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Sony put out another commercial for the PS5 Pro, and people are making fun of it:


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Sony put out another commercial for the PS5 Pro, and people are making fun of it:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=37SHiJut_u0
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Also worth noting except for the soccer game and ghost of yotei, every other game in that commercial was a ps4 game. Gran turismo 7, god of war, last of us whichever version, both horizon games.

And even ghost of yotei was built entirely on the framework of the ps4 game, probably the soccer game too. They couldn't even be bothered to include Astrobot and Ratchet and clank rift apart which are actually exclusives and not on the ps4 or other consoles.
 
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That's not even Sony's fault, maybe Nintendo should have:

A. Not chosen cartridges as storage media when everyone else was moving on to CD-ROMs.

and

B. Not chosen to be treasonous backstabbing swines.

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So I'm gonna go at this with the assumption that you genuinely don't know the story of why the nintendo playstation deal deteriorated, rather than the assumption you're a butthurt sony fanboy trying to be deceptive. Make no mistake, the deal fell through because sony got caught attempting to be turbo-kikes.

So, as a refresher, and primer to the two people who have still never heard of this, the original playstation was a collaboration between sony and nintendo, with sony leveraging their much larger capacity for hardware to get them manufactured for cheaper, while this would also free up nintendo to focus 100% on software development. It would have had a 16 bit cartridge slot to be backwards compatible with the super famicom/snes, as well as a disc drive for next gen games. It reached a point in production where prototypes were being shown off at trade shows. However, all of the sudden, the deal completely fell through, and sony would eventually release the playstation as a solo project, sans cartridge slot.

Now, the popular narrative among game journos (pay no attention to the hundreds of millions sony has paid them in advertising budgets that are in no way, shape, or form bribes) and sony fanboys is that big mean nintendo backstabbed poow, widdle, innowcent mom and pop shop, small indie company sony, and then sony victoriously turned around and beat them at their own game and gaming was forever "improved" by pandering to normalfag masses, and sony never ever ever lost to nintendo again, please just ignore all the times they did.

In reality, nintendo found several absolute dishonest clauses hidden in the proposed contract. Now, naturally, sony was taking in the lion's share of the revenue from hardware, they were producing it after all, nintendo basically got what was essentially a licensing fee. But, doing a bit more digging, and adding up little bits scattered across the document, when all was said and done, sony would ALSO wind up taking in a majority of revenue from software as well, titles they had zero part in developing, even late generation snes titles that were on cartridges that sony wasn't even producing, publishing, or distributing. Upon this realization, they started to dig through the document with a much more fine toothed comb, and found what would eventually be the actual undoing of the partnership.

Now, there was a clause that ostensibly allowed sony to use nintendo ip for marketing purposes without consulting with nintendo first. Now, the stated purpose of this was so sony didn't have to have a lengthy talk with nintendo every time they made an advertisement depicting someone popping in a donkey kong country snes cartridge into the top of the playstation, so the actual clause was overlooked until now. Upon going through it more thoroughly though, it was realized that the wording was (seemingly intentionally) so broad that it would give sony the right to use nintendo ip in ANY way they see fit without consulting nintendo first, up to and including licensing them out to other developers to allow them to develop official titles in that ip for a fee, paid to sony, not nintendo. Essentially, nintendo would have ownership on paper, but sony would have every single right afforded by ownership apart from making a permanent sale of the ip to another company.

Naturally, when this was all found, nintendo went straight to sony and demanded to know what the fuck they were trying to pull. Sony, arrogant as ever, didn't even deny it, and basically responded "LOL, fuck you, it's too late anyways, we've already shown off models to trade shows and they've gotten big press, you can't back out now!" Nintendo did back out then, leaving sony somewhat scrambling, immediately running to the media with FAT checks in hand, spinning a yarn about being "bullied" and backstabbed by nintendo.
 
So? Consoles need RAM too.
yeah but consoles sell at a loss specifically because they can make their money back with the games and services it offers. pcs arent only used for games and people arent using consoles to mine crypto and/or run llms
 
yeah but consoles sell at a loss specifically because they can make their money back with the games and services it offers. pcs arent only used for games and people arent using consoles to mine crypto and/or run llms
That hasn't been true for at least two console generations. Nintendo in particular insists it never sold consoles at a loss -- break even at worst, but usually at least marginal profit ($5-$20 per unit). Console hardware isn't a "loss leader" anymore. They wouldn't be continuously jacking up prices like they are if they were willing to sell them at a loss.

Limited evidence I've found claims Xbox Series X/S was initially sold at a loss, but reached break-even shortly after launch. Sony claimed the original PS5 launch was a loss leader, but again, caught up within six months of launch. They profit from every unit sale now.
 
Sony trying to become a feminine girl's brand is one of the most baffling decisions in corporate history.
 
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