Ryukishi07 megathread / griefing thread - Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, etc.

[R.E.O. Spedwagon]

Did someone play Loopers? It has Key and Ryukishi07 name on it.

It's extremely forgettable. The mystery it sets up in the first quarter is probably the best part and the most Ryukishi-like, but that ends up completely pointless and irrelevant immediately afterwards, making it fall flat.
Most of the cast is pretty much pointless, too, with most of them having really vapid issues that are resolved in the same chapter, and it never explores the consequences of living in a day's worth of time loop for decades in any depth. It's probably worst with the exposition guy, who did some fucked up stuff

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had to beat some of their friends to death countless times to put them in a coma and keep them from going completely insane

and the psychological consequences of this are then completely ignored, and he just continues on as if everything is normal.
The overall story felt like it was trying to be several things at once, and only one of them felt like it played to Ryukishi's strengths, but that was also the part the actual story didn't care about.

 

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It's extremely forgettable. The mystery it sets up in the first quarter is probably the best part and the most Ryukishi-like, but that ends up completely pointless and irrelevant immediately afterwards, making it fall flat.
Most of the cast is pretty much pointless, too, with most of them having really vapid issues that are resolved in the same chapter, and it never explores the consequences of living in a day's worth of time loop for decades in any depth. It's probably worst with the exposition guy, who did some fucked up stuff

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had to beat some of their friends to death countless times to put them in a coma and keep them from going completely insane

and the psychological consequences of this are then completely ignored, and he just continues on as if everything is normal.
The overall story felt like it was trying to be several things at once, and only one of them felt like it played to Ryukishi's strengths, but that was also the part the actual story didn't care about.

That's the impression I got from other reviews online, at least I saw in one of them the amazing sentence of "Before Ryu07 made When They Cry into When They Dilate".

 

[Horribadger]

"Before Ryu07 made When They Cry into When They Dilate"

holy fucking shit

 

[Unhindered Clown]

Why do you people even care? Higurashi is pretty much done and has been for the better part of 15 years already. The. story. is. OVER

The powers that be clearly aren't allowing the franchise to sit in its coffin and I enjoy discussing the trainwreck as it happens

 

[Trombonista]

Translated update. It's all stupid no matter what language it's in, though. Even with Hinamizawa Syndrome, Ooishi shouldn't suspect a child of being the leader of a conspiracy.

 

[Unhindered Clown]

Given the context of this new chapter, it's safe to assume that the "interesting" aspect of the Tataridamashi ending will not be Satoko clenching her fist out of anger/frustration K1 abandoned her to help Rika, she's just gonna blush with red eyes and laugh her ass off in the middle of a bloodbath.

Chapter Tldr: we do a little trolling.

 

[Lurker]

JUST FUCKING RELEASE CICONIA AND STOP BEATING A DEAD HORSE WITH HIGURASHI

 

[Horribadger]

Phase 2 never, too busy with whatever wankshit Trianthology Gerokuso and Beako are

 

[Trombonista]

And just when I thought it couldn't get anymore ridiculous, this is Tatariakashi-hen's climax.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

And just when I thought it couldn't get anymore ridiculous, this is Tatariakashi-hen's climax.

That was the most comical Hinamizawa Syndrome ever

 

[Unhindered Clown]

This Rena definitely had to be committed to a psych ward after this incident. I think this is the first mainline canon moment I've seen where the whole "Once the carrier queen dies the Hinamizawa Syndrome takes over the entire village and they die" thing actually is on-screen. And not something Takano orchestrated to perpetuate her version of Grandpa Takano's theory. Closest thing that I've seen was Higurashi Outbreak(?) but that's not the main storyline.

Kagurashi's next, right?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I think this is the first mainline canon moment I've seen where the whole "Once the carrier queen dies the Hinamizawa Syndrome takes over the entire village and they die" thing actually is on-screen.

The anime showed that Rika didn't automatically die from being shot/whacked by Ooishi until Satoko put a bullet in her head. Unless it was changed here to where yes, Rika is absolutely dead before Satoko puts a bullet in her head to be absolutely sure

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of which I doubt because of how she was drawn making some kind of eye reaction to getting shot, which she really shouldn't if she's dead, but it could just be a sign of poor consistency

I think this was only made possible simply because everyone witnessed her martyrdom and had their freak-out moment. Takano should've made such a spectacle if she had wanted to "prove" it to be true.

But then again, I think it was stated it needed to be exactly 24 to 48 hours of her death before it would take hold over the entire village, so this moment was just bug-nuts bonkers and stupid overall.

 

[Unhindered Clown]

The anime showed that Rika didn't automatically die from being shot/whacked by Ooishi until Satoko put a bullet in her head. Unless it was changed here to where yes, Rika is absolutely dead before Satoko puts a bullet in her head to be absolutely sure

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of which I doubt because of how she was drawn making some kind of eye reaction to getting shot, which she really shouldn't if she's dead, but it could just be a sign of poor consistencyView attachment 4684493

I think this was only made possible simply because everyone witnessed her martyrdom and had their freak-out moment. Takano should've made such a spectacle if she had wanted to "prove" it to be true.

But then again, I think it was stated it needed to be exactly 24 to 48 hours of her death before it would take hold over the entire village, so this moment was just bug-nuts bonkers and stupid overall.

You're right I forgot since I haven't rewatched Sotsu since it aired honestly.
The anime didn't show her face change after Satoko blew her brains out, but I forgot that they decided to clarify Rika somehow was still alive when she was shot. She just didn't remember the bullet until after she gave up and was preparing Satoko's birthday present.

Tomato might have changed the eyes a bit to illustrate it upfront.

I don't quite remember the time frame that was meant to take place, I know in some fragments Rika wound up dead about a day or two before the GHD but in Minagoroshi she and the village died on the same night I believe. At least in the manga it seemed to be the case.

 

[Trombonista]

I guess this also means Eua lied about HS no longer occurring naturally. The only other possibilities are that natural HS returned after so many loops or Tomato stopped giving a shit.

 

[Horribadger]

Clearly Satoko aerosolized the injection juice and everyone breathed it in

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Yeah just looked it up, and Takano Hifumi believed that should the queen carrier die, all the villagers will reach L5 between 24 and 48 hours. It's just Ryukishi being stupid, and Tomato never changed it up to make it less stupid. At least Ooishi didn't break his back to shoot someone over his shoulder in the manga, but still.

 

[Trombonista]

Yeah just looked it up, and Takano Hifumi believed that should the queen carrier die, all the villagers will reach L5 between 24 and 48 hours. It's just Ryukishi being stupid, and Tomato never changed it up to make it less stupid. At least Ooishi didn't break his back to shoot someone over his shoulder in the manga, but still.

Hey, if Ryukishi doesn't give a shit, why should Tomato?

 

[Smug]

Hey, if Ryukishi doesn't give a shit, why should Tomato?

I'm just so thankful that I stopped giving a shit before he did, and I'm going to carry on believing that every new Higura-yandere-yuri-shi spinoff isn't canon for my own peace of mind. Honestly, seeing someone going out of their way so hard to try to retroactively ruin their own 'magnum opuses' is as depressing as it is mind-boggling.

 

[Inafune Fanfiction]

I'm just so thankful that I stopped giving a shit before he did, and I'm going to carry on believing that every new Higura-yandere-yuri-shi spinoff isn't canon for my own peace of mind. Honestly, seeing someone going out of their way so hard to try to retroactively ruin their own 'magnum opuses' is as depressing as it is mind-boggling.

NGL, it was definitely the discordnigger tranny fanbase off 4chan, reddit, and twitter that put me off the franchise. Though they leaned more heavily into umineko.

Higurashi was more of an average slice of life than a "mystery" and shouldn't be advertised as one. Might be cultural differences or just shit writing. If they actually explored the sea of fragments then sure, it could be. He does a half assed attempt at connecting the stories through it, but Trianthology was the only one that actually put anything concrete about it into a mainline title that wasn't some obscure comic buried under all the throwaway waifus and hentai doujins at comiket somewhere.

No Passione Higurashi doesnt exist shut up.

 

[R.E.O. Spedwagon]

Higurashi was more of an average slice of life than a "mystery" and shouldn't be advertised as one.

I'm honestly not sure what gave you that impression. Higurashi had a heavy focus on the mystery from the very beginning.
The very first scene of the story involves the main protagonist beating two of his friends to death, which sets the tone pretty well.
The first half of the first three stories may have had a slice-of-life focus, but the second half, which was really the meat of the story, was clearly about horror and suspense, setting up various mysteries for the reader to solve, and the latter half of Higurashi has even less slice-of-life and much more drama and resolutions to the ongoing mystery.