Ryukishi07 megathread / griefing thread - Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, etc.

[Gensou Hadou]

Here you go.
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Satoko's acting: EeeheeheeheeHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Satoko's face: ・_・

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

So I always thought that Satoko slapping away Keiichi's hand then proceeding to have a breakdown was just her acting after the retarded reveal, but some people claim Featherine forced it because "Satoko languishes without other's pity. If that's true, the little fucking turd deserved it.

 

[C0d3]

The new episode was meep, nothing to nipah~ about.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Lol the rollback deleted the summer wedding pics. Which is honestly okay by me, I just wanted to forget that exists because of the trashy dress designs.

 

[Trombonista]

I listened to this and now you all will too:

 

[lucio fulci]

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Honestly, I’m living for your recaps. I’ve kept up with this shit show since before the the thread was made and your commentary has been my favorite.
At first I was just going along for the ride, but the more that comes out, the stupider it gets.
It’s honestly disappointing.

But your commentary and breakdowns of the episodes have been worth it trudging through this horrendous writing.

I get more and more convinced BT had more to do with what made Higurashi great than Ryukishi, seeing as he seems to have forgotten what he wrote into the original VN and is just retconning shit now.

It’s mind numbing to say the least. What I really can’t stand is seeing the Twitter tards actually call this kind of writing a “masterpiece”.

Sotsugyou is just a slap in the face to OG fans of the series.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Honestly, I’m living for your recaps. I’ve kept up with this shit show since before the the thread was made and your commentary has been my favorite.

Hauuuu I'm honored you like my insane ramblings.

Twitter and newcomers/fanboys deep-throating Ryukishi over this disgusts and frustrates me. It's like except for me, all the world has gone mad. Just because he helped to create a really fun mystery and story doesn't mean he's a god among men and can't do no wrong. Literally nobody asked for more Rika torture porn, and literally nobody asked for Satoko to become a villainous cunt. I legit believe he did this to justify his sadomasochistic yuri ship and to make more money so he can continue to dick around and not finish his projects in a timely manner.

Fuck, I think even if he had gone back to DEEN and Chiaki Kon and had them be in charge, given how shit the script has been, it'd still be a mess. Though maybe it'd look better and perhaps wouldn't include the shitty glowy eyes holy fuck I can't believe they think it's such a good visual cue to have.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

The absolute mental gymnastics on this bitch undermining her own fucking abuse, that's not how apathy works. Barely a minute into this and already it's pissing me off. I think that's a new record, but there's been so much shit that I guess I would've been surprised if I didn't pop a vessel within the first 30 seconds of one episode.

I'll be back later, I just had to get this out of the way first because I can't fucking believe Ryukishi thought this was such brilliant deduction.

EDIT: Dear God, it just got worse. I can't believe I even sat through this entire episode.

SHE'S NOT LAMBDADELTA AND NEVER WILL BE, HOLY SHIT STOP TRYING TO GASLIGHT US INTO BELIEVING THIS

No, Satoko, you don't care about Rika's happiness, you're only caring about yourself.

@Idiot Asshole please crop this moment out for me because this “smooth” animation was really bad. It's literally just two layers sliding because the animators didn't want to draw each frame of this small moment.

“Hehe geddit? Mion is talking about one thing, but she doesn't realize she's actually telling the complete truth here that Satoko IS lying right now! Kneel before me, plebs!” - Ryukishi, probably

“Hehe remember that time in Tatarigoroshi-hen when Keiichi was trying to cook and almost burned his house down until Satoko (and Rika) arrived to save the day? Uncle Teppei made an oopsie, too X3!” - Ryukishi, most likely

I can't believe this show is trying to cutesify Teppei in general, ugh.

No you fucking didn't until you had “nightmares” of dying alone.

Don't you start making that face now, Satoko. You wanted this, don't start feeling bad about what you're about to make your uncle do.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NO!
NONONONONONONONONONONONONO

Jesus, the animators can't even properly show their faces without throwing them in completely fake silhouettes.

Wait, Ooishi, are you suggesting you're going to be shocked, SHOCKED I say!, if you find out Teppei was imprisoning Satoko? There's no way some abusive pimp has such a history of holding people (children) against their will! Surely you can't be serious!

There's no reason for Teppei and Ooishi to get chummy with each other just because Teppei groveled before him. Ooishi, you said it yourself that you handcuffed Teppei many times for whatever-various-felonies he was being arrested for. There's no fucking way you can just completely forgive and forget what he's done and then follow him to the house because he asked you for a favor (of which he didn't say what the favor was). You're supposed to be one of the smartest characters in this series, and you're already doing something fucking dumb because “the plot” called for it. Holy shit.

Ooishi, you know for a FACT Satoko and Rika were living together because they're the only family they had in each other. You can't possibly think Satoko is telling the truth here after the two of them were living together for at least a year because, y'know, Teppei had fled the village the year prior and Satoshi had vanished. You were on that case, you knew about the family situation at home and why Satoko had to go live with Rika.

Holy shit my head hurts.

Because “God” Ryukishi demanded the plot to be this fucking retarded and contrived.

SO SHE FUCKING DRUGS THEM TO SLEEP BEFORE STICKING THE NEEDLE IN OOISHI'S NECK HOLY SHIT THE LEAKS WERE TRUE

Look, I get it that there's a lot of fan theories out there about the “what ifs” of certain characters suddenly being overtaken by Hinamizawa Syndrome. Ooishi isn't even from Hinamizawa (despite being considered Oyashiro's messenger) though he is from the neighboring Okinomiya and worked closely between the two. So naturally, fans were curious as to why it is he never succumbed to Hinamizawa Syndrome, if he even could.

Are there ways to have made Ooishi paranoid enough to go nuts? He's already in his 50s so if he's seen it all and has kept his cool no matter what, you're gonna have to get super serious with it to even convince the character someone is out to get him or to make up some crazy conspiracy theories like aliens being involved or something (which he didn't believe Rena when she told him about it back in Tsumihoroboshi-hen). Sticking him with a needle to inject him with it is fucking cheating and a cheap way to fulfill that one “what if” in the fandom.

And no, using his determination to find his father-figure's killer(s) is NOT a proper motive to getting him to succumb to Hinamizawa Syndrome. If it was, he would've shown signs a LONG time ago. Fuck off with this retconning shit, Ryukishi.

Also Ooishi sounds like Elmer Fudd when he does a different laugh not the “Ufufu”.

LOL @Idiot Asshole clip this as well! The zoom is too fucking bad to take seriously, not even as a jarring jump scare.

And like in the leaks, Ooishi's taking a leak. This is so fucking bad, oh my God.

What made Ryukishi think this was a good idea, seriously? He's totally 100% serious about this, isn't he? This isn't some cruel joke, is it? He literally expects us to take this as canon?

What the fuck has happened to this franchise?

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

This is the best reveal of them all, though.
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What a fucking disaster.

LOLOLOLOL IT'S REAL

I can now watch an episode while only watching 4 minutes of it because it's all GODDAMN POINTLESS RETREAD

 

[Gensou Hadou]

Can we just get to the dual Satoko parts already? I wonder how Ryukishi will fuck that up.

 

[No Life Prince]

Imagine writing one of the greatest indie horror stories ever written (albeit with otaku and lolicon shit in it sometimes) and then 15 years later publishing stuff that completely destroys everything you created, what the parts of your story meant, and what people liked about the characters.
Well, I guess Ryukishi needs the money.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Holy christ this is stupid. Ooishi getting the syndrome is cheap and unearned, but lets destroy what little momentum we have by having him take a piss!

Also, why do I now expect Ryukishi embrace the loli in the worst way by having Satoko try to jump Teppei's bone? Oh, but PlOt TwEeSt!!1! It was Lambdatoko! The real Satoko doesn't want to be a hentai protagonist but the witches just found it super fucking omoshiroi, hito no ko yo!

I still can't believe Ryukishi is making a fan misunderstanding cannon. The whole Lambda/Bern dynamic is supposed to mirror Rika vs Miyoko god damnit

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Can we just get to the dual Satoko parts already? I wonder how Ryukishi will fuck that up.

since this is a shitshow and the leaks are real, I predict the "Satoko covered in blood" is before/after she goes and kills her friends by intestine pulling.

Fuck you Ryukishi, you're not clever.

Holy christ this is stupid. Ooishi getting the syndrome is cheap and unearned, but lets destroy what little momentum we have by having him take a piss!

Also, why do I now expect Ryukishi embrace the loli in the worst way by having Satoko try to jump Teppei's bone? Oh, but PlOt TwEeSt!!1! It was Lambdatoko! The real Satoko doesn't want to be a hentai protagonist but the witches just found it super fucking omoshiroi, hito no ko yo!

I still can't believe Ryukishi is making a fan misunderstanding cannon. The whole Lambda/Bern dynamic is supposed to mirror Rika vs Miyoko god damnit

I mean it's not like Takano spent centuries slaughtering Rika over and over or anything important like that....

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Imagine writing one of the greatest indie horror stories ever written (albeit with otaku and lolicon shit in it sometimes) and then 15 years later publishing stuff that completely destroys everything you created, what the parts of your story meant, and what people liked about the characters.

Ridley Scott at least spent a good 30 years slowly destroying his creation, but he doesn't really give a shit. What's Ryukishi's reasoning for doing it in half that time?

 

[No Life Prince]

Ridley Scott at least spent a good 30 years slowly destroying his creation, but he doesn't really give a shit. What's Ryukishi's reasoning for doing it in half that time?

...probably so he could see Satoko and Rika (Although to be fair I think his favorite/ideal character is Rena) in a much better and more appealing art style animated so he can jack off to it and all the new fanart and porn people will make of them.
I mean, that's the vibe I get from him. Seems like a nice guy in person, but still has to force in all this dumb shit. In a way it's admirable that he didn't make his story more accessable, but it's frustrating at the same time. Because in the end he still seems to care more about the appealing nature of his characters then the interesting concepts that he brung forth in the visual novels (Such as "Is it ever right to murder people, and what causes someone to become a murderer" in Higurashi).
At least Umineko is much more difficult to pull off dumb merchandising shit.
Maybe, at this point, he just wants to see what he can get away with. He's made his piece, now he's editing and morphing it to see how distorted it can potentially look, and how people emotionally connect to it.

 

[Trombonista]

I'm just gonna guess that the ending will piss off everybody.

 

[Idiot Asshole]

>Ooishi's master plan to catch the murderers is to smash stuff and piss on a shrine
Ah ha ha ha ha ha, it's even worse than we thought

Anyway here you go, @Kari Kamiya

And here's a classic from his rampage that'll probably be reused next episode

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Because in the end he still seems to care more about the appealing nature of his characters then the interesting concepts that he brung forth in the visual novels (Such as "Is it ever right to murder people, and what causes someone to become a murderer" in Higurashi).

He at least answers the question of "Is it ever right to murder" in a bonus "R07 corner" in saying it's never right no matter what, and the consequences of it should follow after. He kinda addressed it in-series with Tsumihoroboshi-hen, but he dolled it up with the "power of friendship" speech (which, yes, is a powerful moment) and then let things snowball from there without it being brought up ever again. It's that actual moral he was going for that is sorely missing from this series and is why it peeves me off so much that Gou and Sotsu is glorifying violence.

I think the entire reason he made Higurashi was to build up to that very moral in Tsumihoroboshi-hen, which is why it feels like a legit climax compared to the arcs that followed after. How he could forget his own lesson to appease to the gorn crowd baffles me. Least in Umineko, witches were involved who were morally ambiguous to begin with and didn't view human life the same way as mortals, but Umineko violence doesn't fit in the Higurashi universe because every single violent action brought about devastating consequences to the murderer, and also were committed by mortals who can't exactly pull off the same cruel, sadistic acts as witches. The Sonozaki torture shed I sincerely doubt would've spilt as much blood in actual practice, which is why Mion's mutiliation of Kimiyoshi is so over-the-top and completely uncalled for.

Also thanks @Idiot Asshole, really appreciate it.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

I'm just gonna guess that the ending will piss off everybody.

I see it going one of two ways, both utterly unsatisfying and retarded.
1.) Rika stays in Hinamizawa, utterly cowed by Satoko's new retarded resolve, leaving us pretty much where we stood as of the end of Kai, making it double stupid.
2.) Rikastel and Satodelta assfuck each other in battle until Rikastel commits murder or murder-suicide with the sacred blade thingy. If only Satoko dies, she'll give some long wanky diatribe about how "she realizes Satoko cared" or some shit. If it's a murder-suicide, they'll die, fade to black, smash cut to an elegant checkerboard room and swarming golden butterflies which form Bernkastel and Lambdadelta, who go on about game pieces and shit then laugh at each other's game, cue Katayoku no Tori as it fades out.

Mark my words, because that's how this retarded crossover shit always goes.

 

[Valstrax]

I see it going one of two ways, both utterly unsatisfying and retarded.
1.) Rika stays in Hinamizawa, utterly cowed by Satoko's new retarded resolve, leaving us pretty much where we stood as of the end of Kai, making it double stupid.
2.) Rikastel and Satodelta assfuck each other in battle until Rikastel commits murder or murder-suicide with the sacred blade thingy. If only Satoko dies, she'll give some long wanky diatribe about how "she realizes Satoko cared" or some shit. If it's a murder-suicide, they'll die, fade to black, smash cut to an elegant checkerboard room and swarming golden butterflies which form Bernkastel and Lambdadelta, who go on about game pieces and shit then laugh at each other's game, cue Katayoku no Tori as it fades out.

Mark my words, because that's how this retarded crossover shit always goes.

I'm honestly just curious to see how everything will fall apart.