Richard Meyer v. Mark Waid (2018)

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Waid Livestream - What will happen?

  • Talks about the lawsuit.

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Further incriminates himself.

    Votes: 18 48.6%

  • Defames YaBoi again.

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Doesn't talk about the lawsuit nor CG.

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Host disagrees with Waid on something, chimpout insues.

    Votes: 7 18.9%

  • Normal interview. (no drama)

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • Total voters
    37
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I'm just ducking in here to point out that I really don't give a shit about American comics, and yet... despite all that... even I know who Antarctic Press is. Including fact they're based in Texas.

The Dunns have been doing anime style artwork for years. I remember Ninja High School. They had licenses for Captain Harlock and Robotech. They've had some of their people at anime cons before.

I find the claim that Waid didn't know any of this hard to believe.
 
Captain Manning said:
I'm just ducking in here to point out that I really don't give a shit about American comics, and yet... despite all that... even I know who Antarctic Press is. Including fact they're based in Texas.

The Dunns have been doing anime style artwork for years. I remember Ninja High School. They had licenses for Captain Harlock and Robotech. They've had some of their people at anime cons before.

I find the claim that Waid didn't know any of this hard to believe.
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He's quite simply lying, but even if he didn't know, it's not even relevant. One cannot thwart personal jurisdiction by an act of willful ignorance, and any rational person would know to expect to be haled into court if they reached out and illegally assaulted someone.

A sensible person would know where they were subjecting themselves to jurisdiction.

In any event, no sense of due process or fair play is implicated in the least by the notion that if you do what Waid did, even if you accept his unbelievable tale of incredible stupidity beyond even his abilities, you should expect to answer for it wherever its effects occurred. In this case, Texas, not somewhere Waid has any trouble going to to defame Meyer in person.
 
AnOminous said:
He's quite simply lying, but even if he didn't know, it's not even relevant. One cannot thwart personal jurisdiction by an act of willful ignorance, and any rational person would know to expect to be haled into court if they reached out and illegally assaulted someone.

A sensible person would know where they were subjecting themselves to jurisdiction.

In any event, no sense of due process or fair play is implicated in the least by the notion that if you do what Waid did, even if you accept his unbelievable tale of incredible stupidity beyond even his abilities, you should expect to answer for it wherever its effects occurred. In this case, Texas, not somewhere Waid has any trouble going to to defame Meyer in person.
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Doesn't or Didn't Mark Waid own several comic shops? Which means he has almost certainly done business with AP. Even if Diamond was the middleman. Which makes it harder and harder for his cries of deliberate ignorance to stand up.
 
RodgerDodger said:
Which makes it harder and harder for his cries of deliberate ignorance to stand up.
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It's desperate and non-credible, and I suppose Waid's counsel has decided he has so thoroughly nuked his own credibility on any issue that any further damage is merely cumulative. After the open and immediately exposed perjury, he is a giant zero and his word is worthless. He is essentially no man at all as far as this court is concerned.

In any event, though, the court will probably pretend to believe the ignorance simply to rule it doesn't matter in any event. If the judge bothers to declare him non-credible in a legal opinion, it's out of pure dislike.
 
Captain Manning said:
I'm just ducking in here to point out that I really don't give a shit about American comics, and yet... despite all that... even I know who Antarctic Press is. Including fact they're based in Texas.

The Dunns have been doing anime style artwork for years. I remember Ninja High School. They had licenses for Captain Harlock and Robotech. They've had some of their people at anime cons before.

I find the claim that Waid didn't know any of this hard to believe.
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i knew who AP was when this happened and I dont give a shit about regular comics either. You can probably guess why.
 
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AnOminous said:
If they respond at all it should be to the silliness about the complaint. Remember, they didn't have the information about Waid defaming Meyer while physically present in Texas because Waid tried to deceive the court about that in a perjured declaration and hadn't admitted to it.
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Nick thinks that they should respond to the 'defamed Waid as a pedo' line i pointed out earlier as that's a clear lie. Also mentioned that Zack and Byrne should look into trying to get the SLAPP motion dismissed because they have had a lot of time to file it concurrently and appear to be attempting win via wasting Meyers money. He doesn't know the rules of civil procedure in Texas though. AnOminous clears this up below.

Edit: Despite the response going hard with the no contract between Meyer and AP argument, the owner provided more evidence that he thought there was.
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Jub-Jub said:
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Nick thinks that they should respond to the 'defamed Waid as a pedo' line i pointed out earlier as that's a clear lie. Also mentioned that Zack and Byrne should look into trying to get the SLAPP motion dismissed because they have had a lot of time to file it concurrently and appear to be attempting win via wasting Meyers money. He doesn't know the rules of civil procedure in Texas though.
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The parties agreed to extend the deadline to file the TCPA motion until after the jurisdictional motion is decided. Docket Entry 17.
 
AnOminous said:
The parties agreed to extend the deadline to file the TCPA motion until after the jurisdictional motion is decided. Docket Entry 17.
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I forget, does that counter start once the responses to the Jurisdictional question are filed, or ruled on? I remember there was some debate about that?
 
RodgerDodger said:
I forget, does that counter start once the responses to the Jurisdictional question are filed, or ruled on? I remember there was some debate about that?
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It is hereby ORDERED that the deadline is extended, such that if the Court denies (in whole or in part) Defendant's motion to dismiss for lack of personal jurisdiction, Defendant would only then need to file any motion to dismiss under the TCPA within 14 days of the Court's order on the jurisdictional motion. For clarity, the 14-day period would not begin to run on a magistrate's report and recommendation, but only on the Court's order on that report and recommendation.
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Docket #15
 
Waid posted a gofundme update via facebook begging for money and trying to shape the narrative to maintain any semblance of respect after he loses.
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The "save Waid's career" strategy going forward seems to be to paint him as the hero saving comics industry standing up against hate-filled racists-- but went too far and/or lost the case due to a questionable legal decision.
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Pedro Sanchez said:
That's honestly been the most amazing thing for me throughout all this. Zack raises over 400K for Jawbreakers, 119K for Ironsights, and then another 100K for legal fees with a complete media blackout. No promotion from BleedingCool. Vice, Polygon, Kotaku, CBR, MarySue, comic pros, the comic book subreddit whichs proudly announced they ban anyone who tries to talk positive about Zack or his books there, no one. No one but his subscriber base and word of mouth. Meanwhile people like Waid, Kwanzer, Mags and all these other fundraiders get front page coverage on all these sites and promoted like hell from comic pros, and they can only raise a fraction of the money. Either these outlets have no influence at all, or all these people and their fans are poor as hell.

If Waid has to pay a million out to Zack in damages, he's bankrupt, and nobody is raising that kind of money for him. They can't even raise Zack levels of money for themselves.
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That's why removing peoples access to banking and financial services for wrong think is the newest tactic in the culture war. It's the only thing you can do to those fucking industrious white makes who have the gall to go ahead and succeed anyway after they've been denounced by the right side of history :suffering:
 
It's adorable that Waid thinks the quarter million dollars that went into the lawsuit would have been spent on the absolute trash comic books that provoked Comicsgate in the first place.
 
Mola Ram said:
It's adorable that Waid thinks the quarter million dollars that went into the lawsuit would have been spent on the absolute trash comic books that provoked Comicsgate in the first place.
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If there's hope for comics, it lies in the indies. Simple as, it's why people buy manga because it's not calling the reader a bad person for being who they are.

If you wanna make things better, buy indie. I've read many great indies, where they tell great stories and DON'T profess how much they despise their audience and the source material. You can tell when a work doesn't respect their readers.
 
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UnderwaterOlympics said:
Waid posted a gofundme update via facebook begging for money and trying to shape the narrative to maintain any semblance of respect after he loses.
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The "save Waid's career" strategy going forward seems to be to paint him as the hero saving comics industry standing up against hate-filled racists-- but went too far and/or lost the case due to a questionable legal decision.
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Guess they're gonna ignore that letter where the owner literally wrote that they're being bullied out of not publishing the comic by their own peers and Waid hounding them like an abusive ex in those texts. Really hope he gets that spanking he deserves.
 
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UnderwaterOlympics said:
Waid posted a gofundme update via facebook begging for money and trying to shape the narrative to maintain any semblance of respect after he loses.
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The "save Waid's career" strategy going forward seems to be to paint him as the hero saving comics industry standing up against hate-filled racists-- but went too far and/or lost the case due to a questionable legal decision.
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If Waid's so confident why not just drop the gloves and push for an early as possible court date? Or at least make an offer to Meyer's side to agree to do everything possible to expedite matters and get it in front of a jury. (I'm assuming this would be done in front of one?) Drop the jurisdictional stuff, waive any sort of TCPA nonsense, since both are clearly nothing but delaying tactics that Waid's side will lose, and let the whole business be decided on the facts of the matter. My sense is Meyer's side would be amenable.

I do wonder what AP would now say the calls between them and Waid were about, since they say it had nothing to do with AP not publishing Jawbreakers? ? All those text messages about breaking down in tears, etc. ?

BTW, Bleeding Fool now has an article up about this. Came to the thread to post it, but won't bother beyond a link given that I was clearly Ninja'd.
 
RodgerDodger said:
Doesn't or Didn't Mark Waid own several comic shops? Which means he has almost certainly done business with AP. Even if Diamond was the middleman. Which makes it harder and harder for his cries of deliberate ignorance to stand up.
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I think he had his hand in some but the money wasn't his?
I think this is where his title of King Baby comes from.
 
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