Richard Meyer v. Mark Waid (2018)

[AprilRains]

Antarctic Press really doesn't have much to lose here because they're not being sued and almost certainly won't be sued. They have no really good motivation to white knight for Mark Waid, who gets to be the whitest of all white knights for trying to save them from being "Nazis" by threatening to "burn them to the ground" (his own words) by publishing an apolitical book from a guy Mark Waid personally disliked.

I don't think it'd matter much even if they did try to defend Waid, at least not legally. All that matters is that the contract was breached after Waid interfered with it. Even if Atlantic Press intended to breach that contract before Waid swung his dick around, the order of events is all that matters, and that order is a matter of record already.

 

[AnOminous]

I don't think it'd matter much even if they did try to defend Waid, at least not legally. All that matters is that the contract was breached after Waid interfered with it. Even if Atlantic Press intended to breach that contract before Waid swung his dick around, the order of events is all that matters, and that order is a matter of record already.

Yes, and you've hit the important issue in the case. The elements of this cause of action don't involve anything other than the knowledge the contract existed, the interference, and the subsequent breach. And Knox v. Taylor made that very clear. It doesn't even matter if the breach was already going to happen. Dumbass Mark Waid couldn't have picked a worse place for this case to happen than Texas. Because while that seems like weird law, it's what the law is in Texas.

 

[AprilRains]

Unable to find the reference now, but I believe that in general the law disregards representations by the party that breached the contract that the defendant's conduct did not influence them. There can be all kinds of reasons that the breaching party would conceal such an influence, so in general I don't think such denials carry much weight, even outside of Texas. But I could be wrong about that.

 

[AnOminous]

Unable to find the reference now, but I believe that in general the law disregards representations by the party that breached the contract that the defendant's conduct did not influence them. There can be all kinds of reasons that the breaching party would conceal such an influence, so in general I don't think such denials carry much weight, even outside of Texas. But I could be wrong about that.

Knox v. Taylor.

This is the directly relevant case on all fours with Meyer's case against Waid to the point that it's ridiculous. It hits all these points. And yes, it's also controlling precedent.

 

[AprilRains]

Right, I know about the Texas precedent. I was wondering if the disregard for representations by the breaching party was more general.

 

[Mola Ram]

Knox v. Taylor.

This is the directly relevant case on all fours with Meyer's case against Waid to the point that it's ridiculous. It hits all these points. And yes, it's also controlling precedent.

That's bad enough, but of course let's not forget Waid went around social media and, from what I can tell, convention appearances giving his equivalent of Nicholson barking "YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THE CODE RED!" with zero comprehension he was bragging about committing an actionable tort. Because Meyer is a Nazi or something.

 

[AnOminous]

That's bad enough, but of course let's not forget Waid went around social media and, from what I can tell, convention appearances giving his equivalent of Nicholson barking "YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THE CODE RED!" with zero comprehension he was bragging about committing an actionable tort. Because Meyer is a Nazi or something.

This is why, while I love the idea of Waid doing this shit in deposition (and I mentioned it already in the thread) it isn't necessary.

This case is so moronic, in that if you were going to pick a defendant, and have them literally read out the elements of the cause of action, then publicly commit them, then publicly say "I just committed every single element of this cause of action!" you couldn't have a better defendant than Waid.

Also while I should point that Knox v. Taylor is so hilariously directly on point to the current case, you don't need it. Waid's behavior is so textbook tortious interference I would not be surprised to see it literally end up in a textbook.

 

[Krispy Skream]

As much as I pay the State of Texas throughout the year, I feel like I should be on a high enough subscriber tier to get the bonus materials.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Once the extent of Waid’s shady shakedown of Antarctic Press becomes a matter of record, and is more deeply explored via Meyer’s discovery, is it possible or likely that Antarctic Press might turn around and take action against Waid as well?

 

[AnOminous]

Once the extent of Waid’s shady shakedown of Antarctic Press becomes a matter of record, and is more deeply explored via Meyer’s discovery, is it possible or likely that Antarctic Press might turn around and take action against Waid as well?

They're not liable for anything so why would they? The more likely scenario, that would be hilarious, is if Waid loses and sues AP himself, claiming the damages he caused should be set off by the fact that it was actually AP who breached the contract.

 

[Mola Ram]

They're not liable for anything so why would they? The more likely scenario, that would be hilarious, is if Waid loses and sues AP himself, claiming the damages he caused should be set off by the fact that it was actually AP who breached the contract.

Can you actually sue someone for damages when you're the one who induced the breach?

 

[Krispy Skream]

If you can sue Taylor Swift for not being your girlfriend. . .

 

[AnOminous]

Can you actually sue someone for damages when you're the one who induced the breach?

You can do a lot of dumb shit.

 

[AprilRains]

You can sue anyone for anything. Not getting it tossed out at pretrial with prejudice, now, that's harder.

 

[kcbbq]

You can sue anyone for anything. Not getting it tossed out at pretrial with prejudice, now, that's harder.

I should sue Waid if he unhinged his jaw and swallowed his pride and offers to settle and Meyer, for some reason, accepts. He'd be getting in the way of my pursuit of happiness and that's un-American, damn it.

 

[Love Soze]

I'm catching up on Rackets' live stream from yesterday and noticed this exchange in the chat between sysrestrpx and Heather C:

Anyone have any info on this? A recording of the call would be amazing. I don't suppose anyone has an 'in' with Joe's Facebook? It was locked down when I checked.

EDIT: Added attachments.

Spoiler

 

[Least Concern]

Pressing X. Why would Antarctic have recorded that call? Do they record all incoming calls just in case? That sounds odd.

But if such a recording does exist, then just like the phantom 911 call tape (remember that?), I sure as hell want to hear it.

Also, Landonime, your schtick stopped being funny a long time ago. Jesus.

 

[AnOminous]

Pressing X. Why would Antarctic have recorded that call? Do they record all incoming calls just in case? That sounds odd.

Lots of places record every single incoming call. Because there are these lolsuit things that happen. It can be really helpful to have a recording when some other guy starts lying.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Pressing X. Why would Antarctic have recorded that call? Do they record all incoming calls just in case? That sounds odd.

But if such a recording does exist, then just like the phantom 911 call tape (remember that?), I sure as hell want to hear it.

Also, Landonime, your schtick stopped being funny a long time ago. Jesus.

The 911 call isn’t a Phantom. We have seen actual LE civil records that the call occurred. And even a dispatch description involving Waid. Enough to give the lady the benefit of the doubt. The only thing we lack is the actual voice recording, which was likely not preserved or not archived in a searchable manner by the 911 center.

 

[Done]

I'm catching up on Rackets' live stream from yesterday and noticed this exchange in the chat between sysrestrpx and Heather C:

Anyone have any info on this? A recording of the call would be amazing. I don't suppose anyone has an 'in' with Joe's Facebook? It was locked down when I checked.

Dude, can you please upload those chat logs manually? They don't show up except in quotes.

It's not your fault, Imgur has us blocked IIRC.

Thanks.