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Damn, I need to check this out.
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Should add some context; John Constantine was explicitly based on Sting visually due to Alan Moore having a huge mancrush on Gordon Summer aka Sting who at the time was still with the band Police.
Steve Bissette, who drew the bulk of Moore's Swamp Thing run, was also a Sting/The Police fanboy and in Swamp Thing #25 inserted a Sting lookalike into the background of the issue. And after that, Bissette and Moore, wanting to introduce their own "Magic Realism" type character into Swamp Thing (as the whole literary subgenre of magical realism was kicking off into high gear in the UK horror scene at the time) and decided to basically make a character who was a literal double of Sting called John Constantine.
(His first appearance is a bit controversial: canonically, Constantine debuts in Swamp Thing #37, with his second appearance being Crisis On Infinite Earths #4. But due to DC changing shipping dates at the last minute, Crisis On Infinite Earths #4 came out weeks before Swamp Thing #37. Adding to this, years later when people noticed the Sting lookalike in Swamp Thing #25, Bissette (and just Bissette I should note) retroactively declared that the Sting lookalike WAS Constantine after all! As such, Swamp Thing #25 is a book is a lot of people consider to be the "first cameo" appearance of Constantine and can go for huge money (around $300-500), with Swamp Thing #37 as his first proper appearance (and going for $200-400). Ironically Crisis On Infinite Earths #4 NEVER saw an increase in value from Constantine's appearance.)
Also for additional fun fact: Sting the musician NEVER trademarked his moniker, which is why we have a wrestler named Sting. Steve Borden, aka Sting, DID trademark the name when he started wrestling under it and Sting the musician only found out a little later on about it. Luckily Borden was a huge fan of Sting the musician and offered a deal where Gordon Sumner basically pays Borden $1 a year to be allowed to use the Sting name as his stage name.
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Spawn sucks. The art was garbage in the new issues, the plot nonsensical, and really if ANY book could use a hard reboot, it's Spawn. Start the series from scratch and also get another artist who can either emulate Todd or Capullo. And Todd's DC figures fucking SUCK DONKEY BALLS due to Todd's egomania: he INSISTS that his figures be in 7 inch scale simply so he can dickwave about how "bigger and thus better" his toys are to Marvel Legends and the old DC Universe Classic line, along with his knuckle dragging on doing female characters outside Wonder Woman and Batgirl and his eternal garbage hatred for toys with articulation as all of his shit has to be statue shit that can barely be posed.
Also, Monster is basically an aborted Hulk origin story graphic novel that got repurposed to be an original work by Smith after Bill Mantlo beat him to the punch by doing a story on Hulk's abusive childhood and his dad killing his mom. It was in development hell for decades until he finally released it last year.
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since it was brought up and john is my favorite character, here.
i honestly wouldn't read that much into it. Moore was probably just drunk and had a weird experience and then other writers jumped onto it as well.
i honestly wouldn't read that much into it. Moore was probably just drunk and had a weird experience and then other writers jumped onto it as well.
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I've always interpreted this story (I read about it when I was in high school) being Moore just rambling about the nature of the character himself, not an actual event he experienced and other people were too retarded to not take him seriously. Like Constantine being who he is sort of drifts in and out doing whatever magick bullshit he's involved in that day, and so seeing a dude look like that and look at him irl to Moore was probably weird in the "that's exactly how he'd be" type of way. and bc he's nuts people took that seriously, or other writers said they experienced similar situations as just promotional kayfabe
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So, I am currently reading old school comics right now with the first right now being Thor. I was shocked to see that the first adversaries that Thor goes up against is communists. The best is how after the communist leader is defeated he tries to run off with as much money and gold that he can get his hands on before he is gunned down by his own men. It is pretty based. You will never see that today. Instead the communist will be the good guys and either gay or trans. Things truly were better in the good old days.
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I was listening to one of Alan Moore's spoken word albums and in it he describes watching his friend Steve Moore i belive his name was conjuring his tulpa or imaginary girlfriend and having sex or making out with her while sitting in a chair, anyone know what i'm talking about?
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Doesn't make sense to me. The companies that make statues use "polystone", not plastic. I read some glassdoor reviews on his company (all fanboys should be required to do this) and his [ex-]employees say he's behind the times too. Poor Todd. He used to be so relevant. He still manages to hire some talented people though.
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I still get a kick out of the MCU being built on one of those stories, Iron Man satiating post-911 bloodlust by literally slaughtering a Taliban cell. That was the last, glorious hurrah of those classic stories.
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Now that Moore has decided to be a part of a BBC web thingy its time to reask the question "Has Alan Moore produced anything good in 20 years?"
(i know this has probably been asked but i want to see the takes again)
just the entire phase one and phase two are so of their time with their values that they truely couldn't be made today. the Hulk destroys Harlem with no one giving a fuck; thors white male adventures. ScarJo's different "love interest" in each film. It also shows how quickly clown world came to being. its not like the bond films have massively different values between goldfinger and octopussy.
I'm honestly surprised we dont have more thinkpieces about that, especially because if you're watching iron man with your kids nowadays its going to be the first time such casual sexuality by a leading man would probably have been seen by them, its basically the only time in the entire MCU too; Hulk is a volcel because of the whole heart rate thing. (its actually a pretty great film), just films in general don't have the sort of sex stuff that were more common in the 2000s, like with Transformers.
(i know this has probably been asked but i want to see the takes again)
just cultural trends in general make the first Iron Man seem like a right wing knock off of the MCU. the stripper/airline stewardesses; the killing of a taliban stand in, even if they were working for his 2nd in command. He even fucks some lippy journalist cunt and has his female assisstant throw her out.
just the entire phase one and phase two are so of their time with their values that they truely couldn't be made today. the Hulk destroys Harlem with no one giving a fuck; thors white male adventures. ScarJo's different "love interest" in each film. It also shows how quickly clown world came to being. its not like the bond films have massively different values between goldfinger and octopussy.
I'm honestly surprised we dont have more thinkpieces about that, especially because if you're watching iron man with your kids nowadays its going to be the first time such casual sexuality by a leading man would probably have been seen by them, its basically the only time in the entire MCU too; Hulk is a volcel because of the whole heart rate thing. (its actually a pretty great film), just films in general don't have the sort of sex stuff that were more common in the 2000s, like with Transformers.
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It's pretty good. I do not understand why "Monsters" did not get the same push "My Favorite Thing Is Monsters" got. When fantagraphics has an actual good book on their hands it only has token support, but forgettable misery porn like MFTIM gets articles, top lists, news coverage, interviews, and even some social media astroturfing. I wonder if Fantagraphics does things like Image where the bulk of promotion is left to the creator.
He did. I enjoyed his ABC stuff from early to mid/late 00s. Top10, Tom Strong, and Promethea are worth reading. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was much weaker, and it only got worse the longer it ran. I do not know why it was the most popular out of Moore's 2000s comics. Maybe it was due to the steampunk fad being at its peak back then. Moore put out some other stinkers during that era too. Lost Girls was probably the most embarrassing.
I don't think anything Moore wrote post 2008 is good. His name on anything from the last 15 years might as well be Kieron Gillen or some other run of the mill British hack. I especially dislike Moore's takes on Lovercraft.
First Iron Man was like this because Marvel gave Jon Favreau a lot of creative control. Favreau said multiple times that he was inspired by James Bond, Tom Clancy's work, and Tom Altman's output. A lot of the film was improvised, script was not fully done before filming, and many of the most memorable lines are just Downey Jr .riffing with Bridges and Howard. Marvel execs were stressed by the ad-hoc nature of the film. They did not interfere much probably because they did not know enough about making movies and were desperate enough to take a risk.
Marvel got much more hands on by the time second Iron Man was getting made. That's why that film feels much more formulaic and as if it was written by committee. Favreau still managed to cram in some of the edge the first film had. It's not surprising that the third film was made by Shane Black instead and that Edgar Wright left Ant-Man.
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Iron Man 1’s sheer commitment to edge, grit, reality and criticism of the war really puts it above it’s contemporaries.
The Tony Stark from that first movie is not the one from the rest of the MCU, that Tony is a haunted man who learned from his mistakes and honoured Yinsen’s sacrifice. The Tony from everything else is a two-bit joke who doesn’t learn and is a burden to those around him, more accurate to the comics in that way I suppose.
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Todd has always held action figures in low regard and his view of toys have always been "statue first, toy second". Hence his toys 99.9% of the time being created in fixed poses with limited articulation for people to actually fucking play with or put into different poses than what Todd allows. As such, his toys are historically garbage; pretty to look at from a distance but when in hand are literal statue-shit with awkward cuts for bare minimum posing if at that.
It's one of the reasons why Todd's toy company went downhill once Toy Biz started making Marvel Legends, which offered god-tier posing without sacrificing design and playability.
Iron Man 2 was hampered HARD by the fact that Favreau intended to adapt Demon In a Bottle but was told point blank that he was banned from making Tony an alcoholic because the MPAA had told Disney that they would immediately slap the film with an R-Rating due to the MPAA thinking "super-heroes=kids" and that doing a story with a super-hero having a drinking problem was NOT going to be allowed by the ratings board PERIOD unless they accepted an R-Rating.
I have an Ollies where I live and only was able to find the last Preacher volume. Ollies is great for getting trades dirt cheap but it's super fucking hit or miss what your store will get in stock.
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Nigger, look at early Marvel Legends. They sacrificed everything for posability.
You just can’t accept that the Toddfather owns one of the few companies not taking advantage of the Bidenflation.
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Todd is much like George Lucas in that he is a very smart business man. He understands his customer base. I remember a interview he did a while ago where he says that when you go into comics and action figures you have to go in with the mindset of a young boy. Todd also said the one thing that many others right now are afraid of saying, that most girls are not interested in comics and action figures and that female action figures don't really sell well. He talked about how hard it was to sell female action figures unless they were collectors editions and that most of his customers are males. Which is why he doesn't do a entire line of female characters and sell them at the boys toy aisle and said that it is called the boys toy aisle for a reason.
This caused a mass freak out with the danger hairs and trannies on Twitter. But don't take Todd's word for it. How well those Black Widow, Captain Marvel and Rey Skywalker figures selling?
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Todd was talking out of his ass and spewing dogshit about female figures not selling/appealing to boys.
Boys WILL buy female action figures IF the character is cool/interesting and attractive. It's why Scarlet Witch and Black Widow are among the top selling Marvel action figures, with Widow's movie figures and the various Wanda figures (Comic and MCU/Wandavision themed) being insanely popular and highly in demand, let alone X-Men female characters like Rogue, Storm, Polaris, Jean Grey, etc.
Garbage characters like Carol Danvers and Rey don't fucking sell because they are shitty characters.
Todd is just a pissy Batman only faggot who has made it quiet clear he only wants to make Batman characters, filling the line with evil Batman types from Metal/Death Metal to avoid actually fucking making characters people DO want... like a proper classic Wonder Woman or any other DC female characters not tied to the Batman franchise.
His getting the DC license has been an utter and complete nightmare of epic proportions and his output the biggest modern example of failure and AIDS to ever hit action figures since Disco Skeletor.
Boys WILL buy female action figures IF the character is cool/interesting and attractive. It's why Scarlet Witch and Black Widow are among the top selling Marvel action figures, with Widow's movie figures and the various Wanda figures (Comic and MCU/Wandavision themed) being insanely popular and highly in demand, let alone X-Men female characters like Rogue, Storm, Polaris, Jean Grey, etc.
Garbage characters like Carol Danvers and Rey don't fucking sell because they are shitty characters.
Todd is just a pissy Batman only faggot who has made it quiet clear he only wants to make Batman characters, filling the line with evil Batman types from Metal/Death Metal to avoid actually fucking making characters people DO want... like a proper classic Wonder Woman or any other DC female characters not tied to the Batman franchise.
His getting the DC license has been an utter and complete nightmare of epic proportions and his output the biggest modern example of failure and AIDS to ever hit action figures since Disco Skeletor.
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I remember him outright name-dropping Eternals merchandise as an example of merchandise that didn’t sell. I love his willingness to shit on the competition and play a bit dirty. I hope he makes that “weapons pack” just to get past DC’s retarded rule and in the process make more money off their stupid asses.
@MirrorNoir , cope and seethe. Todd got that sales award and he’s gonna get it again for being the best.
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not to ramble about the MCU but before Endgame came out a friend and I rewatched all of them a couple movies a weekend until it came out (barring thor ragnarok and iron man 3 because we both find them unwatchable, and I think Captain Marvel had just come out we saw that somewhere in there) but I realized something watching those. until civil war, tony stark has the EXACT same character arc as in iron man 1 in literally every movie after that. he's a douche who does bad shit and becomes a hero by the end. it only works in im1 because it's good, and in the sequels and first two avengers not just is it repetitive bullshit but also not written as good
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I just saw those panels.
Is Zeb Wells (the writer) a Joe Quesada simp?
I feel like I'm reliving 2007, again, because I'm having One More Day flashbacks.
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