Space Jam A New Legacy - From Black Panther to Bugs Bunny

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Does the original Space Jam hold up?

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The Last Stand said:
Turner owns the rights to it for broadcasting.
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They do, but Boomerang became a separate channel you have to pay extra to get, so for sure that cut down on viewership.

The soyalorian said:
Also I really hope that kid doesn't draw that shitty in real life. (He probably does and is probably up his own ass just like his dad)
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The actor's like no older than 11, give him a free pass. (No word on if LeBron's real son, Bryce, is an artist himself.)
 
They could have saved themselves several million dollars if the film were just a close-up of James Lebron's face while he says, "I'm better than you," with the text, "GET HBO MAX TODAY!" imposed underneath his chin for 2 hours.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
They do, but Boomerang became a separate channel you have to pay extra to get, so for sure that cut down on viewership.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, if you get CN, you get Boomerang. I do not know if cable packages changed.

I remember when Looney Tunes would air on weekdays at noon for an hour. That would be about ten, fifteen years ago. Times have changed so I guess now Looney Tunes are delegated to the sister channel. I don't have cable.
 
Flaming Carrot said:
I agree with Del Toro that they should release the movie, but what's weird about all of this is that it did have a home video release in the 80s on VHS. I'm not sure why they're so skittish about re-releasing it when the United States is overall less religious than the 80s, not to mention that it's not just some exploitation film. It won awards. It's based on a true story. Even if Warner's did want to release it themselves, they could easily license it to someone like Severin or Arrow Films.
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My theory is that Warner Bros. has dealings with the Vatican Bank and the Vatican has forbidden them from releasing the movie.
 
The Last Stand said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, if you get CN, you get Boomerang. I do not know if cable packages changed.

I remember when Looney Tunes would air on weekdays at noon for an hour. That would be about ten, fifteen years ago. Times have changed so I guess now Looney Tunes are delegated to the sister channel. I don't have cable.
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Nope. Only time I've ever had that happen was when I briefly switched to Direct TV instead of Xfinity. CN was almost always in like the second lowest tier cable packages while Boomerang was in one of the midhigh tiers.
 
The Last Stand said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, if you get CN, you get Boomerang. I do not know if cable packages changed.

I remember when Looney Tunes would air on weekdays at noon for an hour. That would be about ten, fifteen years ago. Times have changed so I guess now Looney Tunes are delegated to the sister channel. I don't have cable.
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No, Boomerang's almost always put on a more expensive package than CN. Usually, it's put on some high-tier cable package full of channels nobody gives a crap about.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
They do, but Boomerang became a separate channel you have to pay extra to get, so for sure that cut down on viewership.


The actor's like no older than 11, give him a free pass. (No word on if LeBron's real son, Bryce, is an artist himself.)
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The fact that Boomerang isn't a basic channel anymore and that Cartoon Network stopped airing old cartoons outside of Tom & Jerry and Scooby Doo is probably what's caused so many old cartoons, and even ones from as recent as the 80s and 90s, to fall into irrelevancy or obscurity (same with some live action stuff too). Back in the 90s they were still big because they aired so regularly. Now though they're completely locked on Boomerang, go unpromoted on streaming services or are given to obscure services like MeTV. Ironically Tom & Jerry are bigger than ever thanks to the fact that they're the only classic cartoons that are still aired regularly (even overseas) and Scooby Doo too to a degree with its old cartoon still airing and getting a new godawful movie every year or so (although of all old media, Scooby Doo is the one thing that deserved to die decades ago), and even Transformers, GI Joe and He-Man crap have remained relevant thanks to their toylines and cartoons still airing even when the new movies got released and airing prominently on some channel called the Hub. Only place where old cartoons are still relevant are south of the border, especially in South America where classic live action and cartoon reruns of old shows are still aired regularly to the point where latinos got a fucking Top Cat movie years back.

This is also a problem with classic golden age movies or even silent ones which are entirely locked into TCM, which is also part of the fucking expensive cable packages, and nobody's going to pay extra to have a bunch of garbage channels just to get two decent ones.

Warner Media is desperate to try and bring these old characters back into relevancy, especially now when they make up the bulk of their new streaming service, but can't seem to comprehend the most basic reason why they're not relevant anymore.
 
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The history of Looney Tunes cartoons on TV is...complicated. WB sold the pre-1948 cartoons off to separate companies (Associated Artists Productions for the color cartoons, Sunset Productions for black and white) while keeping the rest for themselves. These post-1948 cartoons ran heavily on Saturday mornings for decades, mainly the more popular ones with the rest running in syndicated packages. The pre-1948 stuff ran in separate syndication packages well before the newer stuff.

By the 80s, the dynamic had changed a bit. The B&W cartoons had been acquired by a company called Seven Arts Productions, which merged with WB in 1967, putting those cartoons back in the WB fold. AAP, meanwhile, was bought out by United Artists, which was itself bought out by MGM after Heaven's Gate bombed. That library was taken by Ted Turner during his short-lived ownership of the combined company, and when he sold the whole lot back, he kept much of the library, including the color Looney Tunes. As for WB's own packages, in the 90s they were split between ABC on Saturday mornings (I remember this particularly well), Nickelodeon, and a weekday package of cartoons that was initially syndicated, then moved to Fox before becoming part of Kids WB's initial lineup. The Turner package, meanwhile, became a linchpin for the launch of Cartoon Network in 1992.

Then, Time Warner bought Turner, bringing all the Looney Tunes cartoons together under one roof. The Kids' WB and CN packages were immediately merged together, and from there, WB started pulling the shorts from all non-CN sources. Nickelodeon dropped its package in 1999, Kids' WB phased out the shorts as the Pokemon craze was in full swing, and ABC ended its LT show in the fall of 1999, and the shorts would remain exclusive to the Turner networks from that point on until earlier this year, when MeTV began running the shorts.

TL;DR - WB sold off the old shorts, then got them back through a series of corporate buyouts. They used to be everywhere, but they were relegated to CN and Boomerang in the new millennium.
 
Kang James looks like something that would come out of someone having fun with the character creator in Oblivion. How are people born with facial features that enlarged?

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It is actually hilarious how much they kiss Lebron's ass in this. Dude is so fucking fragile.

Meanwhile, while the original Space Jam was not some great movie. I always enjoyed how it showed MJ as just a normal dude most times.

He just goes golfing on the weekends, spends time with his family and is struggling with a minor mid-life crisis after leaving the NBA for the first time and sucking at baseball.

Only the Toons really kiss his ass but even then he downplays it.

Also this film does not have Bill Murray and MJ teaming up. Nothing tops that.

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KEKMUHLORD said:
It is actually hilarious how much they kiss Lebron's ass in this. Dude is so fucking fragile.

Meanwhile, while the original Space Jam was not some great movie. I always enjoyed how it show MJ as just a normal dude most times.

He just goes golfing on the weekends, spends time with his family and is struggling with a minor mid-life crisis after leaving the NBA for the first time and sucking at baseball.

Only the Toons really kiss his ass but even then he downplays it.

Also this film does not have Bill Murray and MJ teaming up. Nothing tops that.

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God knows this thing could've used something like his role in Zombieland.

"Do you have any regrets?"
"Garfield, maybe."
 
KEKMUHLORD said:
It is actually hilarious how much they kiss Lebron's ass in this. Dude is so fucking fragile.

Meanwhile, while the original Space Jam was not some great movie. I always enjoyed how it show MJ as just a normal dude most times.

He just goes golfing on the weekends, spends time with his family and is struggling with a minor mid-life crisis after leaving the NBA for the first time and sucking at baseball.

Only the Toons really kiss his ass but even then he downplays it.

Also this film does not have Bill Murray and MJ teaming up. Nothing tops that.

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It's pretty sad that the best Live Action Looney Tunes movie is Space Jam by default. Altogether, there's been 3 attempts. Back in Action sucked.
 
Admiral Mantoid said:
The fact that Boomerang isn't a basic channel anymore and that Cartoon Network stopped airing old cartoons outside of Tom & Jerry and Scooby Doo is probably what's caused so many old cartoons, and even ones from as recent as the 80s and 90s, to fall into irrelevancy or obscurity (same with some live action stuff too).
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Kids these days aren't watching linear television. Streaming is king and the HBO Max and Boomerang services are doing good jobs of promoting all the classic Warner's, Hanna-Barbera and MGM cartoons. The WB Kids YouTube channel (which has 18 million subscribers) also regularly uploads classic Looney Tunes clips.
 
Lebron has no reason to be this full of himself. His talent is being tall and throwing a ball. If people are idolizing you solely for your physical abilities, then that means you have nothing else going on in there that's worthwhile.

That's what I hate about sports culture. Sports are great. They value physical aptitude, teamwork, and integrity. But mindlessly worshipping pure brawn with no intellect or humility is completely shallow and worthless in the long-run.
 
If you think about it, calling the Space Jam movie “A New Legacy” sounds like an oxymoron. This is the definition(s) of the word “legacy”:

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The last part of that definition seems to go against everything that this movie, and what Warner Bros., represent.

Forget late-stage capitalism; this movie is an brutal example of late-stage product consumerism.
 
Muttnik said:
That's what I hate about sports culture. Sports are great. They value physical aptitude, teamwork, and integrity. But mindlessly worshipping pure brawn with no intellect or humility is completely shallow and worthless in the long-run.
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There's also the millions upon millions of dollars major athletes get every year, some of which get for barely even contributing to their team.
 
BrunoMattei said:
It's pretty sad that the best Live Action Looney Tunes movie is Space Jam by default. Altogether, there's been 3 attempts. Back in Action sucked.
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Only good Looney Tunes movie I can think of in terms of writing was a DTV one called Tweety's High Flying Adventure. Its not grand, but its gold compared to its piers with an actual coherent plot and painful cartoon violence in excess. Back in Action was pretty bad, but the scene with cartoon characters in the dining room and the Area 51 scene always get me.

Also apparently Wile E. Coyote will be getting his own movie in 2023... I can't even imagine how they can make that work for 2 hours. You'd have a better chance making a movie about Duck Dodgers, Speedy Gonzales or Granny being a detective again.
 
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