Opinion Shy Conservatives Keep the Left in Its Bubble - Otherwise reasonable people believe crazy things because nobody dares challenge them.

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A couple of days after the election, a closeted Republican friend sent me a compendium of messages and social-media posts he had gathered from some of his left-of-center colleagues. They were utterly wild.

One insisted that while all of us needed space to “grieve,” we had only a few months to prepare for “solidly authoritarian rule.” Another was looking for open university positions overseas in her specialty, since she couldn’t come to terms with living in a country “that hates so many of us,” where “half of us are denied the highest leadership position purely because of our gender.

A Massachusetts resident asserted that “my rights as a woman are about to be compromised.” A man sarcastically congratulated his fellow Americans for voting for four more years of “fascist ideology,” “blatant misogyny and racism,” “toxic masculinity” and “spiritual bankruptcy.” A woman wrote late on election eve that while she didn’t exactly want to die, “it’s just that I don’t care if I don’t wake up” on Nov. 6.

Nonleftists wonder if fears such as these are sincerely held or merely performative. After all, while one could have plenty of reasonable doubts about a second Trump administration, the fear that we are in for a resurgence of fascist authoritarianism, that America voted against Kamala Harris because it couldn’t countenance a female president rather than due to her singular weaknesses as a candidate, and that Massachusetts is going to restrict abortion aren’t among them.

Yet as unrealistic as these fears are, they seem to reflect the sincere beliefs of at least some otherwise reasonable people. How can that be?

Right-leaning commentators regularly zero in on one key reason: the echo chamber of the media and the Democratic Party. The Harris campaign parlayed Donald Trump’s quips about being “a dictator on day one”—i.e., issuing lots of executive orders, as other new presidents have also done—into alarms about the return of fascism. Mainstream journalists insisted that Mr. Trump must have intended to echo a pro-Nazi gathering in 1939 when he chose Madison Square Garden, site of the 1992 Democratic National Convention, for a rally. Oprah Winfrey suggested that if Americans didn’t elect Kamala Harris president, they may lose the right to vote.

But there is another reason, one that conservatives are far less likely to mention, since it implicates them. One thing the election results proved beyond a doubt is that Americans with conservative views are everywhere—in every city, every state and every demographic group, far more than we knew. But the shock of the election results demonstrated how many Americans are willing to vote their values at the ballot box even as they remain unwilling to explain that vote even to a pollster, much less to a friend. Particularly inside elite government, business and academic enclaves, where the darkest fears about Mr. Trump have been incubated, Americans with right-of-center views tend to keep those views to themselves.

It’s easy enough to understand why. In recent decades, and particularly since 2020, the numerous examples of careers ended by touching one of our nation’s constantly moving political tripwires have led many to believe they need to choose between sincerity and friendships, between advancing their values and supporting their family, between an opinion and a job.

The electric fence of cancel culture creates a tendency toward self-censorship among the (real or perceived) minority, which leads those who belong to the dominant culture to assume that no reasonable person holds views different from their own. After all (so they think), they don’t know anyone who does.

All this came to mind when I read those hysterical social-media messages. I think of how much these genuinely frightened friends and colleagues could benefit from knowing that there are people they like, people they trust, who have a different take on things, who might be able to reassure their friends and neighbors that their fears are unrealistic and exaggerated—that the country will still exist in four years and it will still be the United States of America.

For those who are shy about dissenting, I understand the risk you would assume by speaking, even to close friends from whom you’ve hidden your true beliefs. But I believe you should do it anyway. I think that cancel culture is receding and that you’ll find the water warmer than you expect, but I can’t guarantee that. What I know for sure is that for as long as America remains a self-censoring society, it will also remain an extreme, polarized and deeply unhealthy one. All of us have a part to play in repairing it.
 
Leftists keep themselves in a bubble, because they're antagonistic to the idea of debate. They can't stand to be questioned, it is an effrontery. "How dare you!" They act like total lunatics and shout down their opposition until they give up. You can't have a rational conversation with these people, they proved that a long time ago. The best strategy, the only strategy, is to mock them and provide them plenty of rope with which to hang themselves because that's what always happens, thanks to their hubris. So take your olive branch, journo, and shove it up your ass.
 
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Nothing says "the other side is fascistic!" as said side being afraid of speaking up their minds for fear of getting their lives ruined by the non-fascist side. It's really a mystery why conservatives have become shy.
 
The moment you tell a liberal friend or acquaintance that you have one conservative-leaning opinion, or articulate support for conservative views, the conversation immediately goes like this:

Friend: You really think that abortion limits are a good thing? Women die because of people like you not standing up for them. What about women who have [insanely unlikely situation that would almost certainly be covered by specific exemption carveouts in any law]?

Me: Well, obviously those cases need carveouts, but they're also incredibly rare.

Friend: You know the Republicans want to get rid of birth control, too? They hate women and they hate our reproductive choices, they want to control us.

Me: I know a lot of conservatives, and I don't think I've heard more than one or two say anything about birth control. Even they only have a couple specific forms they're against. There's zero political will in this country to ban birth control.

Friend: But once they get into power they'll just do it anyway! They'll suspend voting to stay in office.

Me: Who are the conservatives you know who are advocating for these kinds of things?

Friend: ...I heard on CNN/MSNBC/in the NYT/WaPo/The Atlantic/The Daily Beast...


It always goes on like that. The friend who five minutes ago didn't even know I held conservative views, now knows all about how all conservatives think and what they will do in the future. It's always diabolical, mustache-twirling stuff, too. They basically think the most edgy shitpost on A&N is the actual secret political platform of every person in the GOP.

And it's never because they know actual way-the-fuck-out-there conservatives with fringe views. At least then it'd be understandable that they thought those views were everyone's.

But I think a lot of it, too, is that a lot of liberals know they're saying lies in order to be politically correct. A lot of liberals police you about anything having to do with race because they know damn well that there are racial differences in violent behavior and intelligence. They know that if you start thinking outside the orthodoxy even a little, your common sense and reason will get you there.

It's the same with the trans issue. You can't voice a concern about a tiny corner case in these issues because the whole facade will crumble, and they know it. You must keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle at all times. One toe outside the line and the ride has to stop until you're back in the correct position.
 
What's the point of challenging and debunking the lies that liberals parrot when they refuse to admit they're in the wrong? You can explain all the falsehoods about Trump such as "neo-Nazis are fine people," "dead soldiers are suckers and losers," and "go storm the Capitol for me!" until you're blue in the face and they will say you are the one who has fallen for the propaganda.
 
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Oh hey. This is just victim blaming!

"Its your fault that we're acting like this! Why did you let us act like this?!" As they scream when they wield the hammer of MSM, government and the cathedral.

And now they're finally understanding that people just hate the shit they've done.
 
Oh hey. This is just victim blaming!

"Its your fault that we're acting like this! Why did you let us act like this?!" As they scream when they wield the hammer of MSM, government and the cathedral.

And now they're finally understanding that people just hate the shit they've done.
Nope they still don't understand that the people hate what they've done.
Only the ones who'll be judged as insufficiently leftist in an upcoming purity spiral understand it.
 
Nope they still don't understand that the people hate what they've done.
Only the ones who'll be judged as insufficiently leftist in an upcoming purity spiral understand it.
And that right there is essentially why they're a party of lolcows. And unlike Christine who to some effect have learned from their mistakes, these just understand they not only need to double down but also go even harder to own those dang dirty trolls.

Its honestly amazing how Chris was really ahead of the curb. We may see a day that the common Westerner is going to start copying tactics from the Miscreants just to make the left act even more unhinged. Its fitting considering that Trump is their man in the Pickle Suit.
 
But its not just conservatives, its common views held by the middle. The centrists despise child mutilation, outdated immigration policies, and the current state of affairs as well. You didn't just build a wall to kick out the conservatives from speaking up; it was every single person who told you that Todd competing in the Woman's Sports was taking this acceptance thing a little too far. Screaming 'right side of history' doesn't move those who aren't hardcore extremists, and alienates everyone else. These are the fruits of your harvest, enjoy them.
The entire center party voted to give Hitler absolute power in the enabling act as well as the Balfour fire declaration they were so tired of the KPD and then blowing up buildings and causing complete civil unrest every five weeks
 
Leftists operate on the Marxist principle that words and ideas shape reality, and they rest on the victories of their past. They won the Civil Rights debate and have spent 60+ years fighting racism by making it a moral sin, ignoring any justifications for it, and worshipping melanin. At the same, time they think they can erase conservative thought through applying that same tactics to anything and everything, and by flooding media with the "correct" views. And they're right to an extent- I grew up with anti-racism pushed in the cartoons I watched, the lessons in school, what I was reading online. It was particularly effective with blacks, since I didn't have many around growing up. But it never worked in illegals because my town had them in groves, and the reality of those people didn't override what I saw and experienced myself. It wasn't until I grew up more and went to places with blacks that I realized the lies I had been fed and that oh, they really do suck ass. All the indoctrination I learned as a child is in complete tatters now.

But for some people, they either grow up privileged enough to never experience truth, or they're so far down the rabbit hole they will die being an antiracist tranny-lover even as a tranny rapes them and they're shot by Jamal. There's no sense talking to them because they don't care, and doing so only opens you up to attack.
 
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The moment you tell a liberal friend or acquaintance that you have one conservative-leaning opinion, or articulate support for conservative views, the conversation immediately goes like this:

Friend: You really think that abortion limits are a good thing? Women die because of people like you not standing up for them. What about women who have [insanely unlikely situation that would almost certainly be covered by specific exemption carveouts in any law]?

Me: Well, obviously those cases need carveouts, but they're also incredibly rare.

Friend: You know the Republicans want to get rid of birth control, too? They hate women and they hate our reproductive choices, they want to control us.

Me: I know a lot of conservatives, and I don't think I've heard more than one or two say anything about birth control. Even they only have a couple specific forms they're against. There's zero political will in this country to ban birth control.

Friend: But once they get into power they'll just do it anyway! They'll suspend voting to stay in office.

Me: Who are the conservatives you know who are advocating for these kinds of things?

Friend: ...I heard on CNN/MSNBC/in the NYT/WaPo/The Atlantic/The Daily Beast...


It always goes on like that. The friend who five minutes ago didn't even know I held conservative views, now knows all about how all conservatives think and what they will do in the future. It's always diabolical, mustache-twirling stuff, too. They basically think the most edgy shitpost on A&N is the actual secret political platform of every person in the GOP.

And it's never because they know actual way-the-fuck-out-there conservatives with fringe views. At least then it'd be understandable that they thought those views were everyone's.

But I think a lot of it, too, is that a lot of liberals know they're saying lies in order to be politically correct. A lot of liberals police you about anything having to do with race because they know damn well that there are racial differences in violent behavior and intelligence. They know that if you start thinking outside the orthodoxy even a little, your common sense and reason will get you there.

It's the same with the trans issue. You can't voice a concern about a tiny corner case in these issues because the whole facade will crumble, and they know it. You must keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle at all times. One toe outside the line and the ride has to stop until you're back in the correct position.
Wokeism is a cult.
Progressives are in a cult. They worship at the cathedrals of Scientism and Feminism. They seek progress for the sake of progression. They might be secretly marxists too.
But also, the DNC has cultivated this "boy who cried wolf" / Pavlov's Dog culture to their voters. Every election is the last one ever. Every election is the most important one ever. Every election has democracy ™️ on the ballot. They've used the media to help push this message. Def. since Obama. Probably since RvW to get butts into voter booths. "We'll totally codify RvW into law this cycle. For sure".

The Pavlov's Dog part comes in that they have their voters / supporters act like lunatics who think its the end of the world every day and the sky is falling. You can't debate your opponents because they're evil. Their positions are evil and our positions are sane and factual. If someone disagrees with you, its because they're evil. There's a cult like aspect to "Its not my job to educate you". Because they're not allow to have thoughts. They parrot whatever the politicians / media / think tank / college professor says.

But they really went overboard during Trump's first run. And they've been steadily losing people since 2017. And now with his second term win, people can finally speak up about voting for him.

Others have said it before and in this thread, but the left cannot ever self-reflect. Everything is everyone else's fault. Its a narcissistic world view.
 
I have reached the end of argument for the majority of my political positions so I don't bother speaking about them anymore, and it's also why I use this site significantly less now. Emotional bullshit and bias are all I have left to deal with in other people and I just don't fucking care as I'm pretty sure I wasn't put on this planet to change the fucking world anyway. Talking to brick walls is more engaging and productive.
But the shock of the election results demonstrated how many Americans are willing to vote their values at the ballot box even as they remain unwilling to explain that vote even to a pollster, much less to a friend.
Fuck this retard for wanting people to report themselves to the fucking Stasi. No fucking shit people weren't exactly champing at the bit to tell people to curb immigration in the past decade, what with ruining people's lives over politics becoming a new fun game for the left writ-large.
For those who are shy about dissenting,
My hatred for these people is immeasurable.
 
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