UN Second Democratic Debates - Hopefully it will be better then last night?

Starts at 5pm-7:30pm PST / 7pm CST-9:30pm CST / 8pm-10:30pm EST
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/second-democratic-debates-night-2-big-night.59065/page-38 for 2nd night discussion
Welcome to day 2 of the second Democratic primary debates, tonight will feature:

Joe "No Blacks on the Bus" Biden former Vice President


Andrew Yang, he's asian


Cory Booker senator from New Jersey and mutated Obama clone


Julian Castro former housing and urban development secretary


Bill de Blasio mayor of the shithole known as New York City


Michael Bennet senator from Colorado


Tulsi Gabbard Hawaii representative and surf mommy


Kirsten Gillibrand senator from New York


Kamala Harris senator from California


Jay Inslee governor of Washington


Kiwi polling:

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Night one

Night Two

How the polls are looking since last time(Biden comeback):

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Emerson Polling

July National Poll: Biden Extends Support While Bernie Bounces Back

emersonpolling.reportablenews.com

QU Poll Release Detail

Biden Bounces Back As Harris Slumps Among U.S. Dems, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; 54 Percent Of All U.S. Voters Say Never Trump

poll.qu.edu

Results from last night:

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Like last time the poll will be posted after the debates


If you want to watch the debate on your phone then you'll have to download CNN's dumb app, then enter http://smartlink.cnn.com/go into your browser and open in through the CNN app.
For PC users they just need to go here

 

[Stoneheart]

Okay, i know have a pretty good idea what Tulsi was talking about when she linked Trump and al quaida.
She was talking about idlib in syria, where the west is protecting the rule of Al Quaida against the forces of good, i mean Assad.
She is totaly right about that. but you dont have to go that far. not turning Riad into a fallout theme park with Thermonuclear Annihilation is support for Al quaida.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Harris isn't a serious candidate, no matter what she thinks or what the media says. She's as dislikable as Hillary Clinton, but has far less power and money. But don't take my word for it, after her record as a prosecutor was legitimately criticized by Gabbard, here are Harris's own public comments on the matter post-debate:



Wow. No rebuttal even post-debate after she had time to step back and think up a positive spin, just pure arrogance.

Even Chris Cillizza, one of CNN's resident DNC dickriders, couldn't reconcile how a candidate could be that tone-deaf.

It's ok though, they were kind enough to say this:

This incident isn't going to do any real damage to Harris. She's right that she is a top-tier candidate and Gabbard, well, isn't -- at least not yet. But Harris' inability to keep her cool is something to keep an eye on. This isn't the only time she's going to be challenged on her record in the coming months.

So they agree, it doesn't matter the points were valid. Harris isn't damaged. The narrative has been set.

 

[Denmark Mafia]

Yang is autistic and Gabbard basically waifu fanfic. Sometimes this place is predictable.

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Mommy <3

 

[Wargarbl]

It's ok though, they were kind enough to say this:



So they agree, it doesn't matter the points were valid. Harris isn't damaged. The narrative has been set.

Cillizza wouldn't be a good stooge if he didn't attempt some apologetics for Harris being an embarrassment. It's what he's paid to do.

 

[Superman93]

 

[Superman93]

You know this timeline is fucked when you see me agreeing with Talcom X

 

[mindlessobserver]

I love how its Gabbard taking the Bane route and crashing the DNCs carefully scripted primary. They can't criticize her because she is a wahmen and has progressive immunity. So they need to criticize her supporters who are all learly Trump trolls or Russian Bots

 

[spiritofamermaid]

The only rule that matters anyways is that the DNC can just choose whoever they want, and they generally do that based on who's going to "pay off" in the long run, not whoever the polls actually favour. The polls could be 100% for Candidate A and 5% for Candidate B, but when they all meet behind closed doors to decide who to go with (IE: Who's paid / stands to pay them the most) then the polls mean neither jack nor shit. It's not always monetarily either, it could be a "pay-off" in terms of their ability to pass legislation or push agendas forward.

Hillary may be a nasty piece of work but she can wrangle up some unbelievable payouts for people on her team, and she has a track record of at least pushing bills through, however flimsy it might be. Bernie can't even be arsed to pay his own staff the "livable wage" that he touts and despite being in politics for longer than almost anyone here has been alive: Try and list his political accomplishments. Have you noticed that even he never tries to do that?

That's probably one of the bigger reasons he got so screwed in 2016. He didn't have the money or the willingness / ability to generate the kind of pay-days that Hillary did, so he got hurled to the curb. You can't miser the Miser Kings and expect to be chosen as the forerunner.

If that's the case, then maybe the reason O'Rourke is still in is that huge war chest he accumulated during the midterms and refused to share with others iirc. Maybe they think he will share if they pretend to give him a chance at the nomination?

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

If you guys aren't watching CNN live, Biden is doing that creepy up close talking with hand on shoulder thing with Al Sharpton right now.

Sharpton me toos Biden, becomes Dem nominee. Trump-Sharpton debates shatter ratings records, with Don King as moderator.

World Peace achieved.

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

Gabbard is going to get bounced because she was the only one who took it to where Kamala Harris is most vulnerable, and in a raw and intense way, too.

Nobody else has the guts to call her a dirty cop. Except President Trump, of course.

 

[Adamska]

Well the cuts are laying in already, it looks like. The only candidates who currently qualify for the September debates are:

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Joe Biden
Cory Booker
Pete Bootygig
Kamala Harris
Robert O'Rourke (How?)
Bernie Sanders
Elizabeth Warren
It's possible that Yang, Castro, and Klobachwhatever could qualify by then too, but currently they don't.

Everyone else is going to need 130,000 unique donors and register at least 2% support in four polls. The deadline for these requirements is August 28th, and also again how the fuck is Robert still in the race he's at 0%.

Wow, they're already doing the fix after two of the front runners got crabpot'ted. And it's conveniently right after Gabbard and other randos nuked Biden AND Harris, but before they could get to Warren.

Pretty sure I already know where the fix is, at least on the media's end. Pissed too, because she's basically a Rachel Dolezal that got away with that shit and still gets away with it too.

Also while I find Yang to be dumb now that I've gotten measure of him, he does deserve to be on there more than Robert Francis, but I guess they still want to push the old and tired young Irishman who will bring back Camelot angle instead. Ignore how literally no one wants him now that he was unable to beat the Zodiac Killer.

I don't give a fuck anymore; I'm voting Gabbard even if she quits in the primary, and then I'll just plain go GOP/3rd Party for everything else because fuck my former party for going into Idpol Communist Bullshit and shoving these ass clowns down my throat. Fuck the DNC and I hope this election renders them bankrupt.

 

[JosephStalin]

She'll win 2024.

You have something there. 2024 will be a "regulating" election, after eight years of Trump. People will want a President to move things from the right more to the middle. In 2024 Biden and Sanders will be too old. If Gabbard can keep from going off the deep end, she can campaign as that "regulator".

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

I love how its Gabbard taking the Bane route and crashing the DNCs carefully scripted primary. They can't criticize her because she is a wahmen and has progressive immunity. So they need to criticize her supporters who are all learly Trump trolls or Russian Bots

The angle I see CNN angling towards is attacking her for alleged Assad support

 

[hash-slinging slasher]

Deciding to skip out on watching the debates was stupid of me. I missed the milf going all WWE Smackdown on Harris! With that kind of past, you have to wonder how Harris expected to go against Trump without him using any of this against her. I'd say that she should've been prepared but how do you defend against someone pointing out that you tried to have an innocent man executed? Pull an Ilhexandra Omar-Cortez and call everyone a racist?

I'm liking Tulsi more and more but I stick by what I said before - I hope the most progressive of the bunch gets the nomination because if anyone even slightly sane (if any of them are) goes up against Trump and loses, the Dems will just double down on insanity and blame their pick for not being insane enough. I'd be ok with Tulsi being president in 2024 though so long as she leaves abortion laws alone and doesn't hike up the minimum wage so much, jobs leave.

Also, in some of the clips I watched, I saw some of the candidates responding to questions with "that's a republican talking point". Did anyone point out that you probably can't use that response against Trump in the presidential debates? You're going to have to answer the damn question unless you're banking on Trump not bringing it up.

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

The angle I see CNN angling towards is attacking her for alleged Assad support

At the same time Twitter had trending hashtags around the sentiment of "kamala got buried" you also had "Assad" trending. Ooh, I'm sure that was organic!

 

[Secret Asshole]

Pretty sure I already know where the fix is, at least on the media's end. Pissed too, because she's basically a Rachel Dolezal that got away with that shit and still gets away with it too.

Warren's not the fix. She'll get nuclear wintered by Trump by calling out her fake heritage. Harris is the fix. She's the DNC insider, fits the metrics they want and can get away with the identity politics people.

The problem is that now she just got visibly raped to death in front of the entire country. I've never seen an absolute destruction like that in a political primary. The only words that cunt had was 'Well, she's a nobody'.

Hey, you federal glow in the dark cunt, she's the most searched for candidate. You're a nobody and Trump is going to push you to the concrete and make you bite the curb as he bashes your head in.

Deciding to skip out on watching the debates was stupid of me. I missed the milf going all WWE Smackdown on Harris! With that kind of past, you have to wonder how Harris expected to go against Trump without him using any of this against her. I'd say that she should've been prepared but how do you defend against someone pointing out that you tried to have an innocent man executed? Pull an Ilhexandra Omar-Cortez and call everyone a racist?

I'm liking Tulsi more and more but I stick by what I said before - I hope the most progressive of the bunch gets the nomination because if anyone even slightly sane (if any of them are) goes up against Trump and loses, the Dems will just double down on insanity and blame their pick for not being insane enough. I'd be ok with Tulsi being president in 2024 though so long as she leaves abortion laws alone and doesn't hike up the minimum wage so much, jobs leave.

Also, in some of the clips I watched, I saw some of the candidates responding to questions with "that's a republican talking point". Did anyone point out that you probably can't use that response against Trump in the presidential debates? You're going to have to answer the damn question unless you're banking on Trump not bringing it up.

Tulsi will not be making it. The DNC already has their chosen. Biden will be out eventually. Sanders doesn't have the support. If I'd say who they're looking at, they're going for a Harris/Biden ticket. Get the front-runner appeal as VP with Obama nostalgia and try to make the white vote a little more comfortable while fully embracing the identity politics crowd with Kamela Harris.

However, Harris was basically destroyed and crushed completely. Gabbard went 'off script', because these debates are scripted. There's no independence here. You have kingmakers doing this shit. So now Tulsi Gabbard is an agent of the alt right, a Russian Puppet, a Secret Republican. All because she toasted their chosen one. Problem is, everyone knows she's toast. She got got on National Television. That's NEVER going away.

Tulsi was the most searched for candidate after the primaries. The only way Gabbard wins is to wreck the DNC. Destroy their chosen candidates so completely and utterly they're unwinnable. She just gave Trump her head on a platter. Biden's head is mush so he'd be destroyed by Trump anyway. The smart people (there are no smart people) in the DNC would look at Harris and go 'she's finished'. The smartest thing they could do is push Tulsi, who has bipartisan support. She could win back the states Hilary lost because: 1) She's a Veteran 2) She's good looking 3) She's charismatic 4) She seems to have her principles 5) She abides the rule of law. 6) She's anti-war. Trump would have a difficult time with her. The others: Please.

A progressive candidate is death in the general. Nobody supports their policies and the democratic base is not enough to win the country.

Also, donate to Tulsi. 130k unique donors. The problem is the polls are going to be rigged. The only good thing is that it doesn't mean they're out of the race. They're just out of the debates. If I were Tulsi and I didn't make the debates, I'd hold a speech or a conference. Fuck the DNC. They want to rig the game and fuck you, you fuck back. Nobody is interested in any of those losers.

 

[Drunk and Pour]

Elizabeth Warren used to be a Republican until 1997.

That's funny because Trump used to be a Democrat like right up until he announced he was going to run for the Republican nomination.

Where's all this support for Biden coming from? Maybe its just the people I associate with but I don't see any support for the guy. Most everyone I know is either in favor of Yang, Gabbard, or Sanders. I'm fairly sure he doesn't have a shot against Trump especially with all the creepy uncle Joe stuff going around.

It's funny because it seems like the media doesn't even support the guy and he's still the front runner. I guess it's simply because he has the most recognition.

I don't give a fuck anymore; I'm voting Gabbard even if she quits in the primary, and then I'll just plain go GOP/3rd Party for everything else because fuck my former party for going into Idpol Communist Bullshit and shoving these ass clowns down my throat. Fuck the DNC and I hope this election renders them bankrupt.

I'm thinking about switching parties for the primaries, just so I can vote for her.

The angle I see CNN angling towards is attacking her for alleged Assad support

Which is hilariously stupid. Even more stupid than the Trump - Putin connection. Especially after Obama's Iran deal and ending the ban of Cuba.

 

[Cloacan]

She was the only one I would have voted for. I swear the left is full of republicans who have gone deep under cover to make sure no democrat is ever elected again. They cant possibly believe Warren or Harris will win against trump. Harris especially after Gabbard murdered her live for the whole country to see.

She never had a chance. No candidate can attempt to cockblock Israel and hope to survive. Only Jewish puppets allowed, as always is the case with American governance.

I think Tulsi Gabbard is the only desirable candidate they have, and really the only chance they have at trading blows with Trump. Her stances are retared, mostly, like all Dem candidates, but she's the best they've got by a huge margin.

Warren's not the fix. She'll get nuclear wintered by Trump by calling out her fake heritage. Harris is the fix. She's the DNC insider, fits the metrics they want and can get away with the identity politics people.

The problem is that now she just got visibly raped to death in front of the entire country. I've never seen an absolute destruction like that in a political primary. The only words that cunt had was 'Well, she's a nobody'.

Hey, you federal glow in the dark cunt, she's the most searched for candidate. You're a nobody and Trump is going to push you to the concrete and make you bite the curb as he bashes your head in.



Tulsi will not be making it. The DNC already has their chosen. Biden will be out eventually. Sanders doesn't have the support. If I'd say who they're looking at, they're going for a Harris/Biden ticket. Get the front-runner appeal as VP with Obama nostalgia and try to make the white vote a little more comfortable while fully embracing the identity politics crowd with Kamela Harris.

However, Harris was basically destroyed and crushed completely. Gabbard went 'off script', because these debates are scripted. There's no independence here. You have kingmakers doing this shit. So now Tulsi Gabbard is an agent of the alt right, a Russian Puppet, a Secret Republican. All because she toasted their chosen one. Problem is, everyone knows she's toast. She got got on National Television. That's NEVER going away.

Tulsi was the most searched for candidate after the primaries. The only way Gabbard wins is to wreck the DNC. Destroy their chosen candidates so completely and utterly they're unwinnable. She just gave Trump her head on a platter. Biden's head is mush so he'd be destroyed by Trump anyway. The smart people (there are no smart people) in the DNC would look at Harris and go 'she's finished'. The smartest thing they could do is push Tulsi, who has bipartisan support. She could win back the states Hilary lost because: 1) She's a Veteran 2) She's good looking 3) She's charismatic 4) She seems to have her principles 5) She abides the rule of law. 6) She's anti-war. Trump would have a difficult time with her. The others: Please.

A progressive candidate is death in the general. Nobody supports their policies and the democratic base is not enough to win the country.

Also, donate to Tulsi. 130k unique donors. The problem is the polls are going to be rigged. The only good thing is that it doesn't mean they're out of the race. They're just out of the debates. If I were Tulsi and I didn't make the debates, I'd hold a speech or a conference. Fuck the DNC. They want to rig the game and fuck you, you fuck back. Nobody is interested in any of those losers.

Kamela Harris is not cut out for politics. Her body language and manner of speaking is hideous. Her weakness and insecurity shines through in everything she says and does. She's so smug and above all others, but without the ability to turn it off sometimes like Hillary Clinton. She is an impotent politician who is nothing more than a diversity hire. Kamela Harris is a hack.

 

[Drunk and Pour]

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She never had a chance. No candidate can attempt to cockblock Israel and hope to survive. Only Jewish puppets allowed, as always is the case with American governance.

Where is he getting this from? The far-left Democrats are the anti-Semites. Sounds like gaslighting to me.

 

[Adamska]

Where is he getting this from? The far-left Democrats are the anti-Semites. Sounds like gaslighting to me.

Standard gibmedat entitlement/insecurities directed at Jews specifically rather than whitey, we have a few of these bitter weirdos online here who do this and pretend they aren't on the same retarded level as flat-earthers don't mind them.

Warren's not the fix. She'll get nuclear wintered by Trump by calling out her fake heritage. Harris is the fix. She's the DNC insider, fits the metrics they want and can get away with the identity politics people.

Tell that to how often they let her get away with time, let Harris get owned by Gabbard and self-destruct on Biden, and the fact so far she's the only one that has not been crab-potted yet by any of the butt sniffers. I don't see a Harris fix; I at best saw her as a secondary fix once Sleepy Joe proved too close to death's door and not liked by the media enough.