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I did the math a while back, but after the feature it's hard to find, so I'll sum it up from memory again. 6 million is not break even for wolverine. 6 million is "if it sells any less than this, disney can yank the marvel license from us".

At absolute BEST comditions and scenarios, i.e., every single copy sold digitally and for full price, no bundles whatsoever, at the lowest rate that disney's cut is allowed to be, did not spend a single DOLLAR over budget despite being internally delayed a year, and a very small marketing budget for a AAA release, you're looking at about 8 million break even. However, if even a single one of those factors is higher than the perfect conditions I laid out, especially bundles, and that math shoots up by millions. 1 million ps5s sold bundled with wolverine, and all the sudden, you're looking at a 10-11 million break even.

And they do not want it to merely break even. No company spends hundreds of millions looking for zero losses, but zero profits too.
 
I did the math a while back, but after the feature it's hard to find, so I'll sum it up from memory again. 6 million is not break even for wolverine. 6 million is "if it sells any less than this, disney can yank the marvel license from us".
Can't forget that Disney's revenue cut is 40%
 
Yes, once you start rolling in spin-offs, dollarbies & freebies, and dig into the 80s.
You really think that the obscure MSX game, the obscure MSX sequel, the shitty NES port and the shitty NES sequel really made up enough to account for 36 million units? Not to mention the fucking PSP games that nobody played and the Gamecube game that nobody played
From a purely financial standpoint, ND is not in the same place Kojima is.
Those three games of Naughty Dog's probably cost substantially more to produce than the entirety of the Metal Gear Solid main series. TLOUII alone is one of the most expensive games ever made

MGSV cost $80 million to produce. They speculated that MGS4 cost $70 million to produce and a Konami employee came out and said no, that's insane. It didn't cost anywhere near that much and, if it did, it would've been multiplat
 
I just watched the clip of Sabertooth dressing down Logan. What is it with modern writers trying to take objectively evil characters and make them sympathetic? Sabertooth was a wretched murderous monster who lived to make Logan's life hell for seemingly no reason. Now he's just a lumberjack that apparently can casually speak with Logan and walk away like nothing happened? Rocksteady did the same thing with Joker in Suicide Squad.
 
I just watched the clip of Sabertooth dressing down Logan. What is it with modern writers trying to take objectively evil characters and make them sympathetic? Sabertooth was a wretched murderous monster who lived to make Logan's life hell for seemingly no reason. Now he's just a lumberjack that apparently can casually speak with Logan and walk away like nothing happened? Rocksteady did the same thing with Joker in Suicide Squad.
There's also allegedly a ton of homoerotic subtext between them which is kinda fucked up because aren't they brothers?
 
That was made up in the movies. They're not actually related. There's no subtext beyond Sabertooth being a violent psycho who really loves to torture Logan for reasons unknown.
Oh I meant there was alleged gayshit in the shitty new game not the comics.
 
So if Wolverine needs SIX MILLION COPIES SOLD AT FULL PRICE in order to stop the Marvel license from being yanked then I absolutely see them breaking their "no PS5 games on PC anymore" thing in order to boost sales and pray they can create another sloppy sequel that costs the better half of a billion dollars for a PS6 game.
 
So if Wolverine needs SIX MILLION COPIES SOLD AT FULL PRICE in order to stop the Marvel license from being yanked
Doesn't matter what price they sell them at, or even if they give them out for free (disney gets a sizeable cut of the bundle itself, and disney gets a portion of the wholesale price, doesn't matter if it's on sale or even if they give it out on ps+).
 
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'this character is a lesbian
'have I mentioned this character is a lesbian?"
'she is in no way attracted to Logan, or any man for that matter'
'please do not read the actual comics so you can find out whether or not that's a total lie'
 
There's also allegedly a ton of homoerotic subtext between them which is kinda fucked up because aren't they brothers?
Worse, the original plan for Sabertooth and Wolverine was that Sabertooth was Wolverine's FATHER.

Adding to this, is the existence of Age of Apocalypse/Exiles Sabertooth. A version of Sabertooth that worked for Apocalypse until he befriended a shy elf like moe-type mutant named Blink. Being around Blink only for a couple of days caused Sabertooth to renounce evil and Apocalypse, leading to him fleeing with Blink to Magneto and the X-Men for sanctuary. And when the AOA timeline imploded, both got saved and made members of the group of multiversal X-Men known as the Exiles.
 
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'this character is a lesbian
'have I mentioned this character is a lesbian?"
'she is in no way attracted to Logan, or any man for that matter'
'please do not read the actual comics so you can find out whether or not that's a total lie'
They did this to Black Cat too. Making every slightly-sexual woman a dyke is the 2026 version of safe horny. If she's still somehow straight, then you better believe she's wearing baggy pants and a jacket 100% of the time. And she looks like John Cena, obviously.
 
I only know about this reject of a game because I was a Korn fan, which is funny
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Reminder that superhero style games used to be edgy power fantasies for heterosexual white men. Prototype was built off the bones of a venom game that was scrapped.

Prototype can be described in one word and only one word. Fun and we traded fun for graphics. I would rather have the old style graphics of Prototype and have a genuinely fun game than the uncanny valley hyperrealism of Wolverine

I am not even mad at Wolverine, I am laughing my ass off at the Sabretooth scenes because it genuinely reminds me of Catalina level bad gay porn acting and I cannot take it seriously.

Marvel and DC used to be cool as fuck. I don't even want to like eastern games more but the western output is so fucking bad today.
It's not like fun and graphics are mutually exclusive, but yeah. While Prototype looked kinda shit even for its time, it was really damn cool.
They're making lame games because they're directed by lame people. It's not because of technical limitations, or having to choose between presentation and substance.
 
Making every slightly-sexual woman a dyke is the 2026 version of safe horny. If she's still somehow straight, then you better believe she's wearing baggy pants and a jacket 100% of the time.
The thing that gets me about censorship is they're always like "oh we're just doing it to be respectful."

My nigga this character has spats on top of tights on top of panties on top of a skort, on top of a skirt, on top of a pull over, with a sweater on top of that.

You're not trying to "be respectful" You're scared shitless Collective Shout or some other feminist hag group is going to get your game banned or demonitized.
 
The problem is not merely that Kojima went over budget or over dev time. Kojima's an expense you tolerate that shit from because he tends to make the results at least get eyes on your system. No, the problem is that Kojima did that while Sony was hemorrhaging money from a thousand self-inflicted wounds.
It’s like how 20th Century Fox needed to tolerate Marilyn’s causal promiscuous behavior despite them fuming in board rooms. What will they do, pull her billing from a movie? Good luck with that, people want Marilyn Monroe. Of course, Marilyn was not the bombshell in her personal life, she was just outgoing. Anyway, Sony tolerated Kojima because he brought eyes for PlayStation.
 
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PlayStation Blackout Had ‘No Significant Change At All’, Analyst Says

An analyst has revealed that the PlayStation Blackout wasn’t able to bring any significant changes to the player numbers or engagement.

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Circan’s Mat Piscatella recently put out the top 10 US titles by weekly active users through his latest BlueSky post. In the same thread, the analyst was asked whether the team observed any changes that could’ve been attributed to the PlayStation Blackout. Piscatella answered, stating, “No. There was no significant change at all in player count or engagement in our tracking.”

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That was made up in the movies. They're not actually related. There's no subtext beyond Sabertooth being a violent psycho who really loves to torture Logan for reasons unknown.
Ngl I actually liked that change, along with the actor that played ST in that dogwater X-men Origins: Wolverine movie. A gem amongst coal.
 
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