Social Justice Warriors

[Judge Holden]

Only vaguely related but this is so fcking stupid I just needed to put it up on this thread

http://doctorwhoandrace.com/book/

The book that exposes doctor who as evil racist propaganda for it's unforgivable sins of

- having one doctor be a cricket fan makes him racist... because britain likes cricket and anything britain likes is clearly racist
- having the first doctor in the early 60s use the term "red indians" makes the next 40 years of the show racist
- having one of the black companions not being written as a mary sue makes the shows writers as brainless "white boys" who should never have been allowed to write black characters
- not rewriting human history to fix whatever the book's writers happen to have a bawwfest over at any particular moment makes the show a defender of slavery
- making fun of Hitler but not taking him "sthuper stherious" means the show demans the holocasust
- the doctor having a companion from a primitive alien culture... makes the show racist against non western societies, as does his belief in scientific progress

seriously, I cant think of any show that hammers it into the viewers head that racisim and ]imperialism is ALWAYS wrong more than Doctor who, but I guess since the show does not obsessively pander to the hysterical sensitivities of these weepy self righteous prags it must therefore be evil racist propaganda for western imperialists. This is almost as pathetic as that "Allecto" blogger freak on ED who went on a dozen page tirade about how racist and sexist firefly was for having a black woman be married to a white man among other far more stupid reasons.

The latest bitchfit the SJWs are having is over the new Star Trek movie and the races of the character/actors. The main beef is the actor of Kahn being white.

So if Ricardo Montalban was white, and they cast, say, Mos Def in the new role as Kahn, they'd probably throw just as huge of a bitch-fit. Sorry, I forgot that we have to perfectly match up ethnic names in an action-space movie.

Exactly, if they had gotten "their way" the exact same freaks who are shrieking "RACISM!!!" now would be doing the exact same thing if Khan was back to being "indian" because it depicts him as an evil terrorist

I guess self righteous and delusional fuckwads have far too much time on their hands in general, and it is far easier to throw a tantrum over non existant racism in fiction rather than actually tackle serious issues

 

[Springblossom]

Only vaguely related but this is so fcking stupid I just needed to put it up on this thread

http://doctorwhoandrace.com/book/

You know, I'd love to see a show written and run by these self-righteous overly-politically correct types. It would be the worst thing.

 

[Dark Mirror Hole]

 

[cypocryphy]

Ricardo Montalban is likely mostly of Spanish descent which would in fact make him white. SJW's are really fuckin' clueless when it comes to anything outside the U.S.

 

[KatsuKitty]

Oh boy. This type. I see a lot of this in the gay community, and it's very obnoxious. Every little thing you do is picked apart and highlighted as wrong, almost on a religious-scrupulous or OCD level. The more guilt you feel, the better points you score with the SJ god. Look, I'm sorry if my idle use of "retarded", "faggy", "jew down", or "indian giver" upsets someone, but aren't we all adult enough and smart enough to realize that stereotypes are borderline-comical exaggerations and that simple words aren't enough to convey our feelings about someone? Do we really need to behave like we're five again and let one of seven dirty words carry this mystical wrongness?

Another thing that gets me is the whole "gender-variant" mess. I've done extensive scientific readup on the concept of gender identity, and I can tell you as far as psych journals go, the non-binary crowd is full of it. Not a single, reputable academic journal has ever theorized the existence of a third gender on the level that would cause people the same kinds of dysphoria that genuine transsexuality does. What they don't seem to understand is that you can be a feminine male or masculine female without inventing a gaggle of wacky pronouns and demanding that they be stamped on government forms, portrayed in video games, given their own bathrooms, and expecting the psychic foreknowledge of their pronoun AND identity from everyone they meet. I mean, in effect, "masculine female" and "feminine male" are closer approximations of what they call "genderqueer", rather than this "ze" canard that gets tossed around. And it's detrimental too, because people are giving themselves dysphoria over it, trying their damndest to be something that doesn't even exist. I've seen it already. Worst of all, it's giving rise to a demand for Frankensteinian anatomical butchery that (thankfully) remains checked by more rational medical gatekeepers; I wish I could find that one article that discussed one's desire for a "gender confirming" surgery that allowed both a penis and a vagina. This is absolutely not the same as someone having SRS from one gender to the next. This is behavior that verges on Bodily Integrity Identity Disorder (the "transabled" crowd, another SJ subculture, is already beginning its efforts to depathologize that one).

Most frighteningly? In the gay community, this is pseudoscience that's spreading like wildfire. No infographic describing the very real phenomon of transsexuality seems to go without the mention of "genderqueer", "genderfluid", "agender", and similar baloney.

 

[homerbeoulve]

"Men's privileges." Says the feminists. XD

 

[MysticMisty]

This is almost as pathetic as that "Allecto" blogger freak on ED who went on a dozen page tirade about how racist and sexist firefly was for having a black woman be married to a white man among other far more stupid reasons.

That sounds a lot like the depressingly real controversy about an early version of Disney's The Princess and The Frog. The main character was deemed racist for being too black and how dare the prince be a white man, that's racist too, because fuck racial barriers. And the name "Maddie" sounds too much like "Mammy" so that's racist too (more like, how dare she have a white person name, she has to have a black person name). Some of this was bad enough that they changed the design of the main character and made the prince a black man. Then they complained she was "too white" and having 1930's New Orleans as the setting is disrespectful to Katrina survivors.

You can't fucking please anyone.

Ricardo Montalban is likely mostly of Spanish descent which would in fact make him white. SJW's are really fuckin' clueless when it comes to anything outside the U.S.

For some reason, a lot of people expect the Spanish to be as dark as Mexicans, despite the fact that they're Europeans. I saw a review for that movie about a family's survival during and after the 2004 tsunami (can't remember the name and I don't feel like looking it up, sorry). Apparently they were Spanish in real life, but British in the movie. This isn't that big a deal because most people don't want to read subtitles for an entire movie, and the "speaking English but in a X accent' thing is just too corny and lazy to be taken seriously. But this reviewer made a big deal about the Spanish-to-British change and kept angrily referring to the characters as being pale and fair-haired (or something like that). Goddammit, if they were Spanish they likely were pale (or at least paler then the reviewer thought they would be) and fair-haired (natural or dyed). Why can't Americans realize that Spanish is very much not the same as Mexican?

 

[c-no]

Why can't Americans realize that Spanish is very much not the same as Mexican?

Perhaps most of my countrymen do not realize that Spanish=/=Mexican because they don't look at a globe and look up the difference between a Mexican and a Spaniard. Seriously, they have the internet, a quick google search can bring them a result in knowing the ethnic difference. They may think Spanish=Mexican because they think it refers to the language of Mexico, nevermind that the Spanish language is like other languages such as English: it has it's own variations such as American English and British English.

 

[Judge Holden]

Ricardo Montalban is likely mostly of Spanish descent which would in fact make him white. SJW's are really fuckin' clueless when it comes to anything outside the U.S.

Or the UK, Canada, or Australia where many others reside

What the hell is it about the anglosphere that breeds this flavor of self indulgent and self pitying cretins?

 

[Night Terror]

Apparently the anglosphere churns out supremely bored teenage girls who need things to bitch about/to feel special and noticed.

 

[Ryan Rash]

Ricardo Montalban is likely mostly of Spanish descent which would in fact make him white. SJW's are really fuckin' clueless when it comes to anything outside the U.S.

Or the UK, Canada, or Australia where many others reside

What the hell is it about the anglosphere that breeds this flavor of self indulgent and self pitying cretins?

A friend of mine described it as a case of white guilt from hell: young Caucassian people feeling guilty about their lot in life being not terrible, and attempting to compensate by demonizing whitey.

 

[Springblossom]

Ricardo Montalban is likely mostly of Spanish descent which would in fact make him white. SJW's are really fuckin' clueless when it comes to anything outside the U.S.

Or the UK, Canada, or Australia where many others reside

What the hell is it about the anglosphere that breeds this flavor of self indulgent and self pitying cretins?

A friend of mine described it as a case of white guilt from hell: young Caucassian people feeling guilty about their lot in life being not terrible, and attempting to compensate by demonizing whitey.

How do you feel guilty about what you're born with? I didn't ask to be born to a white middle class family in the USA, I don't feel guilty about it. I feel pretty comfortable in my sexuality and gender identity, I'm sure as hell not going to feel guilty about that.

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

There is an actual point to the Khan argument. Khan, in canon, is supposed to rule 1/4 of the earth's population by that point in history/Stardate/whatevs, being a perfect genetic blend of all that the human race had to offer. Roddenberry himself was the one who pointed out that if you genetically united all the best of human potential into one person, statistically, that man or woman would not look white. Khan, in the original movies, was deeply respected (even while being a villain) for the admirable qualities he actually had before walking right off the deep end, and he was very clearly canonically South Asian. To cast a plainly mediocre actor like Binglebum Curdlesnoot (who is sort of a god to Tumblr asexuals, so I guess JJ Abrams is catering to them now?) as this guy is just boring, and implies there are literally no good actors of Indian descent in the world -- and is taking a job away from some better actor of whatever descent. It's kind of like the Avatar: the Last Airbender live-action film, especially if you took the most prominent female character from that canon and made her into a weepy girlfriend-sidekick too.

Tl;dr = if you want to go after someone for excessive PCism in insisting on the ethnicity of Khan, dig up Roddenberry, wear him as a coat, and yell at him about it.

 

[Judge Holden]

Ricardo Montalban is likely mostly of Spanish descent which would in fact make him white. SJW's are really fuckin' clueless when it comes to anything outside the U.S.

Or the UK, Canada, or Australia where many others reside

What the hell is it about the anglosphere that breeds this flavor of self indulgent and self pitying cretins?

A friend of mine described it as a case of white guilt from hell: young Caucassian people feeling guilty about their lot in life being not terrible, and attempting to compensate by demonizing whitey.

I disagree, i would put it to the desperate need to feel morally and intellectually "superior" to all the mindless sheep around them, and to pretend that by whining they are somehow battling some great and hideous evil that puts them next to those like MLK in terms of heroic "resistance" against decadent, brainwashed, and bigoted society.

However, wheras in third/second world nations there almost always active and very large religious/political/nationalist extremist groups, in many cases sponsored by the governments or other powerful bodies, to which they can safely pledge themselves to in order feel this superiority (again without actually doing anything but goosestepping in line and shouting the right slogans0, first world nations like the US and Britain do not have any where close to that level of popular extremism.

Such groups exist sure, both on the left (to take a UK example the myriad of tiny "socialist worker/revolutionary parties") and the right (such as the BNP in the UK), but are both mainly made up of bitter middle aged and elderly losers still pissy over their prefered dogma not winning them the support they believed it would in the 60s-80s, and more importantly are basically taboo to join up in polite and modern society which would be too scary for these types of people.

Similarly they are unwilling to join up with any mainstream group (like most feminist, gay rights, social justice, and other such societies) since such groups tend to be both rational and not aimed at engaging in hateful tirades against "Da man/the establishment" as in most cases such groups are dependant on and have a big stake in staying in the good graces of "da man/the establishment" in today's more open and progressive society, and do not want any excuse to be cast as "hateful man/straight/rich hating anarchists who are coming for you and your chillen", and are thus highly unwelcoming of stuck up arsewipes who want nothing but a forum to pander to their sense of moral/intellectual supremacy

Thus taking to the internet to coalesce their stupidity and self righteousness is considered a far more preferable way of validating their smug senses of superiority and importance in a safe environment. This is why such groups are in perpetual states of horror and BAWWWWWWWWWWWWW over trolls and other critical internetters.

Due also to their hiding on friendly internet havens for their dogma rather than open forums for ideas and identities (like this one amusingly enough) whatever "cause" they latch on to will be kept sealed in an echo chamber where it can only get more radical and more hateful (i reference the love shy sites for a perfect example of this) until specimens such as the "KILL/CASTRATE ALL MEN" radical feminists, or the "YOU USED A WORD THAT XXXXXX YEARS AGO MIGHT HAVE BEEN VAGUELY NON PC AND THUS ARE A DIRTY RACIST/SEXIST/TRANSPHOBE/HOMOPHOBE!!!" pc thugs.

 

[A Random]

There is an actual point to the Khan argument. Khan, in canon, is supposed to rule 1/4 of the earth's population by that point in history/Stardate/whatevs, being a perfect genetic blend of all that the human race had to offer. Roddenberry himself was the one who pointed out that if you genetically united all the best of human potential into one person, statistically, that man or woman would not look white. Khan, in the original movies, was deeply respected (even while being a villain) for the admirable qualities he actually had before walking right off the deep end, and he was very clearly canonically South Asian. To cast a plainly mediocre actor like Binglebum Curdlesnoot (who is sort of a god to Tumblr asexuals, so I guess JJ Abrams is catering to them now?) as this guy is just boring, and implies there are literally no good actors of Indian descent in the world -- and is taking a job away from some better actor of whatever descent. It's kind of like the Avatar: the Last Airbender live-action film, especially if you took the most prominent female character from that canon and made her into a weepy girlfriend-sidekick too.

Tl;dr = if you want to go after someone for excessive PCism in insisting on the ethnicity of Khan, dig up Roddenberry, wear him as a coat, and yell at him about it.

Hahaha.

Also, speaking of Avatar and Social Justice, I'm not sure where this falls in: the kid who played the Avatar was actually Native-American, but the studio was mum on it and let people think he was WASP-class on purpose or something.

And Cucumberdick is the god they fap to, because he's their asexual idol or whatever the F they want. I can't even bring myself to look at Sherlock because of the fanbase's behavior. ("WHY THE FUCK DID DOWNTOWN ABBEY WIN A PRIZE IT'S A SHIT SHOW LET'S SPAM THEIR HASHTAGS THE FUCKERS").

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

Well of course Natives can't ACT. My god. Then they would have had to cast someone less overplayed than Johnny Depp as Tonto, but he can keep the name because it still, today, not 6000 years ago means "stupid" anyway, even though in the radio show and comics alike he was constantly saving the Lone Ranger's arse. In fact, that's how they covered the switch when the original radio actor died -- the Ranger was terribly ill, Tonto was caring for him, and he couldn't speak for about two weeks. Then he came back as a new voice actor, and no1curr.

But yeah, the Aang and Khan situations are kind of similar -- maybe M. Night Shamalamadingdong is even worse in whitewashing not just the role, but the actual actor. Is there something shameful about being Native now, when white folk all over the US (see: Chandlers, Robert and Chris) are so incredibly eager to claim even a shred of Native blood? (Sometimes it's been used to explain away suspiciously dark skin or large noses in white families where the blood admixture is actually African American. Wouldn't that just produce DIRTY CRAPPED BRIEFS if Chris were actually 1/16 someone he wouldn't date?)

 

[WWWWolf]

What they don't seem to understand is that you can be a feminine male or masculine female without inventing a gaggle of wacky pronouns and demanding that they be stamped on government forms, portrayed in video games, given their own bathrooms, and expecting the psychic foreknowledge of their pronoun AND identity from everyone they meet.

Yep. If people really have gender issues, I do support that people think them over pretty hard because these are all complicated questions. I know I've had hard time getting grips of my masculine and feminine sides. It can be a confusing process. When I was thinking this over, I ultimately just came to the conclusion that it's easier to just think of a summary of how to best describe me. It really isn't that hard. "Well, I'm a guy. Who has this pretty noticeable feminine streak too. You can't see it all the time in everything I do, but don't freak out when you run into it. Part of my personality. Deal." Like you said, I don't really need to describe myself as "genderqueer" - I'm just a guy with a personality. (...hey, I might use that.)

But this wouldn't do in SJW crowd. No, they expect everyone to describe their tendencies in a gaggle of really, really narrowly defined terms. Open up a random tumblr and you'll find the blogger is a semimale acombomatic haplosexual demiquasidormant heliodeliphiloboschromic luggagekin who is currently questioning xir ethnicity.

So a rather burning question arises: If your average member of LGBT community can't make sense of these terms, how do they expect the great public to make sense of these terms? Oh wait, no, they don't expect them to make sense of these terms. "It's not my job to educate you!"

So my big objection is that the LGBT community - and medical professionals and psychologists - tend to come up with specific terms because agreeing on specific terms is part of easing communication. The overly specific terms that SJWs have usually come up with aren't there to ease communication. Hell, if you manage to crack the code, you're probably evil in their books. No, they usually rely on the fact that no one can decipher this stuff so the SJWs can forcefully explain how clueless this person is. It's used as a minefield.

And the "preferred pronouns" stuff is probably the most ridiculous thing of all. Pronouns are important in all languages and communication. You don't want to screw up such an essential part of communication. So of course, SJWs turn that part of communication into yet another minefield. Use a wrong pronoun and you're accused of "misgendering". Fun fact: many languages don't have gendered personal pronouns. The alternative English pronouns (e.g. "xe") were linguistic suggestions that didn't catch wind. Singular "they" is perfectly valid in English. If you really want to advocate sanity on personal pronoun use, use "they" as indefinite and "he" and "she" as applicable. Surprisingly few people want to deliberately use the wrong pronouns - if someone's being a dick about someone's gender, it's usually pretty apparent. (...well, it's usually apparent unless you're a psychopath with a tumblr account, at least.) Communication as a social system is also largely about not making too many assumptions about the language the other party is using, all this insistence on special terminology and pronouns tends to fail that.

 

[ON 190]

Tl;dr = if you want to go after someone for excessive PCism in insisting on the ethnicity of Khan, dig up Roddenberry, wear him as a coat, and yell at him about it.

Honestly, I tend to listen to anyone screaming at me while wearing someone else's skin.

 

[derpi]

http://thisisthinprivilege.tumblr.com/
If you need a good dosing of rage and hatred today.
"HALP I'M SO SAD BECAUSE I COULDN'T EAT AN ENTIRE CHEESECAKE TODAY WAAAH ;-;"

And the troll blog response to it (because you'll need it)
http://this-is-fat-privilege.tumblr.com/

Because now being so privileged that you can afford to eat yourself to death is actually something to complain about.

 

[WWWWolf]

http://thisisthinprivilege.tumblr.com/

And the logical continuation of that rhetoric: http://bicyclistprivilege.tumblr.com/