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GGGBYBYBY said:
^I see we're a tad Marxist up here however I totally agree, class divides more than anything at times. It doesn't matter what race, gender or sexuality you are, if you lack the funds you mean jackshit to the world.
SJWs take equality and bend the lines to suit them which in itself is contradictory to the cause. It's hardly equality if you scream death at somebody in the privileged majority for just existing.
The problem with Tumblr is everyone tries to bring everything into everything. Especially in the case of SJWs. I've seen posts on all kinds of things where it gets out of hand, one that springs to mind is a Pokemon post where they chastised the games for not having another gender other than girl or boy. Despite the fact it is a role playing game where gender means nothing because it's about grinding monsters. Pokemon is indiscriminate, it doesn't judge a player. Why are they making it an issue?

I'm not marxist, nor am I socialist. I'm just saying that "privilege" can effect people of any race but SJWs tend to like to group people and say all whites are privileged despite the fact that there are very poor whites as well who maybe can't afford things such as college, a decent home, ect. And there are well-to-do minorities out there that can afford more than enough. But no, in the eyes of a SJW, white=privilege, minority=no privilege. So I consider privilege a class thing, SJW it's a race thing.

bungholio said:
I know. The gender you identify as is your gender, physical or not. If you don't know which you are, then you really shouldn't be offended by any pronoun, either could apply. is there something wrong with being male or female? No.

I have a friend who is an FtM transgender, but not yet on hormones. Some people who don't know him accidentally call him a she, but honestly sometimes it's hard to tell since he still retains feminine qualities. He'll get extremely offended and break down crying if someone calls him a she, but honestly how are strangers and such supposed to know otherwise? He has other problems that irk me, but I won't get into that.
 
Tomboy, being an internet person means I have no idea how to take your comments about being an asexual person, so do keep that in mind before retorting to what I'm about to say.

I already knew about the Internet Warriors for a long time, but SJW... it was from going to sf-drama on LiveJournal. There are enough rants there about internet asexuals that really soured me on the whole thing, in part because of what Tomboy brought up: namely, the part about asexuals 'taking over' the things from the rest of the LGBT lifestyle and such. I mean... my point of view is that if you actively cannot have sex with someone, such as because you've suffered abuse regarding it, then you have a point; if your problem is that you're not having sex and you're trying to look proud, and even come up with those demisexual/graysexual titles and what-not... then aren't you just an attention-seeking prick wanting to be holier-than-thou?

I mean, at least I have a legit reason for being screwed up on that aspect, and I don't try to 'embrace' it by claiming I'm a whateversexual and pretending that makes me JUST AS SPESHUL as a literally gay/lesbian person. I'm not 100% straight, but I favor that sexuality, so I'll call myself that. SJWs seem to be the type that would demand I write down something I'm not to support their cause and get them to have the same benefits as the minority groups they claim they support.

...shit, maybe that's why this bothers me so much, they behave like the government from my country and its relationship to poor people.
 
GGGBYBYBY said:
one that springs to mind is a Pokemon post where they chastised the games for not having another gender other than girl or boy. Despite the fact it is a role playing game where gender means nothing because it's about grinding monsters. Pokemon is indiscriminate, it doesn't judge a player.

I thought that was a brilliant post.

SJWs spent all their fury rambling about lack of gender options in Pokémon.

Fucking Pokémon.

Talk about a ruined opportunity for activism. That's about as far from the centre of activity as you can get.

So it's relieving to see that real game designers can spend good time thinking what gender and gender expressions and sexuality really means in video games. Personally, I love that even big-name publishers and developers have woken up and we're seeing sensibly written queer characters in big titles. (Think of it. Goddamn Skyrim, which reaped zillions of very justified awards, has gay marriages and adoption, and no one's raising stink about it. This is some fucking progressive shit right here!)

Meanwhile, the SJWs are whining about goddamn motherfucking Pokémon because they don't really care about other video games.

It's a perfect distraction, really.

Keep distracting these morons, Nintendo. Keep distracting them so that people can make actually sensible stuff elsewhere.
 
For me, there are three genders. Male, Female, and Androgynous/Neutral. I've never come across a SJW type in person but I've met people (nice ones) who are in a gray area/confused about their gender. I've heard of 'hir' but none of the others that were brought up in this thread, nor would I use any of them, 'hir' is my limit. I find it lulzy that people would throw a bitchfit over Pokeymanz and their gender.
 
CalmMyTits said:
I find it lulzy that people would throw a bitchfit over Pokeymanz and their gender.
There's no point, considering that they did plan to allow the player to choose their gender and created concept art of a female player character before they realized there wasn't enough data capacity to do it. That concept art became the main female character in Pokemon Adventures. When Crystal came about at the end of second gen, it was a Gameboy Color exclusive, which allowed it the space to finally introduce the option of picking your gender.
 
I have no issue playing male characters in games. I'm not going to cry that there's no Super Mario Sisters, Sonia the Hedgehog, Megawoman, etc. I have more important things in my life to take issue over.

I've only played a little bit of Pokemon Red on my brother's gameboy when it first came out, but I've never touched any of the other games, except for that Nintendo 64 one where you take pictures of Pokemon. I wasn't aware of the whole choosing gender thing until this thread.
 
The whole concept of demisexuality is what's grinding my gears recently.
Demisexuality is nebulously defined, but usually said to be 'not being sexually attracted to a person until you have an emotional connection with them'
You know, like most of the damn population.
 
CalmMyTits said:
Super Mario Sisters
Somebody actually did make that, more or less.

Anyways. I can recall encountering people like this in one of my high school classes. They deemed me to be racist because I said I don't think Bill Cosby is funny and I didn't consider any of the African men from some stupid video "hawt". Apparently not being in love with every minority in existence equals racist.
 
CalmMyTits said:
I have no issue playing male characters in games. I'm not going to cry that there's no Super Mario Sisters, Sonia the Hedgehog, Megawoman, etc. I have more important things in my life to take issue over.

I've only played a little bit of Pokemon Red on my brother's gameboy when it first came out, but I've never touched any of the other games, except for that Nintendo 64 one where you take pictures of Pokemon. I wasn't aware of the whole choosing gender thing until this thread.
Pokemon Snap was AWESOME!!!!!!!! How they never made a version for the Wii is beyond me.
 
Pigeon Crow said:
Tomboy, being an internet person means I have no idea how to take your comments about being an asexual person, so do keep that in mind before retorting to what I'm about to say.

I already knew about the Internet Warriors for a long time, but SJW... it was from going to sf-drama on LiveJournal. There are enough rants there about internet asexuals that really soured me on the whole thing, in part because of what Tomboy brought up: namely, the part about asexuals 'taking over' the things from the rest of the LGBT lifestyle and such. I mean... my point of view is that if you actively cannot have sex with someone, such as because you've suffered abuse regarding it, then you have a point; if your problem is that you're not having sex and you're trying to look proud, and even come up with those demisexual/graysexual titles and what-not... then aren't you just an attention-seeking prick wanting to be holier-than-thou?

I mean, at least I have a legit reason for being screwed up on that aspect, and I don't try to 'embrace' it by claiming I'm a whateversexual and pretending that makes me JUST AS SPESHUL as a literally gay/lesbian person. I'm not 100% straight, but I favor that sexuality, so I'll call myself that. SJWs seem to be the type that would demand I write down something I'm not to support their cause and get them to have the same benefits as the minority groups they claim they support.

...shit, maybe that's why this bothers me so much, they behave like the government from my country and its relationship to poor people.

Naw I actually agree with you. I know a lot of asexuals want to be included in the LGBT community, but as for me, I could care less. I'm just not sexually attracted to anyone and that's the end of it. I'm not a prude, or celibate, nor did I ask to be born this way. Just am. It doesn't make up my identity nor is it something I stamp on myself for the world to know (I have a lesbian friend who literally won't ever shut up about being a lesbian.)
I never got the demi-sexual thing either. Being attracted to someone you're emotionally attached to? Isn't that....most people?
I just find it weird that LGBT supporters shun those aces that could be homoromantic, because if they're dating someone of the same sex, they would get the same shit thrown at them as a homosexual couple.
 
The latest bitchfit the SJWs are having is over the new Star Trek movie and the races of the character/actors. The main beef is the actor of Kahn being white. I also heard whining over the fact that Sulu's actor isn't Japanese (despite the fact that Sulu is Pan-Asian. "Sulu" isn't any Japanese family name I've ever heard of).

I swear, if I go to see Pacific Rim and someone there goes on a tirade about kaiju, mechs, and cultural appropriation, I'm gonna cold-cock them.
 
Ryan Rash said:
I swear, if I go to see Pacific Rim and someone there goes on a tirade about kaiju, mechs, and cultural appropriation, I'm gonna cold-cock them.
Please no. I really don't want my decent Gundam-esque movie experience to be ruined by 17-20 yr old white girls with dreads complaining that mechs should be left to the Japanese and that it's "animeist."
 
BigBoss said:
Ryan Rash said:
I swear, if I go to see Pacific Rim and someone there goes on a tirade about kaiju, mechs, and cultural appropriation, I'm gonna cold-cock them.
Please no. I really don't want my decent Gundam-esque movie experience to be ruined by white genderqueer demisexual 17-20 year-olds with dreads complaining that mechs should be left to the Japanese and that it's "animeist."

FTFY.

I actually accept the concept of non-binary gender. I'm on the fence about demisexuality, though.
 
DrChristianTroy said:
CalmMyTits said:
I have no issue playing male characters in games. I'm not going to cry that there's no Super Mario Sisters, Sonia the Hedgehog, Megawoman, etc. I have more important things in my life to take issue over.

I've only played a little bit of Pokemon Red on my brother's gameboy when it first came out, but I've never touched any of the other games, except for that Nintendo 64 one where you take pictures of Pokemon. I wasn't aware of the whole choosing gender thing until this thread.
Pokemon Snap was AWESOME!!!!!!!! How they never made a version for the Wii is beyond me.

I really enjoyed that Pokemon game, it WAS awesome!

And eh? That Super Mario Sisters game looks like fun, I'll download it for my emulator.
 
Tomboy said:
Pigeon Crow said:
Tomboy, being an internet person means I have no idea how to take your comments about being an asexual person, so do keep that in mind before retorting to what I'm about to say.

I already knew about the Internet Warriors for a long time, but SJW... it was from going to sf-drama on LiveJournal. There are enough rants there about internet asexuals that really soured me on the whole thing, in part because of what Tomboy brought up: namely, the part about asexuals 'taking over' the things from the rest of the LGBT lifestyle and such. I mean... my point of view is that if you actively cannot have sex with someone, such as because you've suffered abuse regarding it, then you have a point; if your problem is that you're not having sex and you're trying to look proud, and even come up with those demisexual/graysexual titles and what-not... then aren't you just an attention-seeking prick wanting to be holier-than-thou?

I mean, at least I have a legit reason for being screwed up on that aspect, and I don't try to 'embrace' it by claiming I'm a whateversexual and pretending that makes me JUST AS SPESHUL as a literally gay/lesbian person. I'm not 100% straight, but I favor that sexuality, so I'll call myself that. SJWs seem to be the type that would demand I write down something I'm not to support their cause and get them to have the same benefits as the minority groups they claim they support.

...shit, maybe that's why this bothers me so much, they behave like the government from my country and its relationship to poor people.

Naw I actually agree with you. I know a lot of asexuals want to be included in the LGBT community, but as for me, I could care less. I'm just not sexually attracted to anyone and that's the end of it. I'm not a prude, or celibate, nor did I ask to be born this way. Just am. It doesn't make up my identity nor is it something I stamp on myself for the world to know (I have a lesbian friend who literally won't ever shut up about being a lesbian.)
I never got the demi-sexual thing either. Being attracted to someone you're emotionally attached to? Isn't that....most people?
I just find it weird that LGBT supporters shun those aces that could be homoromantic, because if they're dating someone of the same sex, they would get the same shit thrown at them as a homosexual couple.
Internet asexuals, the type we're complaining about, are people who don't have sex but, I'm assuming, would if they only had a significant one. Now, I agree that our society is full of hang-ups regarding sexualization (where soap operas and public TV can be excessively sexualized and presented at times children can watch TV but OH NO THINK OF THE CHILDREN in other cases), but the fact is that sex is a normal aspect of living beings, since, you know, procreation.

Demisexuals and greysexuals argue that *everyone else* is a damn, dirty slutwhore because of the fact that casual sex exists.

Yes, I just overgeneralized that, but the point you get from those SJWs is this. They don't just want sex, they want to have sex with people but they want to make themselves feel SPESHUL for it without looking like whores, so they claim that they are a special brand of sexuality and not just someone who hasn't found the right person yet. I haven't either, but that doesn't mean I'm a whateversexual, it means I'm just not interested in casual sex and want to feel something meaningful with the person I have sex with.

Overall, internet asexuality just bothers me. It's like that guy who goes out hunting for girls every night and keeps a tally of how many he bangs every week, except now it doesn't even have sex so the girls just got pleasant dates that there will never be follow-ups to. Or worse, there's sex but the guy who's doing them doesn't even care about them so if to them it was something precious to him it's nothing.

As for the LGBT counter-aggression... I'm not really going to get into it since I'm not part of the 'Gay Pride Movement', but from what I get, the problem is that they read the homoromantic asexuals as 'we're ALREADY oppressed' when fact is that asexuality isn't 'oppressed' so much as misunderstood or ignored. Yes, you're not considered a normal sexuality just like homosexuals and there are bigots who are likely to make a thing out of it when there's no thing to be made since it's just a choice people make. That, however, is nothing compared to the actual suffering gay people have experienced throughout history, which is reported everywhere if you bother looking it up and that still happens even to this day.

I'm not sure how I'd put it in other terms... but I'm guessing part of the problem is that asexuals don't have a real 'stereotype'. You can make stereotypes for gay men and women easily enough, because you're literally switching their genders, so you have the guy who talks with a girly voice, likes ballet and pink and doesn't hesitate to leer at other men, and the carpet-licker butch who works out and hates men because they're men. Terrible stereotypes, but that's why they are. What do you do to stereotype an asexual person, besides 'doesn't like sex'? They don't stop dressing up like their physical identity. They don't start behaving like something they're not supposed to, like men suddenly start reading trashy romance novels and women start studying cars. If someone tries describing an asexual *outside* their very sexual identity, what makes him different from a 'straight' person?

Nothing. Asexuals don't like sex, and that's weird in our sexualized society, but that's not enough. And that's why the GLBT movement declares they're not going to 'share' their oppression, among other situations. Internet asexuals, in their view, are trying to get the benefits of gay liberalization ("I'm WEIRD! Now treat me better!") while being able to fall back on their non-gay privileges ("I'm not weird ENOUGH to be hated like THOSE weirdos!")

...also, if you really want to argue stereotypes, my understanding is that they claim asexuals are like Sherlock Holmes, and everyone knows how great he is, so asexuals are great people trufax.
 
CalmMyTits said:
And eh? That Super Mario Sisters game looks like fun, I'll download it for my emulator.

Kinda veering offtopic, but there's also a totally fucking awesome new game in the series.

(There's a PC version and I really, really liked the HEXBOX version, and I actually would love to see how well Chris does in this game once it'll be out on PS3. Would be right up his alley.)
 
Pigeon Crow said:
Tomboy said:
Pigeon Crow said:
Tomboy, being an internet person means I have no idea how to take your comments about being an asexual person, so do keep that in mind before retorting to what I'm about to say.

I already knew about the Internet Warriors for a long time, but SJW... it was from going to sf-drama on LiveJournal. There are enough rants there about internet asexuals that really soured me on the whole thing, in part because of what Tomboy brought up: namely, the part about asexuals 'taking over' the things from the rest of the LGBT lifestyle and such. I mean... my point of view is that if you actively cannot have sex with someone, such as because you've suffered abuse regarding it, then you have a point; if your problem is that you're not having sex and you're trying to look proud, and even come up with those demisexual/graysexual titles and what-not... then aren't you just an attention-seeking prick wanting to be holier-than-thou?

I mean, at least I have a legit reason for being screwed up on that aspect, and I don't try to 'embrace' it by claiming I'm a whateversexual and pretending that makes me JUST AS SPESHUL as a literally gay/lesbian person. I'm not 100% straight, but I favor that sexuality, so I'll call myself that. SJWs seem to be the type that would demand I write down something I'm not to support their cause and get them to have the same benefits as the minority groups they claim they support.

...shit, maybe that's why this bothers me so much, they behave like the government from my country and its relationship to poor people.

Naw I actually agree with you. I know a lot of asexuals want to be included in the LGBT community, but as for me, I could care less. I'm just not sexually attracted to anyone and that's the end of it. I'm not a prude, or celibate, nor did I ask to be born this way. Just am. It doesn't make up my identity nor is it something I stamp on myself for the world to know (I have a lesbian friend who literally won't ever shut up about being a lesbian.)
I never got the demi-sexual thing either. Being attracted to someone you're emotionally attached to? Isn't that....most people?
I just find it weird that LGBT supporters shun those aces that could be homoromantic, because if they're dating someone of the same sex, they would get the same shit thrown at them as a homosexual couple.
Internet asexuals, the type we're complaining about, are people who don't have sex but, I'm assuming, would if they only had a significant one. Now, I agree that our society is full of hang-ups regarding sexualization (where soap operas and public TV can be excessively sexualized and presented at times children can watch TV but OH NO THINK OF THE CHILDREN in other cases), but the fact is that sex is a normal aspect of living beings, since, you know, procreation.

Demisexuals and greysexuals argue that *everyone else* is a damn, dirty slutwhore because of the fact that casual sex exists.

Yes, I just overgeneralized that, but the point you get from those SJWs is this. They don't just want sex, they want to have sex with people but they want to make themselves feel SPESHUL for it without looking like whores, so they claim that they are a special brand of sexuality and not just someone who hasn't found the right person yet. I haven't either, but that doesn't mean I'm a whateversexual, it means I'm just not interested in casual sex and want to feel something meaningful with the person I have sex with.

Overall, internet asexuality just bothers me. It's like that guy who goes out hunting for girls every night and keeps a tally of how many he bangs every week, except now it doesn't even have sex so the girls just got pleasant dates that there will never be follow-ups to. Or worse, there's sex but the guy who's doing them doesn't even care about them so if to them it was something precious to him it's nothing.

As for the LGBT counter-aggression... I'm not really going to get into it since I'm not part of the 'Gay Pride Movement', but from what I get, the problem is that they read the homoromantic asexuals as 'we're ALREADY oppressed' when fact is that asexuality isn't 'oppressed' so much as misunderstood or ignored. Yes, you're not considered a normal sexuality just like homosexuals and there are bigots who are likely to make a thing out of it when there's no thing to be made since it's just a choice people make. That, however, is nothing compared to the actual suffering gay people have experienced throughout history, which is reported everywhere if you bother looking it up and that still happens even to this day.

I'm not sure how I'd put it in other terms... but I'm guessing part of the problem is that asexuals don't have a real 'stereotype'. You can make stereotypes for gay men and women easily enough, because you're literally switching their genders, so you have the guy who talks with a girly voice, likes ballet and pink and doesn't hesitate to leer at other men, and the carpet-licker butch who works out and hates men because they're men. Terrible stereotypes, but that's why they are. What do you do to stereotype an asexual person, besides 'doesn't like sex'? They don't stop dressing up like their physical identity. They don't start behaving like something they're not supposed to, like men suddenly start reading trashy romance novels and women start studying cars. If someone tries describing an asexual *outside* their very sexual identity, what makes him different from a 'straight' person?

Nothing. Asexuals don't like sex, and that's weird in our sexualized society, but that's not enough. And that's why the GLBT movement declares they're not going to 'share' their oppression, among other situations. Internet asexuals, in their view, are trying to get the benefits of gay liberalization ("I'm WEIRD! Now treat me better!") while being able to fall back on their non-gay privileges ("I'm not weird ENOUGH to be hated like THOSE weirdos!")

...also, if you really want to argue stereotypes, my understanding is that they claim asexuals are like Sherlock Holmes, and everyone knows how great he is, so asexuals are great people trufax.

I haven't met many of these 'internet asexuals' you speak of since I'm not in any online communities (and don't care to be.) Just the few things I've seen on tumblr. I'm by no means oppressed, and I'm perfectly aware of the suffering homosexuals go through. I don't think I said anywhere that I was (or asexuals) were oppressed. Because we're not. The only thing I know of are some getting raped for refusing sex, but then again, rape can happen to anyone obviously. But yes, they're not gonna be refused a job or such because they're asexual. I'll stand by what I say about homoromantics, since I both know a homoromantic asexual that looks "butch" and dates girls who has been denied a job twice and gets ridiculed by bigots in public, as well as a transgender asexual who has been refused housing on counts of their identity. Not the asexual part, but the homo/trans part. I think they belong with the LGBT label. The asexuality doesn't matter as much as the other labels. Whether or not they're fucking a significant other shouldn't matter.
The "grey-A" and "demi" sexualities...even I don't get the point of them. -shrugs-
If people wanna slap on a SPESHUL sexuality label for the sake of looking SPESHUL, that's not my problem. I don't think it's much different than the girls I knew back when I was in high school who pretended to be Bisexual because it was trendy and made out with girls to look SPESHUL, even though deep down they were as straight as a pin.
I'm sorry that it angers you so much. Most people I know who are ace, as well as I, don't give a shit. The fact that I don't like sex and aren't sexually attracted to anyone (and never have been, in fact I didn't discover asexuality was even a thing until a year or so ago, when my friend suggested that's what I was) doesn't matter. I'm not trying to be SPESHUL, I'm not trying to get "benefits" or looking to be oppressed (who wants to anyways? This privilege bullshit has become so trendy, people act like it's cool to be a victim.)
I'm not gonna call myself straight if I'm not sexually attracted to men.
I'm not gonna call myself lesbian if I'm not sexually attracted to women.
I don't think it's fair to lump all asexuals into the WE'RE DIFFERENT SO WE'RE SPESHUL label, because I personally don't care. I don't even bring it up unless the topic arises.
 
WWWWolf said:
CalmMyTits said:
And eh? That Super Mario Sisters game looks like fun, I'll download it for my emulator.

Kinda veering offtopic, but there's also a totally fucking awesome new game in the series.

(There's a PC version and I really, really liked the HEXBOX version, and I actually would love to see how well Chris does in this game once it'll be out on PS3. Would be right up his alley.)

Thanks, but I only play old games. I do not have any of the new platforms. all of my gaming is done via my laptop, mainly emulation, NES/SNES/Sega Genesis/Game Boy. I only ever get to play new games if I am at a friend's house or some such.
 
Tomboy said:
Pigeon Crow said:
Internet asexuals, the type we're complaining about, are people who don't have sex but, I'm assuming, would if they only had a significant one. Now, I agree that our society is full of hang-ups regarding sexualization (where soap operas and public TV can be excessively sexualized and presented at times children can watch TV but OH NO THINK OF THE CHILDREN in other cases), but the fact is that sex is a normal aspect of living beings, since, you know, procreation.

Demisexuals and greysexuals argue that *everyone else* is a damn, dirty slutwhore because of the fact that casual sex exists.

Yes, I just overgeneralized that, but the point you get from those SJWs is this. They don't just want sex, they want to have sex with people but they want to make themselves feel SPESHUL for it without looking like whores, so they claim that they are a special brand of sexuality and not just someone who hasn't found the right person yet. I haven't either, but that doesn't mean I'm a whateversexual, it means I'm just not interested in casual sex and want to feel something meaningful with the person I have sex with.

Overall, internet asexuality just bothers me. It's like that guy who goes out hunting for girls every night and keeps a tally of how many he bangs every week, except now it doesn't even have sex so the girls just got pleasant dates that there will never be follow-ups to. Or worse, there's sex but the guy who's doing them doesn't even care about them so if to them it was something precious to him it's nothing.

As for the LGBT counter-aggression... I'm not really going to get into it since I'm not part of the 'Gay Pride Movement', but from what I get, the problem is that they read the homoromantic asexuals as 'we're ALREADY oppressed' when fact is that asexuality isn't 'oppressed' so much as misunderstood or ignored. Yes, you're not considered a normal sexuality just like homosexuals and there are bigots who are likely to make a thing out of it when there's no thing to be made since it's just a choice people make. That, however, is nothing compared to the actual suffering gay people have experienced throughout history, which is reported everywhere if you bother looking it up and that still happens even to this day.

I'm not sure how I'd put it in other terms... but I'm guessing part of the problem is that asexuals don't have a real 'stereotype'. You can make stereotypes for gay men and women easily enough, because you're literally switching their genders, so you have the guy who talks with a girly voice, likes ballet and pink and doesn't hesitate to leer at other men, and the carpet-licker butch who works out and hates men because they're men. Terrible stereotypes, but that's why they are. What do you do to stereotype an asexual person, besides 'doesn't like sex'? They don't stop dressing up like their physical identity. They don't start behaving like something they're not supposed to, like men suddenly start reading trashy romance novels and women start studying cars. If someone tries describing an asexual *outside* their very sexual identity, what makes him different from a 'straight' person?

Nothing. Asexuals don't like sex, and that's weird in our sexualized society, but that's not enough. And that's why the GLBT movement declares they're not going to 'share' their oppression, among other situations. Internet asexuals, in their view, are trying to get the benefits of gay liberalization ("I'm WEIRD! Now treat me better!") while being able to fall back on their non-gay privileges ("I'm not weird ENOUGH to be hated like THOSE weirdos!")

...also, if you really want to argue stereotypes, my understanding is that they claim asexuals are like Sherlock Holmes, and everyone knows how great he is, so asexuals are great people trufax.

I haven't met many of these 'internet asexuals' you speak of since I'm not in any online communities (and don't care to be.) Just the few things I've seen on tumblr. I'm by no means oppressed, and I'm perfectly aware of the suffering homosexuals go through. I don't think I said anywhere that I was (or asexuals) were oppressed. Because we're not. The only thing I know of are some getting raped for refusing sex, but then again, rape can happen to anyone obviously. But yes, they're not gonna be refused a job or such because they're asexual. I'll stand by what I say about homoromantics, since I both know a homoromantic asexual that looks "butch" and dates girls who has been denied a job twice and gets ridiculed by bigots in public, as well as a transgender asexual who has been refused housing on counts of their identity. Not the asexual part, but the homo/trans part. I think they belong with the LGBT label. The asexuality doesn't matter as much as the other labels. Whether or not they're fucking a significant other shouldn't matter.
The "grey-A" and "demi" sexualities...even I don't get the point of them. -shrugs-
If people wanna slap on a SPESHUL sexuality label for the sake of looking SPESHUL, that's not my problem. I don't think it's much different than the girls I knew back when I was in high school who pretended to be Bisexual because it was trendy and made out with girls to look SPESHUL, even though deep down they were as straight as a pin.
I'm sorry that it angers you so much. Most people I know who are ace, as well as I, don't give a shit. The fact that I don't like sex and aren't sexually attracted to anyone (and never have been, in fact I didn't discover asexuality was even a thing until a year or so ago, when my friend suggested that's what I was) doesn't matter. I'm not trying to be SPESHUL, I'm not trying to get "benefits" or looking to be oppressed (who wants to anyways? This privilege bullshit has become so trendy, people act like it's cool to be a victim.)
I'm not gonna call myself straight if I'm not sexually attracted to men.
I'm not gonna call myself lesbian if I'm not sexually attracted to women.
I don't think it's fair to lump all asexuals into the WE'RE DIFFERENT SO WE'RE SPESHUL label, because I personally don't care. I don't even bring it up unless the topic arises.
Regarding the first part of your argument... I agree with you that your friends qualify for it, because they're lesbians or transexual. The 'has sex' part is irrelevant to the label... which is why it bothers the movement that the internet asexuals make it relevant. Though because internet asexuality is such a new subject for me and all (learned of it this year), I can't make more of an argument. (Sorry if it sounded like I was trying to pick a fight or something.) Back in the GLS days, they'd probably qualify as the S if they really didn't want to be a part of the L. (...maybe this is why it's a problem? I don't really know why that label was so bad, either.)

I'm not sure if I'm angry so much as bothered. My sexual life is... complicated, and awful. I'm not so much ashamed of it as I don't know how to discuss it because it is absolutely non-standard. But that whole privilege thing is probably a part of it; one glance at me and I'm just a part of the WASP problem when it's more complicated than that, but on the internet who cares what a guy who defines himself as white ('wrongly') thinks?

You're a cool asexual in my eyes, at least. Maybe we don't agree about that last bit but I'm not going to flip a lid about your personal opinions regarding 'what are asexuals'. Maybe things will change in one year and I'll have a new view of things.
 
Ryan Rash said:
The latest bitchfit the SJWs are having is over the new Star Trek movie and the races of the character/actors. The main beef is the actor of Kahn being white.

So if Ricardo Montalban was white, and they cast, say, Mos Def in the new role as Kahn, they'd probably throw just as huge of a bitch-fit. Sorry, I forgot that we have to perfectly match up ethnic names in an action-space movie.
 
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