Something Awful and Friends - The roller-coaster train-wreck embarrassing downfall of a Web 1.0 giant and its tick offspring like from Cloverfield

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I don't like genesplicer but A GLISTENING HODOR never posts anything of value and should have been escorted out the sidedoor and thrown into the gerbage years ago.
 
Lou Wrong said:
I don't like genesplicer but A GLISTENING HODOR never posts anything of value and should have been escorted out the sidedoor and thrown into the gerbage years ago.
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I cannot argue with this. Would be nice if the mods could maybe give a warning and say dont do this or something.
 
Mr. Professional said:
I cannot argue with this. Would be nice if the mods could maybe give a warning and say dont do this or something.
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Wasn't this how SA used to operate anyway? Post like you actually have something to contribute and not just shitpost (unless you're in the shitposting subforums) and you're fine. I only ever lurked the LP forums and that's how it was there, like only 2 years or so ago.
 
patchwork said:
Wasn't this how SA used to operate anyway? Post like you actually have something to contribute and not just shitpost (unless you're in the shitposting subforums) and you're fine. I only ever lurked the LP forums and that's how it was there, like only 2 years or so ago.
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GBS *was* a shit-posting forum, though. It's always been a bit schizophrenic as it was partly a containment area, so it had everything from quite serious discussions to pure shit-posting threads. As long as they met the "funny, informative or entertaining" benchmark, all threads were welcome.

Unfortunately, what was regarded as "funny, informative or entertaining" became more and more subject to the caprice of the mods and many good threads got moved to "more appropriate" forums (where people would have started them in the first place if they didn't want GBS-style participation).

If you look at PYF, many of the "classic" GBS threads of old would not be welcome in GBS today. It's not because "we've grown up now". That they keep getting listed as favourites suggests that people still appreciate that style of humour. It's hard to imagine that the Zombaby or Dollfucker threads would survive more than a few pages before being shut down today, or that a thread mocking dead baby sites would be allowed (much less started by a mod).

GBS does have a tendency to run shit into the ground, and curbing that would probably have a more positive impact on GBS than arbitrarily closing threads because a mod doesn't personally like their "tone" or because D&D has whined about too many isms in GBS.
 
Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0 said:
What you fail to understand, time and time again, is that we are your customers, your userbase, and when we say we don't like the direction the forums are going, you attack us for being carefags, and if we say we don't care, you say were are bitter assholes who can't let it go.
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I cannot, and should not, listen to and do what every single customer suggests. Up until about a decade ago, I simply did what I thought was best for the forums. That was back in the horrible, dark ages of SJWs and catladies and whatnot. But after time, I realized that no matter what I do, somebody will complain about it and say I should've done the opposite. When the forums reached peak tumblr, I let Zack do the Halloween experiment, where all rules went out the window and the SJWs were chased out of town. That's when GBS started really going downhill and effort posts were discouraged, people just ran around calling each other nigger, one word replies, memes, etc etc. It was the complete opposite of how it was run before, and then people still got upset and said GBS was bad and wrong and not good anymore.

Try to look at it from my point of view. In the 16 years I've been running the forums, people have constantly claimed I'm doing a poor job and doing the wrong thing and making poor decisions. After a while it starts to feel numbing, like no matter what I do or change, all I'll get is negative feedback and complaints. Any change I make, even font sizes, is met with criticism. One group of people will want one thing, and another group will want the opposite. It's impossible to listen to the userbase, because the userbase is never united and cannot agree on what they want.

As for the SoSe folks, I don't attack anybody, I just disregard a majority of their opinions and ideas because their community has proven time and time again that they're generally a bunch of pricks with grudges who would rather tell my wife they hope she dies during childbirth than actually engage in a rational discussion.

Sorry for the length of this post, but it's difficult to explain what it's like to run a forum / community of this size for so long. Nearly any change is met with criticism no matter how minor, lots of people have lots of ideas to "improve" the forums (and they all conflict with each other), and many people declare they could easily do a better job running things than I ever could. All this makes it difficult to respond to "my customers" and there's no magic way I can change things that would appease everybody and get a 100% consensus on.
 
Lowtax said:
I cannot, and should not, listen to and do what every single customer suggests. Up until about a decade ago, I simply did what I thought was best for the forums. That was back in the horrible, dark ages of SJWs and catladies and whatnot. But after time, I realized that no matter what I do, somebody will complain about it and say I should've done the opposite. When the forums reached peak tumblr, I let Zack do the Halloween experiment, where all rules went out the window and the SJWs were chased out of town. That's when GBS started really going downhill and effort posts were discouraged, people just ran around calling each other Google, one word replies, memes, etc etc. It was the complete opposite of how it was run before, and then people still got upset and said GBS was bad and wrong and not good anymore.

Try to look at it from my point of view. In the 16 years I've been running the forums, people have constantly claimed I'm doing a poor job and doing the wrong thing and making poor decisions. After a while it starts to feel numbing, like no matter what I do or change, all I'll get is negative feedback and complaints. Any change I make, even font sizes, is met with criticism. One group of people will want one thing, and another group will want the opposite. It's impossible to listen to the userbase, because the userbase is never united and cannot agree on what they want.

As for the SoSe folks, I don't attack anybody, I just disregard a majority of their opinions and ideas because their community has proven time and time again that they're generally a bunch of pricks with grudges who would rather tell my wife they hope she dies during childbirth than actually engage in a rational discussion.

Sorry for the length of this post, but it's difficult to explain what it's like to run a forum / community of this size for so long. Nearly any change is met with criticism no matter how minor, lots of people have lots of ideas to "improve" the forums (and they all conflict with each other), and many people declare they could easily do a better job running things than I ever could. All this makes it difficult to respond to "my customers" and there's no magic way I can change things that would appease everybody and get a 100% consensus on.
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When I don't like to run a forum, and I know this may sound absolutely crazy and weird as hell, I stop running it.
 
Lowtax said:
I cannot, and should not, listen to and do what every single customer suggests. Up until about a decade ago, I simply did what I thought was best for the forums. That was back in the horrible, dark ages of SJWs and catladies and whatnot. But after time, I realized that no matter what I do, somebody will complain about it and say I should've done the opposite. When the forums reached peak tumblr, I let Zack do the Halloween experiment, where all rules went out the window and the SJWs were chased out of town. That's when GBS started really going downhill and effort posts were discouraged, people just ran around calling each other Google, one word replies, memes, etc etc. It was the complete opposite of how it was run before, and then people still got upset and said GBS was bad and wrong and not good anymore.
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The Halloween experiment replaced one bad GBS with another. GBS was not always overly political (well, not slanted only in one direction) and it was not always a place for easily offended crybabies. It also didn't help that PYF, A/T and E/N all took away topics that used to go into GBS. With all the niche subforums and then those three "whatever you want to talk about" ones there was simply nothing left to talk about in GBS.

Back in 07/08 the actual answer, in my easily disregarded opinion anyway, would have been to have deleted LF or at least put your foot down on it as soon as it started fucking with other parts of SA instead of going through whole process of RFA/forums cancer/closing invasion threads, etc. Rules against pissing inside the tent should really be enforced across the board but they aren't. ExMarx is allowed to have his D&D chat thread of garbage posters sending links to brigade people from and nobody cares. I'm sure other parts of SA have similar shit. Now you could always start enforcing such a rule now but its probably too late, that stuff is ingrained in forum culture now and if you did crack down you'd have people like the guy above defending A GLISTENING HODOR and his noise posts.
 
Lowtax said:
As for the SoSe folks, I don't attack anybody, I just disregard a majority of their opinions and ideas because their community has proven time and time again that they're generally a bunch of pricks with grudges who would rather tell my wife they hope she dies during childbirth than actually engage in a rational discussion.
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You kept a guy on payroll who harassed mothers that lost their children, monetized it, and still have it sitting on your website with the poor women's full names and people are supposed to empathize with you because you randomly claim without proof someone said something mean to your wife?
 
literally a rapist said:
You kept a guy on payroll who harassed mothers that lost their children, monetized it, and still have it sitting on your website with the poor women's full names and people are supposed to empathize with you because you randomly claim without proof someone said something mean to your wife?
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He wasn't asking for empathy he's saying it's pointless to argue with you because you're a salty faggot with poor reading comprehension.
 
Simmer down cuck, I got his point. The implication is that it's retarded to label hundreds of people with a brush because someone on the same board allegedly said something mean to a something awful administrator/his wife while he's still monetizing content where his employee harasses, doxxes, and publishes private communication with a grieving mother.
 
literally a rapist said:
Simmer down cuck, I got his point. The implication is that it's exceptional to label hundreds of people with a brush because someone on the same board allegedly said something mean to a something awful administrator/his wife while he's still monetizing content where his employee harasses, doxxes, and publishes private communication with a grieving mother.
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You clearly want to prove @Lowtax is incompetent, immature, and as evil as you make him out to be, so pointers:

1. Lay off the insults. If you've got a good case against the guy, let him prove it by him being the one to hurl insults, not you.

2. Calm the fuck down. Here, we laugh at people who, even if they have a good case, just can't act mature about it, so if you don't want to be the lolcow here, quit acting the part.

3. Evidence is better than accusations. Post screencaps, archive links, etc. You want us to believe you, do more than fling accusations, back them up.
 
Cynical said:
You clearly want to prove @Lowtax is incompetent, immature, and as evil as you make him out to be, so pointers:

1. Lay off the insults. If you've got a good case against the guy, let him prove it by him being the one to hurl insults, not you.

2. Calm the fuck down. Here, we laugh at people who, even if they have a good case, just can't act mature about it, so if you don't want to be the lolcow here, quit acting the part.

3. Evidence is better than accusations. Post screencaps, archive links, etc. You want us to believe you, do more than fling accusations, back them up.
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I don't think he's evil, just greedy and lazy, and despite the repeated accusation I'm part of a twenty-year old group of people gangstalking him and threatening to rape his wife and children I actually read SoSe for the parts where it makes fun of lolcow goons like Fire. But anyway, here's the link to the article in question:

http://www.somethingawful.com/news/were-all-gonna/
 
literally a rapist said:
You kept a guy on payroll who harassed mothers that lost their children, monetized it, and still have it sitting on your website with the poor women's full names and people are supposed to empathize with you because you randomly claim without proof someone said something mean to your wife?
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literally a rapist said:
I don't think he's evil, just greedy and lazy, and despite the repeated accusation I'm part of a twenty-year old group of people gangstalking him and threatening to rape his wife and children I actually read SoSe for the parts where it makes fun of lolcow goons like Fire. But anyway, here's the link to the article in question:

http://www.somethingawful.com/news/were-all-gonna/
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So basically, your shining example of Lowtax sucking is showing us how overly aggressive mothers of dead babies were offended by something and threatened to sue. "The guy on the payroll" made, at first, a reasonable attempt to placate them that they only took advantage of by pressing even harder?

Granted, the guy was kind of a dick a bit too early on, but I can't blame him too much when someone with that much misplaced moral outrage is filling their inbox with threats and butthurt over a link to someone else's website that he doesn't control.
 
Graffiti canvas said:
So basically, your shining example of Lowtax sucking is showing us how overly aggressive mothers of dead babies were offended by something and threatened to sue. "The guy on the payroll" made, at first, a reasonable attempt to placate them that they only took advantage of by pressing even harder?

Granted, the guy was kind of a dick a bit too early on, but I can't blame him too much when someone with that much misplaced moral outrage is filling their inbox with threats and butthurt over a link to someone else's website that he doesn't control.
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I find it incredibly hilarious when the SoSe people try to go with the moral outrage angle, especially since their members are the people who told my wife they hope she and our baby die during childbirth, in addition to all the threats of raping my other two kids. Trying to take the moral high road in this case is a pretty hard sell.
 
Lowtax said:
I find it incredibly hilarious when the SoSe people try to go with the moral outrage angle, especially since their members are the people who told my wife they hope she and our baby die during childbirth, in addition to all the threats of raping my other two kids. Trying to take the moral high road in this case is a pretty hard sell.
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Your children are just too sexy for their own good.
 
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