Ryukishi07 megathread / griefing thread - Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, etc.

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So what do you think would have happened in Cicconia 2 if it ever releases? The game pretty much ended on total global annihilation and half the cast dead. I guess the main protagonist would found a way to go back in time and tried to suss out who sold them out.

In general the whole power armor is just... weird. Like the game starts with describing it as massive death trap that is relegated to children. And afterwards it's described as being hilariously broken piece of tech that basically turns you into a demigod.
please. don't mention ciconia. please don't remind me of what could have been....

i'm pretty sure that ciconia phase 2 has something to do with a pandemic. i mean wasn't that the entire reason ryukishi07 gave for not releasing it during the pandemic? that it was too insensitive or some horseshit? not that it matters since he clearly abandoned it for MOAR HIGURASHI
 
please. don't mention ciconia. please don't remind me of what could have been....

i'm pretty sure that ciconia phase 2 has something to do with a pandemic. i mean wasn't that the entire reason ryukishi07 gave for not releasing it during the pandemic? that it was too insensitive or some horseshit? not that it matters since he clearly abandoned it for MOAR HIGURASHI
Something tells me that without BT around to tardwrangle him anymore, Cicconia will be another mess like Umineko and nu-Higurashi. And even OG Higurashi ain't perfect. This thread has really pulled off the nostalgia goggles
 
please. don't mention ciconia. please don't remind me of what could have been....

i'm pretty sure that ciconia phase 2 has something to do with a pandemic. i mean wasn't that the entire reason ryukishi07 gave for not releasing it during the pandemic? that it was too insensitive or some horseshit? not that it matters since he clearly abandoned it for MOAR HIGURASHI
Wasn't the point at the end of Ciconia that the villains won and the world was doomed? A pandemic would have been pretty pointless by then. And even then he could just written some other catastrophe, nevermind the fact COVID ended up being a nothing burger.
 
The only part of Ciconia I've actually read was some preview snippet and it was some of the dumbest shit I've ever read in my god damned life. So not-Tomitake(dude he's referencing past characters again so clever) goes to talk with that hacker guy, and we get Ryukishi not understanding how computers work in the slightest (does the funny color virus modify files directly or just mess with the display? or both? what does it do with compressed files? can you really account for every single possible file format that might have some kind color data in it? what if it's not stored in rgb but in cymk or something else? jk computers are magic lol), more dual personality autism (dude having a internet haxxor persona is just like parallel processing or whatever the fuck and also shkanon, that wasn't a dumb plot twist at all lololol) and then not-Tomitake yelling at the guy "why did you KILL DA BEE??" repeatedly which is also stupid anyway because it could have just been a programming kludge, that overwriting to the end of a color triplet was less work than singling out the middle then stopping. Well not with Ryukishi's understanding of computers and color data it isn't.
If this is what he thinks is worthy of posting as a preview to get people interested in Ciconia I can only imagine the rest of the work is just absolutely retarded dogshit.

Anyway, Umineko.
I was excited to see the next part of ep4 was a whole 2 and a half hours with no Ange. Fool was I, for that entire section has been nothing but shounen battle bullshit and misplaced comedy. George babbling about muh love Shannon and Jessica getting through to Kanon feels extra hollow knowing it's just the Shkanonborg going around shooting them.
The only thing of any possible value has been the interactions within the survivors group from characters who don't usually interact much, mainly Kanon, Krauss and Kyrie, Nanjo is basically just there and Shannon is... Shannon.
Also, where is Battler in all this? Just in his room sitting on his thumb? He could just peek out the window towards the rose garden and see George fighting a stripper and goats... or see him getting shot by Shannon, or whatever's happening. Or hear any of that. This is stupid. Actually, Meta-Battler hasn't shown his face this whole time either. How much time is this all taking, anyway?
You could easily improve this by having Kyrie's group routinely finding telephones along their path and calling Battler with updates; the absurdity of her conveniently finding these phones in a dungeon would itself be the first hint that they're actually staying in one place, or maybe moving around the mansion or something. Then Battler, even now armed with his knowledge from ep3 that fantasy scenes are bullshit, would need to come up with explanations for these calls, as he hasn't reached the level of enlightenment that everyone on the gameboard can feed him bullshit as well.
Also, the Shkanonborg would need to be in two places at once to kill both George and Jessica, or else one of them would have had time to wander around and screw things up, as Jessica even thought about doing.
 
One thing I never understood the Shannon thing. They do the whole "what gender is it?" shtick, but considering as a child he fell from a cliff and had his nether regions irrevocably scarred, it's obvious it was a male.
And if you're too retarded for that, it's not that hard to figure out via Lion
 
And if you're too retarded for that, it's not that hard to figure out via Lion
In general Shakannon being so hot literally the entire house revolves around her is less believable than magic existing. You'd think being a forced trannie from infancy in the 1970's would wreak havoc on your body rather than make you the ultimate twink.
 
And this is why I cling to the schizo belief that Shkanon was unplanned and retconned in, or at least that it got screwed up somehow along the way. Like, it's a medical condition and not a cliff-induced crippling, or there's some other identity entanglement going on but they're not literally the same person, something like that.

Also, there's some little character interview bit where Lion basically confirms he's male, by saying he's good at cooking then that people should be good at cooking regardless of gender. So lmao that.
 
Plus the male voice that speaks to Natsuhi over the phone. God I still hate the Shkanontrice twist.
Y'know, there's a funny thing about that, if you follow the logic.

First call: Voiced by Battler's VA because it's later suggested he was the caller. Natsuhi assumes the voice is a male.
Second call: Voiced by Lambda because... who the fuck knows why. Natsuhi notes the voice sounds like a child or girl trying to sound like an adult male.

At no point does Natsuhi make any note of the voice having changed between calls. Conclusion... Battler is a squeaker. Guess those weird drugs he mentioned in ep1 didn't really do the job, huh?
 
Y'know, there's a funny thing about that, if you follow the logic.

First call: Voiced by Battler's VA because it's later suggested he was the caller. Natsuhi assumes the voice is a male.
Second call: Voiced by Lambda because... who the fuck knows why. Natsuhi notes the voice sounds like a child or girl trying to sound like an adult male.

At no point does Natsuhi make any note of the voice having changed between calls. Conclusion... Battler is a squeaker. Guess those weird drugs he mentioned in ep1 didn't really do the job, huh?
Battler confirmed heckin valid dood
 
So how about that episode four.

So, right after Jessica calls Battler and then gets shot by the Shkanonborg (despite leaving the phone hanging off the hook, Battler does not hear a gunshot), Kyrie calls Battler up, telling him lies at gunpoint before she's shot (which he hears this time)... So now Shkanon has to not only kill George and Jessica within minutes of each other (including time to change into Kanon's outfit apparently, then change back later) she has to teleport from one end of the mansion to the other to harrass both Kyrie and Jessica (and also kill Jessica silently, somehow). Even if Jessica was just waiting around in her room for Shannon to show up and kill her (sure is convenient Battler hung up on her himself, huh? so he didn't hear anything else from her), Kyrie's call still has to be timed for right after Jessica's call ends (which is determined by... Battler himself hanging up. not even Jessica.) That plus all the other dead people scattered around outside the mansion. And Kanon, who dies ninth and is the first of Kyrie's group to go, whatever that even means. What the FUCK is happening?
 
Again have to ask: Why did the anime give Mion, and of course Rena and Keiichi and Shion fuck-all to do? This is what happens when you don't keep an eye on what the director is doing to your precious script, Ryukishi. (But that's also what happens when someone who's never worked on horror/psychological-thrillers gets hired on as a director to a psychological-thriller but still has his shitty Rescue Me! on the brain.)
 
Again have to ask: Why did the anime give Mion, and of course Rena and Keiichi and Shion fuck-all to do? This is what happens when you don't keep an eye on what the director is doing to your precious script, Ryukishi. (But that's also what happens when someone who's never worked on horror/psychological-thrillers gets hired on as a director to a psychological-thriller but still has his shitty Rescue Me! on the brain.)
It’s the same case for Higurashi Mei.
Most of the newer cards are just lewd stuff plus the same kind of autism and not even worth the grind to pull for any of the banners. Still have no idea what the hell those Studio Ghibli pokemon units and “true oyashiro infection” units are about.

You can’t have psychological horror when no one ever takes anything seriously and the tone changes to be lighthearted so often that you stop giving a shit. If the developers don’t care about the project then why should I?
 
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Eh, at least Mei is (from what I've gleaned) fun and still has some fragment(hah) of respect for the characters.
 
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