This is a troll post, right? Right?
Holy fucking shit, imagine unironically saying "I know what it's like to be suicidal, I how terminally ill people feel, because my boss was mean to me."
It has to be. There's no way.
lmao I think so as well because holy fucking shit the tone deafness in that post was astounding to say the least.
MY BOSS WAS MEAN TO ME > Terminal disease
fucking whet.
I'm sorry, are you *making fun* of a series of events that caused me terrible pain?
Because I'm going to go out on a (nice, sturdy) limb and say that none of you are suffering from terminal disease, either, nor would any of you meet any of the edge case situations I described before that I think may actually justify suicide. You guys don't have dementia or Lou Gehrigs, you're not dying of Parkinsons. You weren't born a flipper baby or suffered a brain injury at birth to leave you paralyzed. An autocratic dictator isn't threatening to send your whole family to die in a labor camp if you don't join the 41%. You're not currently in federal custody for heinous sex crimes committed over decades and decades. You're not dying of thirst in Gaza. You're not en route to fucking Auschwitz. Whatever motivates you to consider ending your lives is no more, or less, valid than what caused me to consider ending mine. I know people who dealt with suicidal ideation for ages because of reasons I think are manifestly trite: e.g. failed relationship (& she broke up with him like two fucking years ago), came out as trans, parents fought when you were a kid, etc. etc. I'm sure if you people were forthright about why *you all* think you're ready to die I could mock you too, not that I'm going to, because you guys are too enamored with the Final Solution to the life problem as is. SO hbu u don't grief me about my reasons, and I'll continue not to grief you for yours?
Powerleveling about being fat/diddled as a kid/suicidal because people at your workplace were mean to you to own le chuds again, are we?
I don't think I need to dignify this with a reply.
Proselytizing to suicidal people is useless; to us nonreligious people, it's absolutely meaningless. God is just a reference to an acquaintance of yours and has no bearing on our life and signifies nothing. To proselytize to (formerly or currently) religious people is probably like a slap in the face as you tell them to turn to the God who is failing them.
No. God is real, absolute, and within the fabric of reality. He's in the keyboard I'm typing on, the air you breathe, the connections that allow us to talk. God isn't failing you; the world is a profane and cruel place, mostly because people have free will and people do evil things.
Forums where suicidal people can openly and honestly discuss their suicidal thoughts is absolutely necessary to those people who find solace in knowing they're not alone.
It's like a fucking anachan forum and you know it. You guys aren't supporting each other or aiding recovery, you're yes-&ing other people's suicidal ideation and fueling the fire for yourselves, you stupid cunts.
It may be unhealthy for some people to dwell in suicidal ideation, but that's no fucking excuse to torture those people whose only relief comes from sharing their pain with others who can understand it.
I understand it. I'm not going to
validate suicidal ideation, or agree with you that suicide is great and life is terrible, but you can't tell me I don't understand it.
No one who has legitimately been at their personal rock-bottom would try to deprive other people of what brings them some comfort.
I have and I am, because I know it gets better.
( I don't use SS; when I'm at my lowest, I turn to poetry like Plath and Sexton, because I can then say to myself "someone understands" and sometimes there is just no feeling as therapeutic as not feeling alone when you're in despair. Anyone who has an ounce of empathy can look at their personal experiences like these and see that this is what appeals to SS users.)
thank goodness for that. My honest to gosh beef with SS is not that it's sympathetic (I got no problem with sympathetic), but that it validates SI as a solution to one's problems, and I know that's a dead end (pun not intended.) If there is any relief to be had from suicide, you wouldn't be around to enjoy it, because you're facking dead m8.
While being institutionalized may be ideal for some, it would be disastrous for many others. That's great that it works for some but fuck off with acting like it helps everyone when many of us here can probably attest to having been in therapy for many, many years- if not decades.
I've had both - disastrous hospitalizations, and then the one that finally worked. IMO it's highly dependent on where you are sent (and in the USA you don't have that much choice over where you're sent; you kinda get admitted to a normie hospital and then they transfer you to whichever facility is close and has an open bed.)
What brings me the most comfort, ironically, is having an exit plan. Knowing that there is a way out of pain in case it becomes overwhelming makes suffering endurable.
I hope SS lives on and brings peace to those who need it, in whatever form that means.
It's not a way out, it's just a fade to black. To my mind, now, it's a capitulation. It's selfish, and the hurt would radiate through your whole family like a wound that never really heals. So I'm gonna agree to disagree... but I like you, and your life is worth living. Things can and will get better, and I want you to be around to see that happen for yourself.
It's hard to compare, as different societies might admit/report things differently.
Assuming it is true, it could be due to stronger social bonds, religioucity and a sense of place in the world.
Religious affiliation alone is confusing, because those who are already socially isolated seek out community. It's kind of like saying alcohol increases suicide when it is self medication of an existing problem.
Race might also be a factor. In America, the small proportion of Whites that have high MAOA expression is bigger and the small proportion of Blacks that have low MAOA expression is bigger.
Low MAOA has been linked to internalizing frustrations(and this depression/suicide)
High has it externalised.
Mostly widowers iirc. They don't know how to go on without their wife, and society devalues men who no longer contribute.
They are protecting themselves from responsibility
IMO the people battlimg the shittiest odds are most inspired to live. I have a friend, let's call her Thomasine, who was diagnosed with leukemia at age 23, right before her birthday. I knew what was going on when I saw a bunch of CDs from Sloan-Kettering on her kitchen table... you dont get those if your biopsy comes back healthy. The girl was in and out of hospital for years until her bone marrow transplant stabilized. I wanted her to be one of my bridesmaids, but she had to miss the wedding cause she was in hospital with graft vs. host. Throughout, she had nothing but contempt for suicide. She couldn't really contemplate why a physically healthy person in possession of an education and living in first-world accommodations would willfully invite the early death she was desperate to avoid. TG her bone marrow transplant grafted OK and she's better off now, but I recall feeling kinda guilty about my own SI knowing Thomasine was so sick.
P.S. and SHE would have been a candidate for MAID, but she never considered that once.
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