Something Awful and Friends - The roller-coaster train-wreck embarrassing downfall of a Web 1.0 giant and its tick offspring like from Cloverfield

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He tried to stand up to the mods during the Shmorky bullshit, IIRC one of the mods does coding work for SA for free and threatened to leave unless Lowtax backed-down, so Lowtax backed down.
It's a one-time fee, not per-month (you have top pay more to get an avatar, search the forum, have access to archives though).

And if you get banned and have to rereg for $10, all your add-ons you paid for (custom title, avatar, archives, platinum, etc) are all gone and must be repurchased.

Also, if I remember right you have to pay for platinum to add images to your posts. A big reason I never bothered to create any content for SA.
 
Lol that pic is cute.

Well ok, that explains why he lets it go on. It doesn't explain why he let it happen in the first place.
 
That and he seemed to have always just wanted to do the front page and be a comedy writer, the forums becoming huge was something he'd just rather not have to deal with, so for the most part he just delegated everything and stepped away.
 
That and he seemed to have always just wanted to do the front page and be a comedy writer, the forums becoming huge was something he'd just rather not have to deal with, so for the most part he just delegated everything and stepped away.

Yeah, basically. The fact that he kept Radium on the payroll for years and years despite the fact that he was a fucking idiot who clearly had no idea what he was doing* speaks to this. And eventually the siren song of Vicodin and box wine sapped him of his desire to write anything.

*Radium is a fun, but long, story. He got the job mainly by bluffing since Lowtax has no idea how to fuck with BBcode software, and then he strung Lowtax along by promising that he was working on "big projects" behind the scenes. In reality, he was a barely competent coder that was in way over his head. The search function, a feature that you had to PAY for, straight-up didn't work for a ludicrous period of time because Radium fucked up the BBforum's default search function and didn't know how to fix it. Then there was SASS's greatest victory: When the forums got hacked and thousands of username/password listings were dumped Radium forced everyone to convert their passwords to ones that rivaled bank account sites in their complexity requirements (because that totally fixes the fact that they were able to pull passwords that were apparently stored in plain text). Radium's password was something insanely simple, like "Hunter123". Following the gigantic lecture on personal password responsibility from Professor Radium, SASS discovered that Radium used the same "Hunter123" password for absolutely every single account he had. Utility companies, online stores, the works. Eventually enough people grew cynical about Radium that even Lowtax couldn't drink enough to ignore the growing restlessness, so he shitcanned Radium. Just last year Tax posted chatlogs for some reason, which proved that he ignored a billion red flags about Radium's competence as a web-admin.
 
Jesus. Gonna powerlevel here but I know for a fact that a certain Finland man basically abandoned a forum he purchased for testing things out, but he left it in the hands of competent managers who largely did things like he would have. Even then it wasn't bad management that nearly wrecked the site, it was a shitty server plus a lack of access to certain maintenance-necessary features from the admin side. But that was after a decade of ownership. Before then, he kept tabs.

Thats...like wow. Like, all lowtax had to do over the years was keep one guy who was active, and of a similar mindset, in charge and keep tabs, and then what happens is shit mods get dealt with and replaced frequently. Just one good Admin to run your shit from the top, and the Mongoloids can't get a foot in.

Nah. Nobody is that lazy. Lowtax let that happen on purpose.
 
Also, if I remember right you have to pay for platinum to add images to your posts. A big reason I never bothered to create any content for SA.
That's just to use SA hosted attachments, embedding images from imagehosts has worked for as long as I can remember.

And if you get banned and have to rereg for $10, all your add-ons you paid for (custom title, avatar, archives, platinum, etc) are all gone and must be repurchased.
This is why I've never bothered buying any of that stuff, I can understand that lowtax is a jew, and that it also means people should be inclined to not do shit that'll get them banned because they have more to lose, but because of how banhappy the mods are you risk getting banned if you make a joke at anyone's expense or post anything that could be perceived as slightly racist or sexist or homophobic.

Frankly I'm surprised that lowtax doesn't constantly have mods fucking with him by trying to put through bans whenever he talks about his "dead gay forum".
 
So exactly how did a *comedy* forum get overrun by fun-hating sadbrains?


Some blame FYAD's hivemind taking over the admins of the old days so they could be cool in FYAD (zack, mostly) or they blame Fistgirl (zack's wife) who became an admin for no reason and getting real butthurt about anything that even sounded anti-women and banning people. Or Fistgirl promoting ozma(fat0 to admin, or the Debate and Discussion forums becoming a Marxist feels party where the competition was to see who could be the most extreme leftist. Others blame games, DnD and the goddam football subforum for all trooning out hard and getting ozma to make trannies a protected topic

But really, the same root seems to be Zack Parsons being a humorless prick about anything that isn't furries
 
I blame Obama-mania myself. It killed what was left of any competing ideologies (libertarians, conservative Democrats, etc.) and then LF broke off from them when Obama took private campaign contributions.

edit: To expand on this, now that I have access to a keyboard...

SA has always leaned left somewhat on culture war issues. Even in the early days you weren't going to exactly find many people arguing for church in schools, a ban on swearing or any of the American right's authoritarian ideas. But you would see some posters arguing for right wing economic ideas or for general non-intervention from the government even in areas where doing so would benefit the left or for military action abroad (that last one ended across the site as Iraq went on.)

In time most issues got a forums consensus, and anyone who disagreed would give up and not reply to the thread to avoid being dog-piled. This consensus was, with a select few exceptions, pretty much always somewhere between those of the Democratic party and the European left. 2007/8 was, in addition to the start of Obama-mania, also the peak of the Ron Paul era on the forums- buoyed by his opposition to Iraq and US foreign policy generally and his purported strict adherence to the constitution. The Paul and Austrian Economics threads were huge and fast moving. So at that point most positions in the American center were gone- you were almost certain to be a hard core libertarian or a European style Social Democrat. So about those Paul threads... they were hated by the lefties on the site's staff. And since the staff was disproportionately left leaning that meant they got to do things they shouldn't have been.

Eventually the D&D mods, who included gay, Dutch, Communist, luster-for-children McCaine and admins (such as the aforementioned Zack, Fistgrrl and Ozma) let it be known that it was open season on the libertarians. You could go into their thread and shit on it and nobody would do anything to you, assuming that thread wasn't already moved to FYAD or LF. Or you can change their avatars for money, but if they do it back to you an admin will change it to an Obama one for free.

So there you have it, you couldn't be a traditional moralistic Christian poster who believed in right-wing economics. Because you know, that type of person was a very early target of SA both on the forums and the front page. But then you couldn't be a libertarian (aka left-wing social values and right wing economics) either. So you basically weren't allowed to be any type of right-winger economically. Interestingly, you could be on the upper left side of that stupid chart- at least until McCaine got banned and then you could again when LF really went off the rails, but few people ever were and when they were it was without the religious aspect. Of course, thats just an ideology that doesn't seem to apply to many people in the developed west and as such didn't have much push outside of the "learn about the CCP" thread.

At that point LF and D&D (which was sort of falling apart-few threads were being posted in) was an echo chamber of low effort posting, anchored by a few try-hards who would basically be lolcows if the shit they were writing wasn't so infuriating. Obama was in office by this time and bound by the restraints of governance- LF quickly left him behind in their race leftward. A few of the posters, co-ordinating both on-site and off, decided to indoctrinate GBS. And GBS, being full of retards who can't debate, was totally unprepared to argue against a dog-pile of low effort leftists who would never be banned. So at that point yeah, GBS became a left-wing hivemind too. And since, contrary to what other subforums like to claim, GBS is the second biggest part of the site it naturally just spread from there. It went everywhere but Games, which moved so fast that political talk would be drowned out by talk about games. Games in Games, what a novel concept.

And of course if you went into the "no rules" subforum and posted things they disagreed with, you could end up being fucked with by the admins, banned for pretty much anything or have a Helldump thread opened on you (and then, again, banned from there.) Or they might just do all of those things even if you didn't go into their special place. And why are you complaining, you garbage person? You racist bastard. Look at this post where you said that some people abuse welfare. Etc.

And where was Lowtax during all of this? No-where. At all. He was marrying his first and second wives, buying and reselling his two McMansions, writing front page articles, trusting that radium was radically overhauling the code, experiencing the homeopathic properties of mangosteen and basically just being everywhere that wasn't the place that made him money.

Now contrary to what most people will say, that visit from the FBI wasn't the first he became aware of LF's issues. He had noticed that it, YCS and the other FYAD-lites were being obnoxious to the regular users. But he was a coward and his admins kept insisting that things were fine, so he'd do things like order the quiet deletion of invasion threads (after the off-site community that continued to plan them was already up and running) or closing Helldump, or instituting forums cancer in lieu of actually banning problem users. The only problem is, unless you're on the site all the time you wouldn't actually notice all that stuff building up. You wouldn't get the idea that SA had its own little version Halal/Haram. When it finally came time to delete LF, it took the userbase as a surprise- all the unofficial warnings to shape up were useless and Lowtax would have been better off just deleting it years beforehand. And of course by the time he did do it the other groups had left the site and they pretty much never returned.


I eagerly await the autism and powerlevel ratings.
 
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But really, the same root seems to be Zack Parsons being a humorless prick about anything that isn't furries

It was 100% Zack's fault. He was the one who basically opened the doors for agenda bans, and because Lowtax and Zack are friends irl, he was basically allowed to do whatever he wanted except for the few occasions when literally the ENTIRE FORUM would petition Lowtax to get Zack to chill the fuck out, which is the only time Lowtax would actually step in and do something.

I can't put the entire blame for 2017 SA on Zack because he's been gone a long time and shit has only gotten worse (the above poster makes a good case for Obamarama making things worse), but he is absolutely the one who got the ball rolling down this path.

Edit: Also, while McCaine was absolutely definitely cancer, I'll give him credit for staying out of the rest of the forums and only assfucking D&D/LF/GIP. I didn't really pay much attention to any of those forums (I read a few threads in D&D/LF but I was never an active poster), but you couldn't be on SA and not hear horror stories about McCaine.

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A few of the posters, co-ordinating both on-site and off, decided to indoctrinate GBS. And GBS, being full of exceptional individuals who can't debate, was totally unprepared to argue against a dog-pile of low effort leftists who would never be banned.

I'm gonna be fair to GBS for a second here, what would usually happen would be that LF/D&D members would come in and just shove their opinion up GBS' ass for pages and pages of exceedingly long screeds against capitalism and shit. For those of you not familiar with D&D, you don't win debates there by having well thought-out logical reasoning. You win by sheer attrition of words. The person who types the most words wins.

GBS never really worked like that, so when D&D would roll in with their pages and pages of never-ending bullshit, most GBS posters just gave up and said "whatever" because it's fucking exhausting arguing with a D&D poster.

Not that you're wrong in saying that GBS is full of retards who can't debate. You're absolutely correct. But I blame the D&D autism more than GBS.
 
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Perhaps, but someone must have been reading them and liking what they saw because all of the non-political threads became infected with that shit too and everyone who didn't go along with it got banned.
 
Perhaps, but someone must have been reading them and liking what they saw because all of the non-political threads became infected with that shit too and everyone who didn't go along with it got banned.

Yeah, THIS is where we get into GBS being stupid. GBS assumed "a lot of words = correct" and bought into D&D's John Galt-esque monologues, because they're dumb as shit.
 
So FAU is at it again, in the GBS/Trump/Doxx Thread

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I thought the farms were horrible awful doxxers and doxxing is bad.

Also an admin who cant just correct people post the fucking court case and how the fuck is "spreading myths"

Thats the 9th post the fucker posted 8 times

that Black Mail is not illegal
 
So FAU is at it again, in the GBS/Trump/Doxx Thread

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I thought the farms were horrible awful doxxers and doxxing is bad.

Also an admin who cant just correct people post the fucking court case and how the fuck is "spreading myths"

Thats the 9th post the fucker posted 8 times

that Black Mail is not illegal

No wonder Lowtax hasn't ditched this faggot yet. He's both his admin AND legal counsel, and he does it all for free!

Edit: Having read the context for that post it kind of seems like he's trying to be ironic or funny or something and doesn't really believe blackmail is legal. It's hard to tell because he really, really sucks at comedy.
 
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If you ever wonder how wrong a person can be in every opinion and fact they have, just remember that FAU has decided not to kill himself every single day of his adult life
 
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