled around and was lame so I'm not gonna continue following it.
 
I recently saw DC had released some new initiative a few months back and so I just looked...what the heck?

You have Powergirl, in pants. She's had an insane breast reduction, like I'd be surprised if she's an B cup? And then there's it being written by some stupid bitch no name. They screw up her history.

It doesn't get better. They gave Tom King ANOTHER Batman book? Oh and apparently he's writing Wonder Woman. I read the first couple of issues and wow is it bad. It's like, he's every parody of a woman writer in present day from reading this series, but somehow he writes dialogue worse than Bendis. Oh, and get this, James Gunn, DC's big savior or whatever? He's adapting that stupid supergirl book he did? Fuck me....how is DC worse than the last time I checked a couple of months ago?

Oh, I also read JMS Captain America. It's a six or a seven out of ten. Which considering the last three runs I would have given a -3, a 1, and a 2 to is really depressing.
 
I'm an avid collector, so I grab all of these to bag, board, and box up, but it's just been so long since I've found a title to hold me. Even the non cape work is half-assed and uninspiring. I'm a big Batman fangirl (Catwoman '94 was where I got my start), and will suffer through reading the current/on-going titles solely out of stubbornness.

Could or do you guys have any reco's for a non caped title that I may have overlooked that you enjoyed?
 
Isn’t it a published by a French company now? The rights are held by an American company, but outside of rereleases and crossovers it’s not an American company.
No, it's under Titan Publishing, which is UK.
Conan's IP situation is complicated. In Europe, Conan entered public domain in 2006. Glenat started it's adaptation line of Conan stories in 2018. They are getting released on the American market as Cimmerian by Ablaze.
Heroic Signatures is the copyright holder for Conan in the U.S. They licensed comic book rights to Titan few years ago. Before that, they were with Marvel, and before that Dark Horse. Conan will enter public domain in the U.S. around 2028, assuming IP rights won't change.
 
You have Powergirl, in pants. She's had an insane breast reduction, like I'd be surprised if she's an B cup? And then there's it being written by some stupid bitch no name. They screw up her history.
There's this YouTuber girl called Casually Comics who talks about comics (duh), she's probably on the woke side but she always tiptoes very carefully around controversial topics of the kind, and when she talks about these things she's surprisingly careful and balanced in the points of view she explores (at least in what I've seen, which is not everything).

But get her talking about current Power Girl, and while she keeps her composed demeanor, you can sense the underlying seethe because she loves classic big titty PG with all of her weird story and personality. She's very critical of what they've been doing with her, and actually makes very good points about how they're trying to distinguish her from Supergirl BUT ALSO making them both follow essentially the same story beats, making both even more redundant.

Aside from that, I've noticed something I call Woman Comics: comics written by women or for women, in which the same structure always happens, there's a conflict, the woman is on the back foot, then overcomes it for no reason beyond "believing in herself", and then there's ALWAYS a moment where she's with another female character telling each other that they're like, so valid over a cup of tea or some other hot beverage, often watching over a sunset.
It's in Power Girl, it's in Scarlet Witch, it's in some recent-ish issues of X-Men, it's ALL OVER those Identity/Voices/Pride comics they keep putting out, etc.
 
There's this YouTuber girl called Casually Comics who talks about comics (duh), she's probably on the woke side but she always tiptoes very carefully around controversial topics of the kind, and when she talks about these things she's surprisingly careful and balanced in the points of view she explores (at least in what I've seen, which is not everything).

But get her talking about current Power Girl, and while she keeps her composed demeanor, you can sense the underlying seethe because she loves classic big titty PG with all of her weird story and personality. She's very critical of what they've been doing with her, and actually makes very good points about how they're trying to distinguish her from Supergirl BUT ALSO making them both follow essentially the same story beats, making both even more redundant.

Aside from that, I've noticed something I call Woman Comics: comics written by women or for women, in which the same structure always happens, there's a conflict, the woman is on the back foot, then overcomes it for no reason beyond "believing in herself", and then there's ALWAYS a moment where she's with another female character telling each other that they're like, so valid over a cup of tea or some other hot beverage, often watching over a sunset.
It's in Power Girl, it's in Scarlet Witch, it's in some recent-ish issues of X-Men, it's ALL OVER those Identity/Voices/Pride comics they keep putting out, etc.

I'm sad that the woke are doing for the curvy what they did to gingers.

Woman comics is as good a phrase as any. A lack of tension, because no threat is ever to severe.
 
Imagine my joy when I discovered there was a comic about H.P.Lovecraft by the same guy who did Watchmen and V for Vendetta.

Imagine my disappointment when I read the blurb about "explores the themes of racism and sexuality". And that FBI agents go undercover to infiltrate orgies and Alan Moore states his goal is to detail the "unspeakable rituals" that Lovecraft didn't describe because of his "sexual squeamishness". Right, because the 1920's was a time well receptive to writing detailed pornography featuring beastiality in mainstream magazines. Or maybe - just possibly - Lovecraft didn't think it appropriate to write detailed fish-on-woman sex scenes in the first place!

Think these were a few years but I follow comics a lot less than I do literature (*gasp* he said it!) and just came across his Lovecraft comics the other day.

*shudder*
 
Imagine my joy when I discovered there was a comic about H.P.Lovecraft by the same guy who did Watchmen and V for Vendetta.
Yeah, Moore really disappoints if you graph his career out in a way other contemporaries like Frank Miller or Walt Simonson.

V isn't that great...

Imagine my disappointment when I read the blurb about "explores the themes of racism and sexuality". And that FBI agents go undercover to infiltrate orgies and Alan Moore states his goal is to detail the "unspeakable rituals" that Lovecraft didn't describe because of his "sexual squeamishness". Right, because the 1920's was a time well receptive to writing detailed pornography featuring beastiality in mainstream magazines. Or maybe - just possibly - Lovecraft didn't think it appropriate to write detailed fish-on-woman sex scenes in the first place!

Lovecraft understood a crucial element to horror....the human imagination.

Think these were a few years but I follow comics a lot less than I do literature (*gasp* he said it!) and just came across his Lovecraft comics the other day.

*shudder*

It's funny how Moore can create truly egregious mockeries of literary figures, but no one should dare touch his work...

I recommend giving Gou tanabe's adaptation of Mountains of madness a try.
 
First issue of the The Sentry book I talked about recently just came out.

It's exactly what I said it would be.

Disabled POC woman as the obviously "good" Sentry candidate, racist blond white guy as the villain Sentry candidate (not even a twist, the first thing he does is show up and kill a black guy who's also a mutant).
 
First issue of the The Sentry book I talked about recently just came out.

It's exactly what I said it would be.

Disabled POC woman as the obviously "good" Sentry candidate, racist blond white guy as the villain Sentry candidate (not even a twist, the first thing he does is show up and kill a black guy who's also a mutant).

Oofff. No Paul Jenkins or Jae lee. They just literally....got some guy. Did he even read the series or understand why it worked? Probably not.

You know, In my head, I hope someone does an edit of those pages like muhphoenix. Black dude was literally a mutie terrorist right? I bet he totally was threatening to blow up school bus.
 
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