Richard Meyer v. Mark Waid (2018)

[RodgerDodger]

I'm fairly certain Waid actively threatened them with the sort of repercussions that would completely destroy their business, invoking Marvel and anyone else he could, to intimidate them out of publishing the comic. Wouldn't surprise me if he also claimed things like Jawbreakers wouldn't succeed and/or that he and his friends would make sure Meyer was going to be driven out of the industry as well. So while they clearly made the wrong decision, I'm certain - and I think the lawsuit will demonstrate - that Waid threatened them with his influence and claims of power within or over Marvel, as well as all his other well-known friends. So I'm still sympathetic to AP because I'm sure they were given the choice between an entire industry and one guy with crowdfunding, rather than just 'cash vs. manbaby'.

Yellow Flash video about Ben Dunn yesterday. Talking about the TUG / Ben DMs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvrQ0_MH_vM

Again, remember that AP is supposedly staying afloat in part because Marvel is renting out space in AP's studio to let their colorists working in Texas work at the AP studio rather than having to build / rent out their own studio.

That's the "friends at Marvel" that Ben was afraid of the future of.

I'm calling it now. Mark Waid threatened the colorists that worked for Marvel that use AP's studio with retribution if AP didn't pull the Richard Meyer contract.


As an aside... This is Ben Dunn's latest tweet.
If Waid hopes that Ben Dunn will tow the SJW line and help Waid get out of the bear trap he put his dick in... he might be in for a shock. Ben appears to be Conservative.

That bit from TUG’s conversation with Ben Dunn May turn out to be the most important part of the case. And the part that blows things wide open. Meyer needs to get Ben and Joe Dunn back under oath as soon as possible.

What exactly where their fears regarding “friends” and Marvel, that only came up after the call from “Marvel’s Mark Waid”? That isn’t some thing that you just dream up. Marvel was not part of anybodies calculus until “Marvel’s Mark Waid” called. Then suddenly the Dunn’s perceived a threat to the current and future work contracts with Marvel, for colleagues that had any business association with AP if they were to publish Meyer’s Book. Marvel was brought into the equation and used as an element of the threat. Authorized or not Waid was, at least to the impression of the dunn’s, acting as an agent of Marvel. Now that’s all something that has to be investigated further. Like I said, the Dunn’s need to be put under oath. But there are enough stories out there that would seem to add the appearance of legitimacy to the hypothesis. We’ve heard rumors of at least one Marvel Editor/Manager pressuring contractors to donate to Waid’s GFM legal fund. If true that adds a disturbing impression of some degree of sanction or approval of Waid’s actions.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

New JSG video on the lawsuit.

My big takeaway was the emails (idiodically submitted by WAID'S OWN LEGAL TEAM, no less) shown at 18:20 that basically confirms the publishers felt bullied into breaking the contract.
Seriously, how the fuck does Waid think he has a case here? Anyone with half a brain would see this shit and immediately find that Waid was in the wrong.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

Calling it.
Waid and Zaid get arrested for trying to kill meyer somehow.

 

[RodgerDodger]

New Danphan29 take on TUG’s reveals from AP.

 

[AnOminous]

And that is why my heart doesn't hurt reading his cowardly cucking and pissing away a golden business opportunity.

Let their fate be an example of what not to do.

Except they weren't staying afloat. Joe dumped $70k to keep the lights on recently. This myth that Marvel was their only chance to stay in the business is false.

Anything that has to have $70k dumped into it just to continue to exist at all is going away eventually. One day it will just no longer be fun, maybe because of dealing with screaming manbabies like Mark Waid, but it's going away.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Let their fate be an example of what not to do.



Anything that has to have $70k dumped into it just to continue to exist at all is going away eventually. One day it will just no longer be fun, maybe because of dealing with screaming manbabies like Mark Waid, but it's going away.

It’s a hobby business. Run by a family that is otherwise successful and wealthy in their day jobs. They will only keep dumping money into it if they get something out of it. If not profit, at least satisfaction and fun. And I am pretty sure the Dunn brothers realize what that decision cost them. Meyer and the Jawbreakers IP are hated by the people that don’t buy AP’s books. On top of that Jawbreakers is a property that is almost perfect to license to a similar B list film studio. It’s the sort of comic property that a group such as Blumhouse could easily spin into a fairly low cost big return action adventure with which to broaden their portfolio. Complete with a built in “see the movie the media doesn’t want you to see” advertising tag line. These idiots left a ton of money on the table, then set it on fire because a man called “Big Baby” yelled at them. I’m thinking it’s not as much fun anymore.

 

[AnOminous]

These idiots left a ton of money on the table, then set it on fire because a man called “Big Baby” yelled at them. I’m thinking it’s not as much fun anymore.

If you read that email rant from Joeming Dunn, it's obvious he knew he was being bullied into doing something wrong and was angry about it. Now, the fact that he utterly cucked out of what he knew was right has to sting, and it's public. And not just that he cucked out, but that he did it to a pathetic little worm of a man like Mark Waid. Imagine this guy being your bully, a pathetic piece of shit screaming, crying baby of a marshmallow man like Mark Waid, solely because of his position at Marvel.

He must want to crawl off in shame because he'll never wash that off.

 

[RodgerDodger]

If you read that email rant from Joeming Dunn, it's obvious he knew he was being bullied into doing something wrong and was angry about it. Now, the fact that he utterly cucked out of what he knew was right has to sting, and it's public. And not just that he cucked out, but that he did it to a pathetic little worm of a man like Mark Waid. Imagine this guy being your bully, a pathetic piece of shit screaming, crying baby of a marshmallow man like Mark Waid, solely because of his position at Marvel.

He must want to crawl off in shame because he'll never wash that off.

Based on what TUG revealed from his conversations for Ben Dunn, I do feel a bit more for Joe. It wasn’t simply that he was being bullied by Big Baby. But that there was a clear threat to those that worked with AP. Joe is a successful physician. Ben similar. None of Waid’s threats would impact the Dunn’s ability to put food on the table. But the artists and creatives associated with them? Being blacklisted by Marvel would bring hardship. It’s a fucking rotten thing to do to someone, (which is why it’s illegal). Waid really needs to feel some true financial pain. And boy oh boy, wouldn’t it be nice to ask a few pointed questions under oath of Tom Brevoort and Joe Quesada? (Starting with “what is your exact relationship with the Blue Whale?”)

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

If you read that email rant from Joeming Dunn, it's obvious he knew he was being bullied into doing something wrong and was angry about it. Now, the fact that he utterly cucked out of what he knew was right has to sting, and it's public. And not just that he cucked out, but that he did it to a pathetic little worm of a man like Mark Waid. Imagine this guy being your bully, a pathetic piece of shit screaming, crying baby of a marshmallow man like Mark Waid, solely because of his position at Marvel.

He must want to crawl off in shame because he'll never wash that off.

If he was smart, he'd sell the business to ben, then just full on enflame mark, even though he admits to perjury.

if nothing else, it immolates mark's defense and changes nothing for meyers.

 

[Jub-Jub]

Meyer's talked about the lawsuit again

 

[KingofNothing]

I took a look at the warchests since it's been about a week since this shit dropped and Zack has gotten an extra $6k roughly. Waid with all of his grandstanding has gotten a whopping amount of ..$60. Look at all that support you got Waid. The pros and fans sure got your back.

edit: @break these cuffs Yes I did, thanks for pointing that out

 

[break these cuffs]

I took a look at the warchests since it's been about a week since this shit dropped and Zack has gotten an extra $6 roughly. Waid with all of his grandstanding has gotten a whopping amount of ..$60. Look at all that support you got Waid. The pros and fans sure got your back.

I hope you meant $6k.

 

[ObeseScreamingBlackMan]

I hope when this is all said and done, somebody on Meyers side sneaks up behind Waid in a dark parking lot and gives him the biggest atomic wedgie in the history of wedgies.

It’s exactly what a sniveling little nerd fag like Waid deserves.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I hope when this is all said and done, somebody on Meyers side sneaks up behind Waid in a dark parking lot and gives him the biggest atomic wedgie in the history of wedgies.

It’s exactly what a sniveling little nerd fag like Waid deserves.

To be fair, didn't Waid get the online version of that last year? Showed up on some random comic forum, and attacked someone for calling a spade a spade in relations to Kelly Sue DeConnick being a bad writer? And said geek, rather than taking it lying down, went full nuclear on Waid and all of his various bad behavior and hurt Waid so badly, he immediately screamed like a bitch to have the guy (a longtime poster on the forum) banned because Waid's fee-fees were hurt?

 

[Stoneheart]

But the artists and creatives associated with them? Being blacklisted by Marvel would bring hardship.

Just frame it the right way and all those bug people will buy it just to spite the Baizuo.

 

[LL 196]

TheFuzzyViking on Twitter: "As I have mentioned before, I have some r…

archived 27 Apr 2019 09:58:14 UTC

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Spicy. Ty Beard said insiders started leaking like a sieve once the #vickicksback lawsuit was filed. I suspect that there are people who really hate Mark Waid in the comics industry who are willing to leak if this thing starts going downhill. Especially since Waid's claim to fame was "writing" Kingdom Come when it was mostly Alex Ross. Waid's reputation precedes him and it's looking more and more likely that he lied under oath while dragging Marvel/Disney into this lawsuit.

 

[damian]

OOF, remember how Waid said he wouldn’t delete comments from the Nazis on his GFM? Surprise! He lied:

TheFuzzyViking on Twitter: "As I have mentioned before, I have some r…

archived 27 Apr 2019 09:58:14 UTC

archive.fo

Spicy. Ty Beard said insiders started leaking like a sieve once the #vickicksback lawsuit was filed. I suspect that there are people who really hate Mark Waid in the comics industry who are willing to leak if this thing starts going downhill. Especially since Waid's claim to fame was "writing" Kingdom Come when it was mostly Alex Ross. Waid's reputation precedes him and it's looking more and more likely that he lied under oath while dragging Marvel/Disney into this lawsuit.

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Mama Mia that’s a spicy!

 

[Stoneheart]

Mama Mia that’s a spicy!

im pretty sure you did some gay ops there! stop posting about his head fur.

 

[Comicsgeist]

Waid could probably get Neil Gaiman to bail him out. Both to further Gaiman's SJW street cred (since Gaiman is now officially part of the SJW Hollywood crowd, complete with having the Simpsons production staff on speed-dial as far as being able to write for them whenever he feels like it) and because Gaiman's a true kool aid drinking believer who thinks Waid is innocent and would be his sugar daddy to bail him out just to spite his critics and be "praised" for "standing up to hate" in the public eye and now has started making mad Hollywood money that he could probably afford to bail Waid out and miss it in his bank account.

Late response I know, but I was wondering who might bail out the manbaby and change his nappy for him, I'm guessing it won't be Gaiman (Though I'd like to know who made the 10 grand anonymous donation).
Gaiman may be worth an estimated 16 million, but scanning down the contributors....

250 bucks! Nope, it definitely won't be Gaiman.


Since making his latest appeal for donations to his gofundme Waid has raised a staggering .......$105 bucks so far.

 

[Water-T]

Since making his latest appeal for donations to his gofundme Waid has raised a staggering .......$105 bucks so far.

Anyone with half a brain can look at those DMs between Waid and Dunn, and see that Waid's case is fucked. So they're just throwing a pittance and some asspats online to let the other NPCs know they're still drinking the Kool-Aid.