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Allow me to sperg for a moment.
On a whim, I put on a video on the background while I worked, about comparing the League of Extraordinary Gentlement comic to the movie. Not a great subject but just for noise, you know.
First thing I see is the guy wears his fingernails painted black. Bad sign.

Couple minutes in, and he's disraught at how racist O'Neill's drawings of Arabs and Chinese are. He actually said, out loud, that fucking faggot cliché of "What - and I cannot stress this enough - the fuck?".
-For one: it's a world made from old victorian literature, meant to reflect that, what the fuck does he want it to be made with the sensitivities of today? He even dismays about how "this was made in 1999, how did he think this was OK???".
-For another: Did you see how he draws the British? The French? How ugly and grotesque most characters are? Do Campion Bond's facial fat folds not immediately communicate that this style is not intended to be flattering?

And the comments, everyone panicking about Moore's penchant to include rape "SA" in his stories. How it's uncomfortable to see it. Yeah sit down on your fainting couch, you baby, it's not meant to be comfortable. Are opium dens comfortable to you? Cannibalism? You're not crying about those being portrayed, why only cry about rape, an element much more frequent both in world literature and world history than pretty much anything else other than murder.

I swear to god, and it's not news to anyone here but these people are the concerned Christian moms of today.

Nah. I hear this shit allot from gators of all stripes and it never ceases to piss me off

No SJWs aren't the religious right. The Religious Right, at its worst, was insisting that a five year old shouldn't be able to buy Grand Theft Auto; a game where you shoot police officers and regain health by fucking hookers; and that if Wal-Mart or Target sold songs by people like Eminem, who was boasting about murdering and burying his mother and fucking whores, that they should clearly mark these as adult. Companies hated Christians, rarely listened to them, and only ever rarely responded out of fear of backlash on their own; like with swamp thing in the 80s.

Frankly, in the wake of fucking tranny's grooming kids and faggots making everything about sex, I'd welcome the religious right. They were well meaning contrarians. Dan Brown's Angels and Demons is garbage, but inside it is a wonderful speech...

"Since the days of Galileo, the church has tried to slow the relentless march of science, sometimes with misguided means, but always with benevolent intention. Even so, the temptations are too great for man to resist. I warn you, look around yourselves. The promises of science have not been kept. Promises of efficiency and simplicity have bred nothing but pollution and chaos. We are a fractured and frantic species . . . moving down a path of destruction."

These people do not have benevolence toward others. They want to clip your dick off, fuck you, and make you miserable like them.

I actually liked Welcome Back Frank before it went off the rails with stupid shit like The Russian surviving decapitation, and Ma Gnucci being cloned. I've read .303 a couple of times, interesting story, but not my favorite by him. I do think that his Punisher MAX run is the best thing in comics though. Just amazing stuff, even if the artwork is lackluster during certain arcs. Howard Chaykin and Goran Parlov are definitely the artistic weak links in that series.

Well, your avatar makes sense then...

DC is releasing a new Powergirl by Jimmy and Amanda. It is, in typical DC tradition, a horrible collection omitting Supergirl #12, Wednesday Comics, and Terra 1-4 going off of solicits. Others have ranted about Terra and Jimmy and Amanda's weird fetishistic contribution. But with this feeling like the end of the line or a capstone on the couples time at DC, Amanda and Jimmy are older, white, heterosexuals and their is little reason for the company to hire them; I thought it was a time to examine the cancer that they became.

Amanda Conner is one of the greatest unsung indie talents of 90s. She had a flawed, but interesting run on Soulsearchers, a definitive run on Vampi with the foremost comic writing talent of the 90s and early 00s, before contributing part of the classic indie gem of the 90s Shi way of the warrior. I highly recommend reading these, seeing the talent, the expressions and movement she conveys. Where she fails is with her husband and his degenerate crowd. She winds up with Event comics. Those books are at best frat boy edge. They aren't particularly intelligent to similar low brow material. Had Conner continued with the Vertigo/Ellis and Event crowd, she likely would be a nobody today. However, she scored the gig drawing Geoff Johns Powergirl mini.

A wonderful four issue series ripe with humanity and depth, Geoff gave Amanda and Jimmy a character they could never have created (as there Nu52, DCyou work attests). They proceeded to crank out a character defining run on a cult classic character that had been done dirty by DC post crisis. It was largely vacuous, harmless, and buoyed by Amanda's artwork.

Then she 'hurt' her hand. I'm not going to go to far down the rabbit hole. Amanda Conner drew five or six issues worth of covers for DC comics a year for years when she allegedly couldn't draw. Not that her art was improving like it should. If anything, I'd say she's gotten worse.

But ultimately, the cancer that Amanda and Jimmy caused at DC. The neutering of the Joker. The lobotomy and laziness of Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy as well as the crass pandering it meant. The universe destroying stories. The damage to other characters like Starfire who because of the 'success' of HQ,, another cult character that pandered to thirsty simps and faggots got roped into it. I'd argue Jimmy and Amanda caused DCYou, inspired other talented artists to forgo monthly comics, and encouraged the state of comics. A sad legacy for a talented indy artist with the potential to have followed the likes of Kevin Maguire and Adam Hughes.
 
You talk as if the religious right didn't REEEEEEEEE for decades about rock and roll, heavy metal, comics, Dungeons and Dragons, Mortal Kombat, Pokemon, Harry Potter, anime, and so on and so forth.

I'd prefer no censorious moral crusaders of any kind, thanks
 
You talk as if the religious right didn't REEEEEEEEE for decades about rock and roll, heavy metal, comics, Dungeons and Dragons, Mortal Kombat, Pokemon, Harry Potter, anime, and so on and so forth.

I'd prefer no censorious moral crusaders of any kind, thanks

No, I specifically mentioned their activities. I contextualized them and explained why they were different.

but by all means. No moral debate or protest at all. Playboys in front of the juice boxes and trans reading time for kids. :semperfidelis:

Your position is more akin to people like Dick Masterson. Sometimes we need people saying no.
 
Imma echo myself from a bunch of pages back and say

READ DO A POWERBOMB! YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
I finally read the whole thing. It's very good. Warren Johnson is a much better storyteller than most people who have been making money writing comics since the 90s. I was afraid that this will be a competent but ultimately dime a dozen story that uses wrestling as window dressing. Instead, it draws upon elements typical to wrestling storylines and implements them well.
Warren Johnson manages to avoid typical pitfalls modern comics with female protagonists fall into. In hands of most writers, protagonists would devolve into typical competent arrogant female and pathetic male dynamic. Instead, both character are fleshed out and more than they seem at a first glance. Story if far gutsier than most American comics written today and it even draws on Greek tragedy and does it well. Same goes for the heavy topics the story touches. It even incorporates some levity and does so without undercutting the drama like MCU films tend to.

Art works well for action and establishing shots. Warren Johnson even knows how to use irregular-shaped panels and how to split panels for dramatic effect. These two techniques tend to be misused quite a bit by American artists. My only gripe with art is that it could be tighter for close-up panels. It's not a big issue for an action-heavy story like this. Vast majority of it is action and scenes that take place at distance. This is not a book full of copy-pasted talking heads.

How hard can it be to write a comicbook? Seriously, it's basically just official fanfiction. You can't possibly fuck up so hard but somehow the entire industry is killing itself in that department.
About as hard as writing anything else. The problem is that a lot of people writing comics:
1. Think that writing comics is filling up word balloons
2. Can only write superhero stories where two character punch each other until one of them wins
3. Can't write in general

A big problem is people in comics now didn't grow up with them and when they say they're fans, they just mean they watched some movies, or they heard about the character and thought they were interesting.
People like Didio, Slott, Waid, Rucka, Quesada, Simone, and many others did grow up reading comics. They are no better than the newer crop of writers who entered the industry in 2000s.

No SJWs aren't the religious right. The Religious Right, at its worst, was insisting that a five year old shouldn't be able to buy Grand Theft Auto; a game where you shoot police officers and regain health by fucking hookers; and that if Wal-Mart or Target sold songs by people like Eminem, who was boasting about murdering and burying his mother and fucking whores, that they should clearly mark these as adult. Companies hated Christians, rarely listened to them, and only ever rarely responded out of fear of backlash on their own; like with swamp thing in the 80s.
Right always had its own share of ideologues who want censorship as much as their lefty equivalents. Instead of whining about women and minorities they do so about protecting the children and about others not being prudish enough. Things like Hayes code were backed by religious institutions and conservative groups. Comic book burning events weren't held in places like New York but in Houston and Oklahoma City. These peoples' views are what influenced the comics code, down to even consider zombies, werewolves, and word "weird" to be too dangerous for general readership.
As recently as early 2000s, conservative groups like Parents Television and Media Council were trying to get shows like NYPD Blue taken off the air and lost their minds at less than one second of a nipple during superbowl halftime show in 2004. They had campaigns of mass-reports to FCC so networks get fined for airing shows that trigger fundies. PTMC and similar groups pioneered the tactic of going after advertisers and distributors to put pressure on media creators. Then leftists took it and adapted it for the age of social media.

For now, leftists are holding the dominant position but that might change. Their influence is waning a bit. In case of comics, there is more fanservice making its way into comic books lately than it was few years ago. Artists are not as afraid of posting risque art as they were back in 2013 - 2018, and sites like theMarySue.com and io9 are shadows of what they used to be. Hogwarts Legacy might be the turning point. Trannies' spergning about HL and harassment of people playing the game is stepping on too many toes. To the point that even people on the left are beginning to call out troons' bad behavior and toxicity in the LGBTQ community.
 
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About as hard as writing anything else. The problem is that a lot of people writing comics:
1. Think that writing comics is filling up word balloons
2. Can only write superhero stories where two character punch each other until one of them wins
3. Can't write in general
Word balloons are just dialogue. How hard is it to write a super hero story in worlds where damn near anything is possible? These people just can't write.
 
Right always had its own share of ideologues who want censorship as much as their lefty equivalents.

I mentioned 'censorship' but my point seems to have sailed past most that the SJWs are Jesus freaks is a bad equivalency lolbertarian coomers make.

Instead of whining about women and minorities they do so about protecting the children and about others not being prudish enough.

Soooo, your justification for comparing people grooming minors with sex change hormones and sexual preference, who are racists propagating the grievance stack is that social and cultural conservatives oppose attempts to expose children to said shit?

Good to know. Are we allowed to oppose rans storytime?

Also, prudish enough. It's a little vague. I'm trying to think back on my own negative experiences with the SoCons and, maybe It's because I'm old enough to remember the 90s, it was still a pretty racy era where people dressed how they want.

Things like Hayes code

Named after the head of the Motion Picture Association, Hayes purposed this self censorship in the 30s due to difficulty getting films approved for public distribution. It was later replaced in the 60s with the current age rating.

were backed by religious institutions and conservative groups.

Heaven forfend that catholics in the 30s after being approached should, when asked offer their opinion, give it. You omit that the studio heads could and did ignore or get around it when they felt like.

Truly this is the same as Gina Carano being blacklisted and unable to work for saying beep boop.

Comic book burning events weren't held in places like New York but in Houston and Oklahoma City. These peoples' views are what influenced the comics code, down to even consider zombies, werewolves, and word "weird" to be forbidden.

Comic book burning events. Are you talking about 1948? Do you have anything after the Regan era?

Again, Stan Lee and company created the code after Fredrick Wertham raked them over the coals.

The code was so stifling Spider-man, the Fantastic Four, and thousands of characters were created in one of the richest periods in American cartooning.

As recently as early 2000s, conservative groups like Parents Television and Media Council were trying to get shows like NYPD Blue taken off the air and lost their minds at less than one second of a nipple during superbowl halftime show in 2004.

The Super Bowl is a huge event that at the time was watched by millions. All ages, all faiths. And a woman exposed herself, without any forewarning on national television when said millions had signed up for a football game.


Okay, I went through your 'examples'. Maybe now you can actually read what I wrote.

I never denied the SoCons could be preachy, over reach, or annoying. But fuck man. Can you really not see a difference between a soccer mom pissed that she has to deal with junior getting exposed to drugs, violence, and sex before he's ready and someone who literally wants you to be unpersoned for a joke a decade ago?

the leftists are holding the dominant position but that might change.

It won't. The left controls and has controlled media and institutions since the 60s. They took them over and own them.

Even when they didn't, which are the time when you drew most of your examples, the right didn't make it so people couldn't work or make a living. They have different goals and did act differently.

Their influence is waning a bit.

Not seen any evidence of that.

In case of comics, there is more fanservice making its way into comic books than it was few years ago.

Yay, coom. They're letting us coom again.

That's all that matters in the end.

Artists are not as afraid of posting risque art as they were back in 2013 - 2018, and sites like theMarySue.com and io9 are shadows of what they used to be. Hogwarts Legacy might be the turning point. Trannies' spergning about HL and harassment of people playing the game is stepping on too many toes. To the point that even people on the left are beginning to call out troons' bad behavior and toxicity in the LGBTQ community.

And there we go. Coom and gay wizards. Well, I can't say it isn't earned.
 
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I didn't argue anywhere that conservatives are as bad or worse than troons and leftists. They are less bad overall but still a problem. Nonsense like being afraid of witchcraft, arguing for prayer over medical treatments, handing nearly all their money to pastors and trying to get others to do the same, and cultish behavior certain Christian groups engage in are not as bad as HRT but still far from good. I had to deal with fundamentalist Christians in early 2000s and being around them is about as exhausting as being around danger hairs. You need to tip-toe around both groups and I have seen fundamental Christians trying to get coworkers fired over metal band pins on a backpacks or over a suspicion of someone being a satanist because he wears black too often and another person over suspicions of her being catholic.
Getting people cancelled did not really become a thing until social media. Just like abusing FCC reporting system, and spamming sponsors and distributors wasn't a thing until the early 2000s and late 90s. Next wave of censorious nuts, be it from the left or the right, will probably come up with some other new tactic.

As to the examples I picked, they are simply the most obvious and ones leftists complained about the most when it came to comic books. There is more to them than coomer art. Back in 2016 people were getting in troubles with dangerhairs for covers like this:
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I struggled to find a proper descriptor for art that makes characters look appealing or uses old character designs that were too much for wokies, so I went with fanservice and risque.

As to the loosening grip on power, look at how stupid controversies where white people are getting attacked over having dreadlocks or nonsense like shirtgate died down since their peak in 2016. The case of HL is the first one where I actually saw a serious effort from the left to push back against troons. They used to blindly fall in line or keep their heads down until now. It's not limited to HP fandom. Even Keffals fanbase realized how awful their favorite troon is and began to push back. This looks like the light at the end of the tunnel for me but maybe I am too optimistic.
 
@jspit2.0
I didn't argue anywhere that conservatives are as bad or worse than troons and leftists.

The original poster posited that SJWs are just the new religious right. That is a common take from the current SJW blow back talking heads I've heard on YT and elsewhere.

It's dangerous because it doesn't get to why SJWs are so vile. They are destructive. They destroy lives, culture, and community. It places them in a unique position of cultural vandal in line with Mao Zedong China and the Islamists of the 21st century.

They are less bad overall but still a problem. Nonsense like being afraid of witchcraft, arguing for prayer over medical treatments, handing nearly all their money to pastors and trying to get others to do the same, and cultish behavior certain Christian groups engage in are not as bad as HRT but still far from good. I had to deal with fundamentalist Christians in early 2000s and being around them is about as exhausting as being around danger hairs. You need to tip-toe around both groups and I have seen fundamental Christians trying to get coworkers fired over metal band pins on a backpacks or over a suspicion of someone being a satanist because he wears black too often and another person over suspicions of her being catholic.

Yeah. I grew up with some of them around . I viewed them with contempt growing up and was fairly left wing socially by comparison. Then I grew up and watched the last decade happen.

Getting people cancelled did not really become a thing until social media. Just like abusing FCC reporting system, and spamming sponsors and distributors wasn't a thing until the early 2000s and late 90s. Next wave of censorious nuts, be it from the left or the right, will probably come up with some other new tactic.

The difference is in content and goals. Phylis Schflay may grate, but at the end of the day she was a wife and mother who wanted society not to influence her kids wrong. I'll take women like her over Anita Sarkeesian.

As to the examples I picked, they are simply the most obvious and ones leftists complained about the most when it came to comic books. There is more to them than coomer art. Back in 2016 people were getting in troubles with dangerhairs for covers like this:
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I struggled to find a proper descriptor for art that makes characters look appealing or uses old character designs that were too much for wokies, so I went with fanservice and risque.

I know. It's hard because SJWs started with those Christians, SoCons, and others. Bill Willingham really did a good job in Fables describing it. They went after the lion and we didn't care, because the lion was a preachy unlikeable cunt. Then they came for the T&A like in the Nu52 and we didn't protest because we weren't coomers. Then, finally, they went after J Scott Campbell for drawing a woman because, at their hearts, they are anti-humanists.

They oppose the human state. The beauty endowed it, either by God or nature depending on your belief in such things. They want to destroy the beautiful because, in the end, they are ugly inside and want you to feel ugly too.

As to the loosening grip on power, look at how stupid controversies where white people are getting attacked over having dreadlocks or nonsense like shirtgate died down since their peak in 2016. The case of HL is the first one where I actually saw a serious effort from the left to push back against troons. They used to blindly fall in line or keep their heads down until now. It's not limited to HP fandom. Even Keffals fanbase realized how awful their favorite troon is and began to push back. This looks like the light at the end of the tunnel for me but maybe I am too optimistic.

I hope you're right. At best to me it looks like a Civil War between two factions.
 
is Astro City worth reading? i've heard that Busiek and the book gets pozzed at some point but i'm still interested

Yes. The first volume is very good. Astro City is Busiek recycling failed pitches, either because of continuity or conflicting vision, and releasing them via knock offs of major characters. Alex Ross consults, drawing covers and designing characters. Which is why the costumes and universe are so well designed. Brent Anderson does the interiors and manages to realize them.

There's a batman/priest arc that is really good, a noir detective arc that's good, and the nearness of you that won the Eisner. As for the grating stuff, the one that really irritated me was the deconstruction of Lois lane/Superman with the dyke daughter and the lipstick feminism that was pretty cringe. There are others, but that's one that I remember really struggling to make it through.
 
Anyone remember Orc Stain? That was hyped to hell and back the last time I really cared about comics. At the time there was only one issue that people were gushing over and the focal point was cutting dicks.
 
Anyone remember Orc Stain? That was hyped to hell and back the last time I really cared about comics. At the time there was only one issue that people were gushing over and the focal point was cutting dicks.
I read that last year, the artwork is fantastic and the worldbuilding fairly original. Shame that there's only like 7 issues, i think it's a pretty good comic and would've liked to read more.
 
Anyone remember Orc Stain? That was hyped to hell and back the last time I really cared about comics. At the time there was only one issue that people were gushing over and the focal point was cutting dicks.
I do. It's how I learned about James Stokoe. He is one of the better people working in American comics today. Orc Stain a silly story not to be taken too seriously. It really plays up the dumb and violent orc element. To the point where every bit of orc tech and society involves death or mutilation. The visuals and overall creativity are great. They definitely carry the book and are Stokoe's strongest suit. Not to say that writing is bad. It's easily better than vast majority of American comics from the past decade or two.
I liked Sobek the most out of Stokoe's work so far. Aliens: Dead Orbit, Godzilla, and Orphan and the Five Beasts are all good and better overall than Orc Stain in my opinion. Wonton Soup got boring quick and is his weakest book. It's not surprising since this was Stokoe's first, full length comic where he was in charge of writing and art. He works best when writing miniseries and one-shots. His longer projects like Orc Stain and Wonton Soup tend to go into indefinite hiatus. OatFB might end up this way too.
 
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I've also been interested in that one but Busiek has never been able to grab me as a writer. I don't know what it is, I always find his work to be middling to boring.
I liked his Untold Tales of Spider-Man a lot but I don't have much exposure to him beyond that.

His Marvel stuff is his career highlight with Astro City. He's had a very fortunate career working with the top illustrators in comics.

He started out a simpering fanboy writing letters, including one protesting the Dark Phoenix saga I think? Then he wormed his way in as a coffee bitch boy, using that as his way to writing. He did some truly mediocre Wondy/Justice League and Power Man stuff in the 80s before he got his big break revamping Vampirella for Harris. He did a competent job and met Alex Ross, who he attached himself to. Busiek and Ross ran pitches that later became Marvels. I don't need to say, Ross became a rockstar in the 90s and the people attached to him got a bump.

Having 'given' Marvel a hit, Busiek would continue to get work, but a pattern emerged. He was a fanboy. Untold tales are him riffing on Spidey's history. His big moment came when Heroes Return happened and Marvel editorial, desperate not to be replaced, hired people based on success and not just connections.

He pitched Thunderbolts based around the Masters of Evil, he revamped Tony Stark with Sean Chen and Roger Stern, and due to having made pals with Perez, he got to write Avengers. (Seeing a pattern here?). His Avengers run is beloved because it's the last big run before Bendis. Geoff Johns had a solid, brief turn, Chuck Austen not so much and then Bendis came in and gutted the books.

Busiek sperged over Ultimates and insisted they not use the word Avengers when the other book launched, and eventually left Marvel entirely. From there he did a stint on Conan at DH. Some like it. He went to DC on an exclusive deal.

His DC stuff is mixed. You have Power Company, which I don't particularly care for. He did an 8 issue JLA arc that was meh. there was JLA/Avengers with Perez. Secret Identity, A superman elseworlds where he made Lois Lane an Indian girl. An Aquaman book that wasn't good. Finally, he had a run where he started off working with Geoff Johns and by the end was largely going in the opposite direction. It's largely decent. Nothing good nothing terrible. If you like Superman, you should enjoy it. He finally ended with Trinity, which was the culmination of his mainstream career. It was a 52 weekly with art by mark Bagley.

After that, he's more or less dipped out of mainstream comics over the prior decade with Batman creature of the night the exception. He did a project with Ross at Dynamite, relaunched Astro City.

Overall, I'd recommend his 90s Marvel stuff as his highlight and wouldn't recommend anything post Trinity. He's someone who's at his best finding great artistic partners and writing fanfic from when he was a reader.
 
His Marvel stuff is his career highlight with Astro City. He's had a very fortunate career working with the top illustrators in comics.

He started out a simpering fanboy writing letters, including one protesting the Dark Phoenix saga I think? Then he wormed his way in as a coffee bitch boy, using that as his way to writing. He did some truly mediocre Wondy/Justice League and Power Man stuff in the 80s before he got his big break revamping Vampirella for Harris. He did a competent job and met Alex Ross, who he attached himself to. Busiek and Ross ran pitches that later became Marvels. I don't need to say, Ross became a rockstar in the 90s and the people attached to him got a bump.

Having 'given' Marvel a hit, Busiek would continue to get work, but a pattern emerged. He was a fanboy. Untold tales are him riffing on Spidey's history. His big moment came when Heroes Return happened and Marvel editorial, desperate not to be replaced, hired people based on success and not just connections.

He pitched Thunderbolts based around the Masters of Evil, he revamped Tony Stark with Sean Chen and Roger Stern, and due to having made pals with Perez, he got to write Avengers. (Seeing a pattern here?). His Avengers run is beloved because it's the last big run before Bendis. Geoff Johns had a solid, brief turn, Chuck Austen not so much and then Bendis came in and gutted the books.

Busiek sperged over Ultimates and insisted they not use the word Avengers when the other book launched, and eventually left Marvel entirely. From there he did a stint on Conan at DH. Some like it. He went to DC on an exclusive deal.

His DC stuff is mixed. You have Power Company, which I don't particularly care for. He did an 8 issue JLA arc that was meh. there was JLA/Avengers with Perez. Secret Identity, A superman elseworlds where he made Lois Lane an Indian girl. An Aquaman book that wasn't good. Finally, he had a run where he started off working with Geoff Johns and by the end was largely going in the opposite direction. It's largely decent. Nothing good nothing terrible. If you like Superman, you should enjoy it. He finally ended with Trinity, which was the culmination of his mainstream career. It was a 52 weekly with art by mark Bagley.

After that, he's more or less dipped out of mainstream comics over the prior decade with Batman creature of the night the exception. He did a project with Ross at Dynamite, relaunched Astro City.

Overall, I'd recommend his 90s Marvel stuff as his highlight and wouldn't recommend anything post Trinity. He's someone who's at his best finding great artistic partners and writing fanfic from when he was a reader.
yeah i enjoy busiek but his post trinity stuff ain't that great.

i think he does have a love for the genre and that brings more to the industry than whatever bullshit the retarded writers do.
 
Secret Identity, A superman elseworlds where he made Lois Lane an Indian girl.
Should be noted no one in that story is a version of any actual Superman character. It's about a kind who's called Clark Kent, because his parents thought it'd be funny to name him after the character, so of course he hates it. He gains Superman-like powers for reasons that are later explained, but he's not an alien. The Lois he marries is just a woman called Lois, because his friends were constantly setting him up with Loises and Lanas.

It's an interesting take on the impact of the character in a world where he's fictional, but still inspires the creation of a real Superman.
 
Did Chuck Dixon have any good Marvel runs? I love all his DC stuff that I've read, so I know he isn't a bad writer, but right now I'm reading his Marvel Knights series (the one with Daredevi's unnamed team of himself, Widow, Punisher, Shang-Chi, and Cloak & Dagger) and it's... really bland. I know Doug Moench fucking loathes Dixon's Moon Knight run and has no problem bad mouthing it, though I've always wondered if it's due to Dixon's politics given that Moench is a hardcore leftist.
 
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