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LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
I didn't knew it was this bad. This game looks super fucking cringe, holy shit. The protagonist looks pretty ugly too, the character animations are fucked.
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Most of the ugliness seems to come from the lighting, watching the digital foundry video they said it's a step back from FF15's and looks closer to a 360 game with it's bloom usage. They also questioned why they didn't just do pre-baked lighting if they didn't want to do more advance lighting tec, as not like the game has a time of day system.

Also here is a image of how the actress looks in real life.
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Product Placement said:
They also questioned why they didn't just do pre-baked lighting if they didn't want to do more advance lighting tec
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Incompetence. Baked lighting requires clean asset creation and proper lightmap UVs, it also requires compression, since its a high resolution texture map. Apparently compression no longer exists since every game nowadays is over 100gb and uses uncompressed audio and textures. The reason games don't use baked lighting anymore is because it requires work to properly scale lightmap UVs according to gameplay areas, and instead they can just use dynamic lighting and get 'better' looking results for no work.

Half-Life Alyx is the only modern game I can really think of that properly used baked lighting. The entire game, by virtue of being VR, was made using old tried and true techniques instead of 'modern' screen space heavy post processing and high detail density textures. Instead relying entirely upon the art direction. The game looks real some times, just because of the baked lighting (which is not to say they don't still use dynamic lighting, when required).
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The era of AAA hollywood games for journo dumbasses to jerk off to is also ending, according to Flopspoken's review score (and sales data hopefully).
 
Product Placement said:
Most of the ugliness seems to come from the lighting, watching the digital foundry video they said it's a step back from FF15's and looks closer to a 360 game with it's bloom usage. They also questioned why they didn't just do pre-baked lighting if they didn't want to do more advance lighting tec, as not like the game has a time of day system.

Also here is a image of how the actress looks in real life.
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Nice. Now let's see her without makeup.
 
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
I didn't knew it was this bad. This game looks super fucking cringe, holy shit. The protagonist looks pretty ugly too, the character animations are fucked.
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Putting the cringe dialog aside, I can not believe how bad this game looks.
If someone asked me what console this game came out on with no context I would probably say it was a poorly made PS4 launch title.
 
ZMOT said:
it did fail? last I've checked everyone was going reddit over it because LE RICK AND MORTY. or was it because the dude turned out to be another retarded sex pest?

seriously curious, didn't see anything about it.
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You go on any video on High on Life and everybody complains about how the characters won't stop talking. Like Forespoken the game also features a option to make the characters talk less. Shakespeare once said; "Brevity is the soul of wit." Sadly such a concept is lost on most writers today. I don't know what it is but modern writers feel the need to make characters talk endlessly about useless bullshit. It's more garbage that was created by the MCU and the sooner writers stop trying to ape off the MCU the better.
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
No, no, the writting is good, actually.


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Western writers really don't want to admit that their writing is bad nowadays. "No! The audience are just bigots who fail to understand our genius!"
Fuck off. A bad game is a bad game. Maybe now writers will stop trying to ape off the MCU and maybe get inspiration from things that are actually good like classic books and world mythology but I'm not holding my breathe.
Edit: I would also add that Rick & Morty has also been a bane for writers too in how to write flawed and unlikable characters.
zyclonPD said:
No, it couldn't be the writing, no way.
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"The era of white male games for white male gamers is ending!"
I'm a female gamer who has been playing video games for over 24 years. In my time gaming I have played games with people the world over. However, not once have I come across a black female gamer. I am sure they are out there but it is easier to come across a tranny gamer than a black female gamer. Also, games were never made for white men but rather male gamers from all races. Gaming was prominently a male power fantasy. That is not to say that girls can't have fun with these games but most girls, of all races, tend to avoid violent games as they don't really like violence. They instead gravitate towards games like The Sims. Sure, there is rare cases like Tomb Raider but that was lighting in a bottle.
A game like Forespoken was never going to attract that coveted female audience. Most women tend to not really be interested in fantasy unless it is a drama like House of the Dragon or a romantic fantasy like the numerous books you see in the Barnes & Noble romance section. A isekai fantasy game featuring a female protagonist where there is no real drama or romance was never going to attract a female audience.
 
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I saw footage of the fucking forespoken game and it's just more "insufferable shitbag learns nothing treats the people she's saving like shit and then the armband spirit guy that was helping her save the day is the twist evil guy demon the whole time!!!" And it's not like a gradual thing where he gets annoyed with being treated bad by the little shit and snaps or anything no it's just "actually I was always evil now die please haha".It makes no god damn sense in the same way a few other things that do the same shit make no fucking sense. The fact the dialogue is not meant to be a "haha what an asshole this kid is" thing but a thing where she's unironically supposed to be the cool and good one is just so fucking unsettling but also unintentionally funny.

EDIT: I just realized what the dialogue reminds me of. It reminds me of a bootleg skinwalker corporate fascimile of jack black-isms without the charisma or self aware ironic yet genuine humor of jack black. Really funny considering there was that jack black isekai game over a decade back that was apparently actually pretty good save for the rough gameplay changes towards the end of it.

RangerBoo said:
not once have I come across a black female gamer.
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I knew one like a decade ago or so that went to my school and was fucking obsessed with assassins creed it was kinda funny. Kinda wonder if she's been sucked into idpol current year shit i kinda lost touch with everyone i either kinda sorta knew enough to talk with or knew well back then.

EDITX2 CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THIS THE TEXT MOUND CLIMBS:
Raging Capybara said:
High on Life was a hit because it was on gamepass. Nobody spent money on this shit.
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High on life is a fucking masterpiece compared to this game. It's main problem people had with it was the characters wouldn't fucking stop talking due to the writers basically just ad libbing and throwing all dialogue "funny" ideas at the wall. If you don't got a tolerance for that thing you will fucking die playing it. Honestly I'd probably be the kinda dumbass who'd like that kinda shit because of how stupid it is of a concept. Not for 60 dollars but for free? Jesus christ yeah absolutely. Don't have an xbox though so I'll just have to watch people suffer mental trauma from playing it and laugh.

High on life ultimately succeeds because it doesnt take itself seriously.it's a comedy game, essentially the people behind it's elaborate personal shitpost project. .Forespoken though? you're supposed to take forespoken seriously. they just throw super serious shit at you while the MC is an insufferable little shit. The only attempts it does for "funny" is the "RELATABLE!!!" shit from the trailers.
 
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The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
"Trapped in another world" stories far predate "isekai", so it doesn't bother me that this isn't particularly Japanese in its cultural aesthetic. The real issue is that the main character is so terrible, that it drags the whole story down.
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No argument whatsoever on that point. While there are western stories that use the "transferred to another world" scenario like Alice In Wonderland, Peter Pan, The Wizard of OZ, The Chronicles of Narnia, etc, these seem more aimed at being children stories because they all star children, meanwhile the current trend of Japanese "Isekai" just seems to keep pouring out an endless stream of stories exploring all sort of scenarios and a variety of character archetypes that the Japanese can justifiably claim "Isekai" as something they have explored more .

Regardless, all of this effort making this game is wasted on such a poorly thought out script and sincerely awfully written main character and to add further twist to the knife, Frey is one of the worst character designs I've seen from a AAA studio in recent memory. look at this crap:

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Frey looks like a hobo who raided a dumpster full of dirty carpets and granny curtains found in an abandoned storage locker. The player is going to be looking at this character's back for hours and this is what you are getting: an inconsistent bundle of fabrics flopping about as she moves all over the screen. She also has this disheveled rat's nest of a hair style and a complete lack of femininity in her body proportions and motions just makes her character design an unsightly mess.

Solid character design, visual consistency, aesthetics and indeed beauty factor a lot for me when I'm choosing the games I want to spend time playing. Frei is purposefully designed with "modern western sensibilities" spurred on by industry grifters and the end result is visual garbage.

Also, reviews are pointing out how repetitive and boring is the combat and the world so not even the gameplay is a saving grace. I'm never picking this up, not even if offered to me for free.
 
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I think most people don't have the right to criticize Flopoken, it just feels hypocritical at this point.

I remember when Guardians of The Galaxy came out, it received overwhelming praise from everyone, including nerds and gamers alike, but despite its writing being dogshit no one seemed to have realized it? Bullshit, people are way too harsh to games but make a pass to films and TV all the time, it's really tiresome.

In Guardians, the good guy defeats the bad dude by doing a TikTok dance, when TikTok didn't even exist yet. It somehow was considered a genius moment of screenwriting, it won many accolades back then from professionals, critics, and the public. But now, A game does something cringe but still nowhere near as bad as that, and it gets wrecked by everyone.

I'm not defending the game, it's a terrible game with appalling graphics that somehow can't run properly even on a supercomputer, but the double standards are there.
 
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