Rowling Derangement Syndrome - "TERF/Woke Author Bad!!1"

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I read Good Omens twice, and I am notorious for only reading half of anything, so that's something. Speaking of which, I watched half of one episode of American Gods, got distracted, and just never came back to it. I have no right to really comment on it, but nothing anyone says about it makes me want to revisit it.
Could not get through American Gods even though I enjoyed the weird freaky shit. I just didn't understand the plot. I read Stardust and liked it, but that was so long ago. Anyway, disappointed he's a shitty person but whatever.
 
If I were to ever write a fantasy novel that became popular among bookish teenage women with above average internet use, I would simply refuse to have sex with anyone who has ever read my novel. You just have to know that anyone who is a fan of you is almost certainly unhinged at that point.
 
I largely agree with @Tragon Dirtle on the state of his books. They have some promising elements to them but also get bogged down with weird, edgy sex content and tranny bullshit. Good Omens is the best of them because of his collaboration with Pratchett and (IMO) they modeled a lot of the prose of that book after Douglas Adams. This is the state of modern sf and fantasy literature, though: just take a look at who Patrick Tomlinson associates with, and the SFWA thread. I used to love the genres but my real favorites are long dead and I’m thankful for that. It’s also IMO why Harry Potter took off like it did: Stephen King is right in the sense where JKR knows how to tell a good story that people of all ages can enjoy, with likable and memorable characters, without getting too bogged down in political moralizing.
 
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I'm currently listening to Neverwhere when I'm at work, it's a good listen but I think it's really helped by the narrator, if I was reading it I probably wouldn't be as engaged, the language and twisting of common terms and locations and naming conventions ranges from somewhat clever to eyerolling. I've not read any of his other works but if they're similar to this book I wouldn't hate them. It's pretty standard urban fantasy but I like the genre so I'm biased.
 
I've read most of Gaiman's books and they're mid. A bit fetishistic but mostly very much hitting the right notes for the gothy and emo youth. Gaiman is about quirky characters and not much about plot. I don't enjoy them as an adult.

I still enjoy Good Omens a lot. It feels like a Pratchett novel and not like a Gaiman book at all and I don't see it as part of his collection really. The series however...well I already posted an angry autistic review about that in the designated thread. It's horrific and shows how poor Gaiman is with plot (edit: and depth in characters) imho.

JK may not be the best writer out there, but she does know how to tell a story.
 
has anyone else posted his MeToo era posts about believing women?
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what does he mean "is that the way you read it?"... is the correct interpretation that he didn't have to rape her for inspiration, but he was just doing it as a side thing in addition to using her as a way to become a best selling author? is that supposed to be better?
 
TruffleSpark said:
has anyone else posted his MeToo era posts about believing women?
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what does he mean "is that the way you read it?"... is the correct interpretation that he didn't have to rape her for inspiration, but he was just doing it as a side thing in addition to using her as a way to become a best selling author? is that supposed to be better?
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I think Gay-Man was meaning that although the fact that the fellow was raping the Muse to get his inspiration, it was supposed to be a tale about women being exploited and the exploiter getting his comeuppance.

It wasn’t glamorizing rape, which is how Gay-Man is implying Phdog interpreted it.
 
Peepeepoopoo Witch said:
Care to explain how they suck? From what I've read about them they seem really terrible, but would love to hear from people who've actually read them.
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I'm not gonna say they suck, but I'd agree with @Prince Vegeta that they're mid. I read a handful of his books, and I genuinely don't see the appeal. He's basically a British Stephen King with a tween gothic flavor and slightly better at writing endings (and maybe more artsy drugs than coke), but overall similarly bland and uninspired. He lacks style and surprise. American Gods dragged for way too long, that's the most I can remember years after reading it. The idea of old gods and religions crossing over to the New World and blending together in new ways was actually a pretty interesting concept, but the execution was shit. I liked Anansi Boys, but it's just an okay book, nothing special. I don't get why he's so hyped up in the writing circles when there are tons of more talented fantasy writers.

InsulindianPhasmid said:
I remain convinced that the good of Good Omens comes from Terry Pratchett. That second series on Amazon was complete fucking shit. It was like fan fiction.
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I'm inclined to agree, but I grew disillusioned with Pratchett over the years. I'm not saying he was a bad writer, because some of his books, particularly early-to-middle Discworld ones were great (especially the ones without recurring protagonists; Pyramids remains my favorite and is the only one I haven't gotten rid of), but there was a point he had to stop and he didn't. I gave up around Making Money, but the rot was obvious since around Maskerade or Hogfather. Also, the fandom around Good Omens is fucking insufferable and kinda soured me on that book.
 
You’d think that Rowling arguing that Tims being in women’s only spaces would have them asking if maybe it’s time to open LGBT-only shelters. It would lead to a better outcome because staff at an LGBT shelter likely will be able to serve the alphabet community a lot better.

I guess not. It’s about having unrestricted access to women it seems.
 
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I'm inclined to agree, but I grew disillusioned with Pratchett over the years. I'm not saying he was a bad writer, because some of his books, particularly early-to-middle Discworld ones were great (especially the ones without recurring protagonists; Pyramids remains my favorite and is the only one I haven't gotten rid of), but there was a point he had to stop and he didn't. I gave up around Making Money, but the rot was obvious since around Maskerade or Hogfather.
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I'm quite fond of Pratchett - I read a lot of Discworld, growing up. The Witches books are the best ones, for my money, with Witches Abroad being my personal favourite, though I do enjoy Lords and Ladies and Carpe Jugulum, as well.

It's a shame his daughter is a fucking huge handmaiden, and the troons have claimed Monstrous Regiment as ackshually being about them, when it obviously isn't.
 
Looks like they managed to get an American to play JK.


Producers of controversial Edinburgh Fringe show about JK Rowling and her views on the trans debate have moved to a new venue after facing the threat of cancellation.

TERF – which was originally called 'TERF C***' – will be staged by the Assembly Festival, one of the 'Big Four' promoters at the Fringe. It had originally been booked for St Stephen's Theatre in the city's Stockbridge area.

The play, by US screenwriter Joshua Kaplan, features a fictional 'intervention' organised by Harry Potter stars Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint, and Emma Watson. The trio have previously turned their backs on the woman who launched their lucrative careers.

Dani Rae, Managing Director of Assembly Festival said: "We're pleased to be able to provide a stage for Joshua Kaplan and the team at Civil Disobedience in bringing TERF to this year's Edinburgh Festival Fringe. The Fringe has always been an open access festival and there’s no better place to explore important balanced talking points such as this."

Rowling, 58, has been a vocal advocate for women's rights, including the right to single-sex spaces away from trans women, most of whom still retain their male genitalia, and the right for women to compete in single-sex sporting events. Away from the closeted world of left-wing activists and pampered celebrities, the overwhelming majority of the public agree with her 100% and can't understand why her views generate such hatred.

The millionaire author, who lives in Edinburgh, will be portrayed on stage by Texan actress Laura Kay Bailey, 43. She apparently does a "pitch perfect" imitation of her Gloucestershire accent, which has a "very slight, almost undetectable lisp".

Bailey, who does not use X, formerly Twitter, told the Sunday Times she was "terribly uninformed, woefully uninformed" about the blistering trans debate on social media. She added: "I am fully aware I'm playing a character who's just an absolute villain for so many people. But what I try to do as an actor, and what you are taught to do as a professional, is try to understand who is the human underneath that."

She insisted the play portrays the "viciousness" on "both sides" but admitted she can't understand some of Rowling's more controversial posts. "Trans people deserve trans rights and human rights," she said. "That's just a given. And I don't understand why she would attack and say some of the things she said on Twitter."

Despite this, Bailey urged the Harry Potter author to come and see herself being pilloried on stage. "I think she should come and watch it," she said. "I think she should. I would if somebody was playing me on stage. I don't think I could stay away."

According to Kaplan, the production is "very excited to be presenting TERF at one of the premiere Edinburgh Fringe venues and extraordinarily grateful to Assembly for providing a space for this increasingly important conversation".

Tickets for the show at Assembly Festival go on-sale on Monday, July 8. Customers who bought tickets for the show at St Stephen's will be offered a refund and the opportunity to book new tickets for the Assembly run.
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There's also a pay walled Times article about it.
 
She insisted the play portrays the "viciousness" on "both sides" but admitted she can't understand some of Rowling's more controversial posts. "Trans people deserve trans rights and human rights," she said. "That's just a given. And I don't understand why she would attack and say some of the things she said on Twitter."
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Has she tried asking her or just skipped ahead to publicly ridiculing her in a play that calls her a cunt?
 
Laura Kay Bailey is a nothing actor. Even her demo reel is shit acting.

link to her (skimpy) imdb page

the imdb page includes her demo reel, in case you want to point and laugh.

EDIT: And sorry to be _that person_ but is Laura Kay Bailey a real woman, or a true and honest "woman"? That jaw, and the lack of hips.
 
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luigismanslave said:
also calling yourself woefully uninformed about the charicature you're about to play is a great start, must say
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Whining that the author should come and see it does not improve matters. "Why aren't you flattered by a play whose title calls you personally a cunt before you even get in the door," suggests delusion or active malice.
 
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