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Which game do you play the most in Sonic Mega Collection?

  • Sonic 1

    Votes: 28 4.5%

  • Sonic 2

    Votes: 112 18.1%

  • Sonic 3 and Knuckles

    Votes: 245 39.5%

  • Sonic 3D Blast

    Votes: 23 3.7%

  • Sonic Spinball

    Votes: 24 3.9%

  • Dr. Robotnik's Meanbean Machine

    Votes: 89 14.4%

  • they're all good in my opinion

    Votes: 99 16.0%
  • Total voters
    620
Vyse Inglebard said:
Of all the 3D Sonic games to remake, which one would you choose? The obvious answer would be the Adventure duology, correct? Literally easy money. Not if you're SEGA. Guess which 3D Sonic game is rumored to be getting a remake. Go on, guess.
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i am a Sonic Hero enjoyer and will be to the day i die. but even i dont think Heroes needs a remake.
 
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I actually agree that a game like Secret Rings deserves a remake since it was an alright game with it's visuals, the amount of content you get with extra missions and the unlockables tied to it, but what held it back being the shitty ass Wii remote tilt controls, RPG level mechanics just to get Sonic to eventually not be as sluggish as all hell at the start, and how there's no indication which unlocked mission is actually part of the campaign, so you'd end up unlocking multple missions and spend an eternity doing side content if just looking to clear the base game.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
I played the PS2 version back in the day, and apparently that was the worst version

Are the controls for the other versions tighter or are all 3 versions shit? Actually 4 if you count the PC port.
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The controls are pretty similar, the PS2 version is worse than the others as it has worse textures, shadows, particle effects, and only runs at 30 FPS while the other systems run at a locked 60.
 
Gutpuke said:
Implying that 06 is the worst Sonic game... You niggers need to learn of the horror that is the GameCom version of Sonic Jam.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=T3VZ39mUJG4Now this is a horrible fucking game.
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Only redditfags and e-celebs follow whatever people say about Sonic 06, but I honestly thought it was overhated. It's a bad game, but it's not even on the same level as the worst Sonic game ever. The game was rushed to the core in order to capitalize the franchise's 15th anniversary and it turned out to be an absolute disaster in its final form, but not the worst
 
TVB said:
Only redditfags and e-celebs follow whatever people say about Sonic 06, but I honestly thought it was overhated. It's a bad game, but it's not even on the same level as the worst Sonic game ever. The game was rushed to the core in order to capitalize the franchise's 15th anniversary and it turned out to be an absolute disaster in its final form, but not the worst
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It's fun to play at least, bugs and such included. If the story was tweaked a bit you'd probably have something decent in your hands. Y'know, if you really wanted to go with the Sonic/Final Fantasy route.
 
The Adventures games are fun and have their moments, but I mainly would want it for the chaos garden. Was a fun and chill side game that could work in modern day with switch or mobile using online multiplayer. Raising, sharing, competing, and customizing Chao. Would be fun for those who want to play the game heavily or those who would enjoy it casually.

also the songs for Chao Garden are pretty nice too:
 
TVB said:
but I honestly thought it was overhated. It's a bad game, but it's not even on the same level as the worst Sonic game ever. The game was rushed to the core in order to capitalize the franchise's 15th anniversary and it turned out to be an absolute disaster in its final form, but not the worst
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To be fair, the game used to be WAY worse when you tried to run it on its native consoles. Modern hardware and emulation solved the worst of its performance issues, which is probably why people look back on the game more fondly nowadays.
 
TVB said:
The game was rushed to the core in order to capitalize the franchise's 15th anniversary and it turned out to be an absolute disaster in its final form, but not the worst
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It is absolutely the worst, at least in terms of mainline games. Bugs aside there was the plot, but then there was also the thing people seem to have forgotten which it was supposed to be a reboot of the series, which is why it was just called "sonic the hedgehog." Not like a DOOM 2016 one where it's a sequel after a long-ish timespan with no game type of "reboot" but as in like the "old thing outdated and bad new thing good" kind of way. The game fucking undoes itself from existence by the end of it though, which kinda nullifies that kinda sorta? SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG would have been a better 15th anniversary game if they gave it a little more time, a lot of building blocks are there for one.

Callbacks to the last 10 years of games, as well as wrapping up all the plot threads from them? Got it. "Innovation" in the form of an item pickup system? got it. Alternate branching paths in the stages similar to the classic games, but with additional BRANCHING STAGES depending on how you clear them? Really fucking cool concepts. if the game wasn't in the slippery ass Sonic heroes speed formation physics the whole game with the gameplay of the Chaotix missions it would have been a fucking smash hit as goofy and laughable as the hedgehog with guns thing is. I unironically have no regrets from playing the game back when it came out even with it's reputation and how clunky and corny as shit it was. It was also the origin point of the goofy edgelord version of shadow which while not the best is also not the worst due to it being funny seeing everyone else be goofy happy guys and him just going "Who am i? god damn BLACK CREATURES".

One thing that never stopped bothering me about 06 is the fact the DEMO for the game actually functioned properly and there was a lot of lighting and features that for some reason were cut from the final, infinitely more buggy release. There have been fan projects and mods over the last few years actively trying to restore it to play more like that demo but even that doesn't fix a lot of the shit going on with the game's plot. It's like the shit going on in Shadow The hedgehog but without any of the campy slight self awareness and infinitely more weird creep vibes.
A good few of the infamously "bad" sonic games could be easily fixed with some gameplay physics fixes and other tweaks.

One major thing I'll give both shadow and 06 is there was very clearly a genuine heart/soul kinda thing going on with whoever the people were in charge of those game's story as bad as they turned out You can see this in the FMV cutscenes and the delivery of some lines. The guys making the OST put in their all too. There's a reason why entire crowds of people get fucking hyped at live concerts when they show up and start blasting the main themes to shadow and 06, they're quality fucking shit that have managed to not become chained by the sub par game they were tied to.
 
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The Lawgiver said:
One thing that never stopped bothering me about 06 is the fact the DEMO for the game actually functioned properly and there was a lot of lighting and features that for some reason were cut from the final, infinitely more buggy release. There have been fan projects and mods over the last few years actively trying to restore it to play more like that demo but even that doesn't fix a lot of the shit going on with the game's plot. It's like the shit going on in Shadow The hedgehog but without any of the campy slight self awareness and infinitely more weird creep vibes.
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IIRC the later, more finished versions of 06 were incredibly unstable and constantly crashed, leading to the build we know today releasing. Also despite the plot of 06 being retarded schizobabble with bestiality I'd still take it over the plot of Heroes. I'm not expecting something deep and intricate, but I'm also not five years old, I don't need a lesson on how having friends is so heccin wholesome chungus and working together is so magical. At least with 06s on plot I can laugh at how dumb it is, Heroes’s dialogue just makes me mad.
I don’t get why many Heroes fans think the game‘s writing is somehow a return to the Genesis days while the Pontac+Graff writing is literally the devil. The writing in Heroes is just as corny, if not more.
Pixy said:
Unleashed could never run at a solid 60 framerate unlike 06, so it's got that over it.
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Forget 60fps, a lot of the times it couldn’t even hit 30
 
Nguyen Van Phuoc said:
despite the plot of 06 being retarded schizobabble with bestiality I'd still take it over the plot of Heroes. I'm not expecting something deep and intricate, but I'm also not five years old, I don't need a lesson on how having friends is so heccin wholesome chungus and working together is so magical. At least with 06s on plot I can laugh at how dumb it is, Heroes’s dialogue just makes me mad.
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Back in the day I was kinda really offputt by heroes writing, especially coming off the heels of adventure 1 and 2 which were the coolest shit to me as a kid. The plot of heroes is neat but like they don't really do much with it till the very very end and thats ironically when the writing goes from mildly confusing but occasionally enjoyable banter to the friendship magic stuff. It's not a bad thing to include in media but the way heroes does it feels kinda performative compared to other media that has that.


Nguyen Van Phuoc said:
I don’t get why many Heroes fans think the game‘s writing is somehow a return to the Genesis days while the Pontac+Graff writing is literally the devil. The writing in Heroes is just as corny, if not more.
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Genesis days stuff was basically "Robotnik is up to some shady shit, Sonic beats his ass in, he flees to his space condo at the end of game 2 and Sonic beats his ass harder and destroys his house not just once but twice or three times if you count the Sonic 3&Knuckles death egg crashes as separate ones.

It's never stopped being weird to me how classic Sonic is now just like some mute little mascot baby just because there was no dialogue in the genesis mainline games aside from CD's voicelines (that Sega removed in the nerfed version of the CD port after they yoinked it off steam). Design wise he's just black eyes Sonic . He's got a more uniform appearance nowadays based on one piece of Sonic 1 art but if you look at some classic series art he has similar proportions to modern era Sonic.
 
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I don't care about Sonic all that much, just give me Shadow The Hedgehog 2. There is so much you can improve about the gameplay, and my god was the first game retarded. The neutral ending has Eggman convincing Shadow that he is an android(he is not an android), so he does the only logical thing and decides to become android Hitler and take over the world. The game ends with Shadow feeding Eggman a glock sandwich(this is not a joke) while not being aware that he was basically fucked with by Eggman, and this is one of the tamer endings for this game. The edge is hilariously over the top and Shadow simply cannot talking about how much he hates those black creatures, we need more of this shit.
The cherry on top? This game was advertised to kids, if you were watching TV or going anywhere on the net back in the day where you would expect a kid to be, you would see this furry fuck being advertised with this pump action MP5 and his stupid motorcycle. I wonder how many kids were introduced to Sonic because of this game.
Sega would never do Shadow justice, but one can dream. This game was the perfect storm and the only thing holding it back was the actual game part, gameplay wise it had some very neat ideas but they weren't executed very well. Oh, and the music rocks, I can't think of even one track that was bad or even not memorable, they even managed to make a goddamn circus track sound edgy for Shadow.
 
30+GameOvers said:
they even managed to make a goddamn circus track sound edgy for Shadow.
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Have you heard the Billy Hatcher OST? Because that song you're talking about is literally just a Billy hatcher song structurally, the stage it's in even sharing the same name as a Billy Hatcher stage. I wouldn't be surprised if it was literally a Billy Hatcher song at one point before they decided to use a Knuckles Chaotix song for Billy Hatcher's edgy circus stage.


 
DEAR KIWI HEROES,

GUESS WHAT, KIWI HEROES?
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The Lawgiver said:
Back in the day I was kinda really offputt by heroes writing, especially coming off the heels of adventure 1 and 2
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Nguyen Van Phuoc said:
I'd still take it over the plot of Heroes. I'm not expecting something deep and intricate, but I'm also not five years old, I don't need a lesson on how having friends is so heccin wholesome chungus and working together is so magical. At least with 06s on plot I can laugh at how dumb it is, Heroes’s dialogue just makes me mad.
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The story writing is meh (a couple neat concepts with middling execution), but it's like the dialogue saw the level design and felt like its position as the Worst Thing In The Game was in jeopardy so it had to double down
 
The Lawgiver said:
Have you heard the Billy Hatcher OST? Because that song you're talking about is literally just a Billy hatcher song structurally, the stage it's in even sharing the same name as a Billy Hatcher stage. I wouldn't be surprised if it was literally a Billy Hatcher song at one point before they decided to use a Knuckles Chaotix song for Billy Hatcher's edgy circus stage.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WbaAWPZZIb0
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cYKMvoLgsKo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=69bUl586Dow
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So the game about a furry with a gun violently gunning down disgusting black creatures shares some cut content from a baby game about chickens, huh?
The plot thickens, this is exactly why we need a sequel.
 
30+GameOvers said:
So the game about a furry with a gun violently gunning down disgusting black creatures shares some cut content from a baby game about chickens, huh?
The plot thickens, this is exactly why we need a sequel.
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I don't know if it's cut content or not, but it's the same composer. One of the rewards for beating the games many endings is a goofy ass egg Vacuum gun that's a Billy Hatcher reference.
I can't find youtube uploads showcasing it anymore, but I found this instead.
Some madman made this.
 
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