🗑️ Trashfire Slazo / Michael Kucharski - Youtuber gets falsely accused of raping and severely abusing his girlfriend, massive shitshow ensues

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Who do you believe the most?

  • Slazo

    Votes: 287 61.3%
  • FiZZIP0P (ex-GF)

    Votes: 72 15.4%
  • Believe all wahmen

    Votes: 161 34.4%

  • Total voters
    468
Before i write anything i want to put something in context for people. Bowblax, Nick DiOrio, Tommy C and Clown are all in the same boat. They're all people that have worked with or for one another. They're all very much pro-slazo and they all have gained quite a bit from Slazo "being on the right".

1. The first thing i noticed is the contrast between Bowblax and Nick DiOrio videos. For one Nick seems to actively want to give the impression that Bowblax was friends with Alexx and he just attended a call which is false. Bowblax called it an interview but Nick framed it as " it was just a random call i happened to attend where alex was venting". Bowblax painted Alex as an idiot though not malicious but Nick seems actively vengeful. He claimed Alex spammed him but showed 5 messages. Then there was the claim about Alexx threatening Nick with legal action which is a give or take since in the DMs he showed Alexx was clearly not speaking with Nick but rather a third party who was trying to get the two in contact.

2. It's funny how the time Slazo spent with Alex keeps decreasing. The first time i heard it it was 3 months, then it went down to 2 months, then down to 3 weeks, Alex claims it was 3 days at most while Nick claims it was a week (which of course he doesn't show proof for how he came to that conclusion).

3. Nick seems keen on making everything Alex said seem like a lie. Like at one point Alex was giving some crackpot theories about Slazo and Nick claimed they were lies even though Nick himself said that they were just assumptions and guesses by Alex.

4. This is a juicy one. A few people had a crack at drafting Chey's twitlonger or at the very least helped write it.

5. One of the motives given was that while Slazo wasn't uploading on youtube he said that his reddit channel was bringing in a lot of money? I have no clue how that shit works so if someone could explain it that would be much appreciated.

6. We again see the claim that someone in the group knew a year prior. We don't know who it was, we don't know how Nick found out so i'm just gonna throw this claim in the bind.

7. Another juicy one. Alex claimed that there are other accusations and that they will come in a second wave, 2 weeks from the interview which is an odd thing to say but hopefully these do come out.

8. Now this is the interview portion and i'll compress it in one paragraph. Despite being on a social media hiatus he was more than willing to go on a podcast with a bunch of pro-slazo people for an interview. Now the thing i find fascinating is that all the people in that podcast are Slazo ass lickers. He could have very well gotten away with just saying " No this isn't true." and Tommy C, Nick and Clown would have swallowed it but instead with all the accusations he tries to...sort of excuse himself. They nudes weren't REALLY abuse of power. It was fine i made out with the girl because i was ALSO drunk. The most damning thing is in regards to an ex of his who had relapsed into self harm. The story goes that the girl relapsed into self harm, called up slazo, slazo went to her place to keep her company while editing videos, the girl is piss drunk, he gets piss drunk knowing she isn't well and that they have sex. Slazo confirms everything but he claims that they were actuall friends with benefits at the time and they had sex the next morning, not the night they got drunk. Even assuming no sex happened why on earth would you think that the best thing to do with a piss drunk self-harmer is to also get piss drunk? He also says that he had the thought that if he also got drunk he could have sex with her. Again very weird thing to think when you know the person is a self harmer in relapse. There was also the accusation that Slazo tried to pay hush money to Chey to which his response was that he may at some point have offered her money but that it wasn't as a bribe, take it as you will.

9. Slazo confirmed that he did infact pressure Chey to get off anti-depresants so she could have a higher sex drive. He did this weird thing where he claimed that sometimes he was telling her to change her anti-depresants and sometimes he was telling her to get off them. Rather he was pressuring her to change anti-depresants or get of them it's still scumy as hell.


On side note there were so many small cuts in the interview which probably means that Slazo had a lot of pauses between sentence where he thought about what to say. Take that as you will. Honestly i think the interview made him look worst if anything and i am actually curious to see what this second wave of accusations contains.

You have a lot of time on your hands to be caring this much about a community of 15 year olds
 
Shit's getting spicy

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Archive of Kavos's tweets @ Alex - https://archive.fo/L8PTv
Archive of Keem's response @ Alex - https://archive.fo/wgrqt

Even Jim's now following this shit:
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So what exactly does Alex mean by "Donald Dark cucked Pyro".
Just going off what cucked typically means, it insinuates that Pyro 'allowed' Hyojin to sleep with Dolan Dark and got off on it. Or that he 'allowed' Hyojin to sleep with Dolan just when he wasn't around (considering he's in England and Hyojin is in Australia, idk how they thought that long distance would work, but even then, isn't Dolan from New Zealand?). Or that Hyojin just cheated on him with Dolan, which seems to me to be the least likely option because from what I can tell, Pyro still likes Dolan and hasn't said anything negative about him or Hyojin. So who knows.
 
Just going off what cucked typically means, it insinuates that Pyro 'allowed' Hyojin to sleep with Dolan Dark and got off on it. Or that he 'allowed' Hyojin to sleep with Dolan just when he wasn't around (considering he's in England and Hyojin is in Australia, idk how they thought that long distance would work, but even then, isn't Dolan from New Zealand?). Or that Hyojin just cheated on him with Dolan, which seems to me to be the least likely option because from what I can tell, Pyro still likes Dolan and hasn't said anything negative about him or Hyojin. So who knows.
Wow, why was I overthinking it that much? I thought he meant cucked in a "fucked him over" sense.

I'm willing to bet these new allegations are going to be completely fabricated. Honestly I hope they are. It would be nice to see this done and over with. But it's so much more fun watching them dig their own hole! And spiral downhill. Less work for everyone else!
Wonder if Alex has tried out his new butthole yet?
 
You have a lot of time on your hands to be caring this much about a community of 15 year olds
More like 40 minutes out of my day. I always find these comments funny because you're saying this in a forum specifically about gossiping and talking shit about these people so...maybe you're the one that is in the wrong place?

The chats and the screenshots are one month apart. We don't have a timeline of when who found out what so you can't really use the photos as evidence for anything. Also it's worth noting that keem star is notoriously ass mad at Alex.

I hope whatever stream Metokur decides to do on this he does it on youtube instead of trying to harvest more Chinese lemons.

I'm on the fence about the anti-depressants and the sex drive thing. If this pills effected her sex drive enough that she noticed, was able to attribute it as being a side effect of these pills, and it bothered her enough to tell her boyfriend, then it was clearly bothering her and she wanted a solution and changing meds might have been a fix, so I don't think he was shitty for suggesting trying other meds. But it was shitty to say to quit taking them.

Anti-depresants are notorious for decreasing things like sex drive, it's all in the back of the bottle and i'd be hard pressed to find one that doesn't have that listed as a side-effect. Rather it was Slazo, Chey or both of them that made that connection it doesn't matter to me. Here is why i think it's still scummy.
We don't know for how long Chey was taking them but if Slazo had to try and pressure her to change them i assume they worked for her and didn't cause her enough discomfort to go to her doctor and get another perscription (it's not especially hard to do). You don't know how a person will react to anti-depresants until they've been taking them for a month or two and that person could very well have a bad reaction or degenerate their condition. The fact that Slazo was willing to risk his girlfriend getting fucked up for 2 months just so he could get more pussy is very scummy and the fact that he suggested both changing them AND getting off them means that he didn't care as long as he got more sex, again pretty slimy.
 
Some updates that might clear up confusion. Unicorn Powers, a girl that was named in Nick's video, claimed that she was thrown under the bus by Alex and that she had nothing to do with the Twitlonger besides knowing everybody. She also reached out to Michael privately and apologised. If her story is true, Alex might have named Pyrocynical to distract from himself.

Turkey Tom is also making a second video due to developments between Hyojin and Dolan Dark, as well as Chey's response being planned for next week. Given his last video I'm not expecting anything ground-breaking, but maybe he'll do something decent this time.

Mister Metokur has also taken interest in the drama due to Nick's video. It's possible he might livestream or do a video on the situation.

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Given his last video I'm not expecting anything ground-breaking, but maybe he'll do something decent this time.
Turkey Tom also made that video that planned to expose Boogie where he barely had anything to say and hardly touched on the main criticisms of him. He's as much a clout chaser as the rest of these commentary channels.
 
I've been seeing some misinformation being spread around about the situation (including in this thread), which is understandable given how a lot of the information was shrouded by mystery for a long time. Given that Mister Metokur is likely doing a video on this drama (and we all know he pulls heavily from here), I want to make a post summarising all of what we know for definite from videos, tweets, etc. I will not be providing many links as most of them have already been posted in this thread (which is not long by any means), and I don't want to bloat an already long post. Any new info that I have will be substantiated. This post will contain a summary and clarification of Nick's video (by far the best video done on this topic). I also won't be touching the first part of the drama between Chey and Slazo as most of the information during that part of the situation is 100% concrete and well-documented in this thread. It's after Michael's response that everything gets confusing. This post is mainly for noobs and those concerned about Pyro's involvement, the timeline of when they knew of the accusations, etc. Feel free to ignore or add on anything I missed.

Basically, this drama truly began to ramp up after Michael (Slazo) responded in his "my side" video where he debunked the lion's share of Chey's claims of sexual assault and emotional abuse (though he did admit to being controlling, unsupportive and emotionally unavailable). Turkey Tom's video provides a good recap of this part of the drama. Michael's response was received very positively by most of the community, which led to an eagle eye being placed on many of Michael's former friends who came out and supported Chey. These YouTubers include BluesDank, KingAni, Weesterner, Dolan Dark, Kwite and the most prominent, ImAllex. All of these YouTubers (except Kwite really) continued to double down on their stance that Michael is a sexual predator, which drew even more suspicion on them.

Nicholas DeOrio, a co-host on Tommy C's SFTP, jumped into a call with Alex and BowBlax for two and a half hours (which he did not record for obvious legal reasons). Alex knew Nick planned to make a video on him and was apparently fine with it, but later worriedly spammed Nick's discord and insinuated that he would involve lawyers. In this call Alex complained about the high number of sexual predation cases in the commentary community, with Michael's case apparently being the 25th of such. Alex told Nick a story of contacting an accused rapist concerning allegations against him and letting him walk away (a privilege he did not afford to Michael). Nick has only heard of 3 of these 25 allegations; Zaptie (former commentator), James Charles and now Michael. Nick believes that Alex only seems to come forward with these issues when it affects him personally and is not the principled anti-rape crusader he makes himself out to be. Alex also told small lies to Nick e.g Michael only lived with him for three days, when in actual fact he lived with him for a week. Alex also allegedly told Nick that he was against the two year age gap between Chey and Michael, despite telling Tommy C in Twitter DMs that he didn't mean to bring their respective ages into the conversation (when discussing a Tweet Alex made about Michael "controlling a fourteen year old girl").

Alex also revealed that a group chat between nearly a dozen commentators existed for several months. According to Alex, the chat consisted of Chey, himself, Dolan Dark, Hyojin (Pyro's ex), Unicorn Powers, Pyrocynical, Blues Dank, King Ani, Kwite and Weesterner. However, suspicions have arisen about the names Alex told Nick. Unicorn Powers claimed she had nothing to do with the chat and that Alex threw her under the bus to take the heat off himself (it's very possible he included Pyro for this very reason, as Pyro did not involve himself in this drama whatsoever). The chat was involved in writing Chey's Twitlonger. Alex himself wrote a draft that was rejected, and he allegedly left the chat for two weeks. The final draft was written by Hyojin, which he was critical of as the screenshots attached included rape jokes between Chey and Michael. Despite his gripes with Hyojin's draft Alex supported Chey's Twitlonger publicly. Alex described Hyojin as "malicious" and was more invested in seeing Michael's channel destroyed than Chey was. This is substantiated by tweets a girl posted (which I linked a few pages back) about an individual taking pleasure in seeing Michael's pain. Alex also told both Nick and Tom that Hyojin cheated on Pyro with Dolan Dark, which appears to be a lie as Pyro is still on good terms with Dolan. Several people spoke to Turkey Tom about Hyojin; three people called her a "psycho" and one girl whom allegedly lived with her for a few months claimed Hyojin abused her dog (Hyojin denied this on Twitter). Alex also leaked this Discord message to someone, who then leaked it to Turkey Tom; https://web.archive.org/save/https://twitter.com/TurkeyTom/status/1150979365427187712. When asked why this group went so hard after Michael (as Alex claimed that they look past rape accusations), Alex mentioned that Michael's reddit channel (Emkay) was pulling in 34k dollars monthly. When Nick said that this detail seemed to be a red flag, Alex reiterated his belief in Chey's accusations. Nick says in his video that Alex wants people to trust his word; the group chat conspirators are unreliable narrators as they have questionable motives, but that Michael is actually a rapist (yet, he couldn't say that he was 100% sure that Michael actually was one).

According to Dolan Dark, members of this chat knew about the allegations for a year but ignored them (substantiated by ColossalisCrazy on the Baited Podcast episode). Nick questions the group's genuine belief in Chey's claims; if they believed them, why would they allow Michael to mingle among fans clearly when he may be a sexual predator? Apparently a group of people (not specified who) went up to Michael at Pax 2018 and told him "stop raping people", which they thought would put the issue to bed. Alex claimed that he wrote a very long Twitlonger which would clear up the situation but decided not to post it, which confused Nick as most people in the community want a response from him. Alex claimed that a second round of sexual assault allegations was ready to come out about Michael, but that Hyojin and Chey were saving them for Michael's response. The group chat also chose to go on holiday around the time of Michael's response, which means that their planned rebuttal to Michael's video would come out about a week from now.

Nick brought these new round of allegations to Michael in a 10-15 minute interview included in his video. They are as follows;

1: According to Dolan Dark, several girls approached Chey concerning their interactions with Michael. Apparently nudes were exchanged between him and these girls, despite Slazo claiming that he would never abuse his power over his fans (this is substantiated by a stream made by Tommy C weeks prior. According to a source of his, Chey's response would include claims of Michael receiving nudes from fans). Michael denied sending nudes but admitted to receiving them. Michael claimed that he never had these interactions with stan accounts due to the obvious power dynamic between them; instead he only had these conversations with girls after speaking with them for "a long time" and developing a relationship. This occurred about 2-3 times. In some cases he requested nudes and in others they volunteered to send them. So far none of these girls whom sent nudes to Michael have come forward.

2: According to Alex, Michael became sexually rough with a drunk female friend of his at a club while he was completely sober. Alex removed her from the situation and sent her home in an Uber. Michael was then bullied for this for the next three days. Michael denied this. He claimed that he was also drunk and that the interaction between him and this girl was completely consensual, and that she gave him hickies, of which the others in the group took pics of (proof here: https://twitter.com/sarah_anne____/status/1151002794586976256). People in the group with him at the club posed for pictures with them while they were making out (see Bowblax and Nick's video for the pics). Michael alleges that the group made fun of him for drunkenly making out with this girl and the hickies she gave him, not for assualting her. Alex's claims were pointed out as nonsensical by Tommy C (who was interviewing Slazo along with Nick and Colossal). It's commonplace for people to playfully bully their friends for hooking up with someone while drunk, not sexually assaulting them.

3: A second allegation also comes from Alex. A former girlfriend of Michael's approached Alex about her relationship with him. According to her, she relapsed into self-harm and requested comfort from Michael. Michael agreed to come over and keep her company while he finished editing a video. During the time he took to arrive at her place she consumed 3/4ths of a bottle of vodka. When she requested the final quarter of the vodka Michael chugged it himself and the two of them, now drunk, had sex at some point during the night. Michael claimed that they had a friends with benefits relationship from mid to late 2018 to early 2019. Michael claimed that she was drinking heavily and reached for a bottle of soju (strong Korean vodka). Michael drank it so she couldn't. Michael denied having sex with her that night and claimed that they had sex in the morning. Michael admitted that, while he was drinking, he had in his words the "gross" (I agree) thought that his drunkenness could turn into sex, but denied that sex was his main intention for going to her place. He confessed this thought to her and acknowledged that it probably made her feel uneasy. He didn't follow through with this thought.

4: A third claim from Alex. He alleged that he had seen evidence that Michael attempted to pay Chey to keep silent. They withheld this evidence in preparation for Michael's response. Michael denied this but admitted to offering her money in the past to assuage his guilt over being a terrible boyfriend. Here he addressed some of Chey's accusations that he didn't touch on in his original response. He denied yelling at her constantly as he physically couldn't do so without their secret relationship being discovered by his parents, who wouldn't have approved of their relationship for religious reasons. I also know that Michael comes from a large family (probably 3-4 siblings at least) from a QnA video he did and that he shared a room up until he moved out of his parent's house. This would have made it impossible for him to yell at Chey. He admitted to being a terrible boyfriend to Chey; he would not visit her while she was on her period and asked her to switch to a different anti-depressant medication to amplify her sex drive (can be seen in the screenshots in the OP). He also insinuated at times that it was a bad thing for her to be on anti-depressants because it decreased her libido. Michael claimed that he and Chey only had sex approximately three times over the course of their relationship. Michael also addressed messages between him and Chey where Michael engaged in a sex act that Chey didn't want to do. Michael said that he and Chey were already engaging in "stuff", but that she didn't want to do a particular act with him. Michael encouraged her to perform this act which she agreed to (though probably reluctantly).

Nick pointed out that, even if these accusations are true, they are nowhere near sexual assault/rape and are light years away from what Chey accused him of. Nick also highlighted how immaturely those running the gay op on Michael treated Chey's Twitlonger; if he did try to bribe Chey, why did they choose to omit that information and replace it with Slazo's rape jokes? Nick said in his video that they treated these allegations like petty YT drama. Nick also pointed out how, even if Michael completely vindicates himself, there will still be people both online and in his real life that will believes that he is a sexual predator.

Nick also released DMs from Dolan Dark. Dolan wrote that he believed Chey as he knew her personally. He admitted that Chey didn't contact the police as similar cases with a lack of evidence got thrown out. He also wrote that revenge was likely an aspect of Chey's motivations to write the Twitlonger. Finally, he said that Chey was not the most "mentally stable" person. It seems that this group acted as Internet gay op vigilantes. It also appears that Alex tried to play both sides by leaking info to Nick, Tom and others, lying about the involvement of Unicorn Powers (and possibly Pyro), etc. It's very important to note that a lot of the above information comes from Alex, who is not the most honest person. Several of his statements have been disputed by the people whom he claimed were involved. For example, Hyojin said on Twitter that she was only "moral support" for Chey and had nothing to do with writing her Twitlonger.

I hope this post clears up the controversy surrounding Pyro's involvement in this drama, timeline of events, the true nature of the accusations, etc. Yes, I have too much time on my hands.
 
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Interesting thing happened earlier this year. Pyro's nudes got leaked on 4chan on 20th January. They both broke up late 2018/ early 2019. I wonder if she was on one of her psychotic episodes and leaked them.
 

This is an excellent summation! I just want to interject a few things that might be of relevance and offer some context.

The $34k/mo figure on Michael’s reddit channel EmKay is not substantiated. Alex claims that he was told this, but (I feel) it is unlikely that Michael decided to split the channel between several other creators when it is easier content to make than his actual main channel content.

This group supposedly believed Michael to be a sexual predator as early as a year ago, but they also included him in an informal meet and greet at PAX AU 2018 at the end of October. This group included both Hyojin and Pyro, who were both staying in a house with Dolan Dark and Kwite. Those 4 have been named as being involved in the group chat that knew of the allegations but still included him anyway.

I suspect that the ‘holiday’ that is eluded to is VicCon, which took place this past weekend. Pyro was not present, while Hyojin, Kwite, Weest, Bluesdank, and King Ani were.

For context, Michael’s interjection that his self-harming FWB was drinking soju instead of vodka is relevant. Soju is typically sold in smaller bottles of 375 ml rather than the typical liter of vodka, which seems to be what he is describing although he said it was a 600 ml bottle. It also contains half as much alcohol by volume than your average vodka does. I lived in Korea and purchased these bottles regularly there and in America. Though the point still stands that if you drink 3/4 of one of these bottles, you can still get pretty fucked up. If they did have sex the following morning, both of them would have sobered up, though the circumstance could still be questionable.

Michael does come from a large family as shown from this photo he posted on his instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/BwRD767HKwG/ that shows he’s on the older end of a family of 9 children. And from what he’s said, they are a religious family. It makes sense that he would hide this relationship, even at the age of 16 and moved out as early as he could (without checking, was towards the end of last year). And no, Alex, a 14 year old dating a 16 year old is not an inappropriate age gap by nearly everyone’s standards.
 
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