Richard Meyer v. Mark Waid (2018)

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Waid Livestream - What will happen?

  • Talks about the lawsuit.

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Further incriminates himself.

    Votes: 18 48.6%

  • Defames YaBoi again.

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Doesn't talk about the lawsuit nor CG.

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Host disagrees with Waid on something, chimpout insues.

    Votes: 7 18.9%

  • Normal interview. (no drama)

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • Total voters
    37
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RadicalCentrist said:
But if that motion for jurisdictional discovery results in an actual deposition though... We are speaking of a man that would have regular nervous break downs merely coming to work.
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Waid doesn't like being in situations he isn't in control of, and is known to chimp the fuck out in such a situation. That would be a costly mistake in a deposition. If you challenge the direction of the questions and refuse to answer, and there are very few grounds for doing so, and you lose a motion to compel, you automatically owe the other side's attorney fees.

You can actually win your case and end up worse than if you'd lost it by fucking around with depositions and refusing to answer questions.

The discovery dispute could end up funding the rest of the lawsuit.

Game's on.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txwd.971752/gov.uscourts.txwd.971752.17.0.pdf
 
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AnOminous said:
Meyer has wisely chosen a slow, steady and minimal approach to the suit, limiting it to the specific issues where he can obviously point to a specific amount of money as his damage, i.e. what he had to spend to move his book and self-publish it. While he has substantial cash reserves for it, he isn't going wild spending them all.

Since breaching a contract usually doesn't entitle you to punitive damages or attorney fees, he also stands to collect more from Waid than he would have by suing Antarctic, but without looking bad for suing Antarctic. They fucked up here, but they were put in an ugly situation, where either they'd get burned to the ground by Waid's lynch mob or sued by Meyer.

I don't see Meyer getting distracted by these dumb pissants.
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Could it be use to argue malice or is DMCA misuse not relevant to the tortuous interference or the defamation?

AnOminous said:
Game's on.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txwd.971752/gov.uscourts.txwd.971752.17.0.pdf
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So whats next? I assume there wont be a response from Meyers attorney until a deposition has occurred?
 
DragoonSierra said:
So whats next? I assume there wont be a response from Meyers attorney until a deposition has occurred?
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Christmas came early this year!
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Ho boy I sure hope their depositions corroborate with the (many) public statements Waid has made!

What happens next is Waid's legal team has to someone prepare him into giving sworn evidence so that: 1.) his statement doesn't contradict other evidence 2.) it exonerates his behavior 3.) doesn't cross into unethical behavior such as perjury (SUCH AS THE PERJURY THAT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED) 4.) and finally in a way so as to prevent Waid from blowing a gasket and melting down in front of hostile counsel.

Even if they attempt to dump blame on Antarctic Press (Who will be attempting to do the same in their own depositions,) that doesn't matter under Texas case law i.e Knox v Taylor.
 
Rackets had some commentary on the latest Meyer document, requesting deposition of Waid during his TUG DMCA stream today.
to about ~3.17
 
RadicalCentrist said:
Even if they attempt to dump blame on Antarctic Press (Who will be attempting to do the same in their own depositions,) that doesn't matter under Texas case law i.e Knox v Taylor.
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Antarctic Press really doesn't have much to lose here because they're not being sued and almost certainly won't be sued. They have no really good motivation to white knight for Mark Waid, who gets to be the whitest of all white knights for trying to save them from being "Nazis" by threatening to "burn them to the ground" (his own words) by publishing an apolitical book from a guy Mark Waid personally disliked.
 
AnOminous said:
Antarctic Press really doesn't have much to lose here because they're not being sued and almost certainly won't be sued. They have no really good motivation to white knight for Mark Waid, who gets to be the whitest of all white knights for trying to save them from being "Nazis" by threatening to "burn them to the ground" (his own words) by publishing an apolitical book from a guy Mark Waid personally disliked.
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You have to 8magine Antarctic Press is more than a bit resentful at being dragged into all of this. And given that giving up Jawbreakers and Iron Sights under threat of a Waid clearly was a costly business decision, you have to imagine most of that resentment is felt towards Waid. I mean all D&C did was dump a half a million in business in their lap.

Also am I being overly optimistic, or does that discovery order have an even more damaging element than the depositions. Look at the first section, “a”. The document discovery. Would that not crack open that Facebook Group? And that’s where the real fun begins.
 
AnOminous said:
They have no really good motivation to white knight for Mark Waid
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If that was true they wouldn't have cancelled the jawbreakers contract in the first place. Going against Waid is going against their entire industry. I can't imagine they're willing to commit perjury on Waid's behalf but I'm expecting they'll do everything short of that to give Waid's actions the most charitable interpretation possible.
 
Dynastia said:
If that was true they wouldn't have cancelled the jawbreakers contract in the first place. Going against Waid is going against their entire industry. I can't imagine they're willing to commit perjury on Waid's behalf but I'm expecting they'll do everything short of that to give Waid's actions the most charitable interpretation possible.
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Really? A guy who permanently ruined their reputation and who is probably the reason they'll cease to exist soon? Why would anyone ever trust them to uphold a contract again?
 
AnOminous said:
Really? A guy who permanently ruined their reputation and who is probably the reason they'll cease to exist soon? Why would anyone ever trust them to uphold a contract again?
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Really the only hope Antarctic has at this point is to slam Waid and play the part of victim. Waid has to be shown to be an extortionist of the blackest character, holding a proverbial gun to AP's head if there is to be a hope for recovery of reputation and trust. Right now the future of AP is bound to this suit and the only way out is to align themselves with the clear winner, Meyer.
 
RodgerDodger said:
Also am I being overly optimistic, or does that discovery order have an even more damaging element than the depositions. Look at the first section, “a”. The document discovery. Would that not crack open that Facebook Group? And that’s where the real fun begins.
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Considering that Antarctic Presses statement alone could make the Tort Int claim, no. Getting Waid to squeal in real time by a trained professional is going to be fun as well.

However, one thing to keep in mind about document discovery is it may say "7 document requests" but that doesn't mean 7 individual tweets. No, Meyer and co could ask for "all twatter communication, public and private, between Waid and X" and THAT would count as a single document request. Waid has to comply, on his own dime, even if the tweets are deleted (twatter saves all tweets, ever, so "deleting" is meaningless.) If Waid thinks the super lawyer is pricey now charging for his toilet tweets, he has a whole nother world of pain coming for him.
 
RadicalCentrist said:
Considering that Antarctic Presses statement alone could make the Tort Int claim, no. Getting Waid to squeal in real time by a trained professional is going to be fun as well.
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If anything, the exact opposite is going to be the problem. Mark Zaid will have to try in desperation to keep his spastic client from spewing. I imagine he'll try to eat the three hours with quibbling and bullshit like many shitlawyers of his sort but Waid will still be dumb enough to dump juicy outbursts into it, thinking he is way smarter than he is.

As tight-lipped as Byrne and Roberts have been, and as completely unconcerned with our entertainment as they are, I fear we might not see any of that fun stuff. Zaid commits some new tard spasm nearly every day, but have you seen anything out of those two other than their papers?
 
AnOminous said:
If anything, the exact opposite is going to be the problem. Mark Zaid will have to try in desperation to keep his spastic client from spewing. I imagine he'll try to eat the three hours with quibbling and bullshit like many shitlawyers of his sort but Waid will still be dumb enough to dump juicy outbursts into it, thinking he is way smarter than he is.

As tight-lipped as Byrne and Roberts have been, and as completely unconcerned with our entertainment as they are, I fear we might not see any of that fun stuff. Zaid commits some new tard spasm nearly every day, but have you seen anything out of those two other than their papers?
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I don't know a paper detailing Waid losing his shit in a completely serious and deadpan manner might be pretty entertaining
 
andr0id psycho sho(ker said:
I don't know a paper detailing Waid losing his shit in a completely serious and deadpan manner might be pretty entertaining
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Yeah we just probably won't see it. Meyer's lawyers aren't the dumbass social media sort like Zaid spewing his client's money with dumb tweets.
 
AnOminous said:
As tight-lipped as Byrne and Roberts have been, and as completely unconcerned with our entertainment as they are, I fear we might not see any of that fun stuff. Zaid commits some new tard spasm nearly every day, but have you seen anything out of those two other than their papers?
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Discovery should be public unless Zaid pulls some superlawyer garbage and gets it suppressed for w/e reason. Even so, I have a grave suspicion that the documents would end up on megaupload within a day due to tragic and unforeseen circumstances. As for staying silent, they may be professionals but they are still hired by Ya Boi.
 
Krispy Skream said:
Waid's deposition wouldn't be publically available?
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No. Unless it's actually submitted as a filing, discovery is between the parties and may not even be available to the public.

RadicalCentrist said:
As for staying silent, they may be professionals but they are still hired by Ya Boi.
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And they're protecting his interests. Any deposition of Waid will either consist of outright perjury or be incredibly damning.

I suspect that after discovery, Waid will want to settle to preserve whatever is left of his reputation.

That would involve keeping his deposition out of public view.
 
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