Resident Evil - Virgin Vampire Wine Mom vs Chad Magnetic Lebowski

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After finishing 4demake i decided to do another run of the OG 4 for shits and giggles
Im astonished that they got rid of a bunch of arenas and had forgotten how hard remake tries to penalize you for fighting, meanwhile the original rewards you and even encourages you to go full hollywood
Hell, im surprised at the amount of enemies that would attack you in the original compared to the shitty we can only display 6 enemies at a time in remake
 
The handsome tard said:
I kind of hate how some people are kind obssessed with this remake to the point they gotta constantly compare, decry and deminish the original in whatever way they can to say "Oh, the remake does "X" so much better!"

The original seems to be going from one of the most praised games of all time to one of the most shat on. I wonder if this isnt mostly with the younger crowd since most of them since to act rather childishly against any sort of argument for the original over the remake (but then again, being a childish moron online isnt exclusive to kids). And they obviously probably see "old=bad"

Recently I have seen one "praising" the lack of the ballistics line because it was "boring dialogue" or "they love sex jokes cuz they dont get any".

I dont know, I find it hard to imagine that the remake will as lasting within culture as the original. Its kind of like Half life with Black Mesa in a way, sure, the latter may be the technically "superior" game but the original is simply too iconic and a legit stepping stone in gaming history to ever "replace" it. Black Mesa works best as a companion piece to the original and as a love letter from the fans. I see the RE 4 remake as the same thing, there is a lot of love in it but it cant just beat the original in terms of significance in the video game landscape.

Hopefully thats all temporary and eventually we can all at least agree to disagree. Or maybe not, we are talking about maturity among them after all.
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As a Zoomer this furthers my point that my generation vidya opinions is retarded and Shouldn't be trusted.
 
The handsome tard said:
I kind of hate how some people are kind obssessed with this remake to the point they gotta constantly compare, decry and deminish the original in whatever way they can to say "Oh, the remake does "X" so much better!"

The original seems to be going from one of the most praised games of all time to one of the most shat on. I wonder if this isnt mostly with the younger crowd since most of them since to act rather childishly against any sort of argument for the original over the remake (but then again, being a childish moron online isnt exclusive to kids). And they obviously probably see "old=bad"

Recently I have seen one "praising" the lack of the ballistics line because it was "boring dialogue" or "they love sex jokes cuz they dont get any".

I dont know, I find it hard to imagine that the remake will as lasting within culture as the original. Its kind of like Half life with Black Mesa in a way, sure, the latter may be the technically "superior" game but the original is simply too iconic and a legit stepping stone in gaming history to ever "replace" it. Black Mesa works best as a companion piece to the original and as a love letter from the fans. I see the RE 4 remake as the same thing, there is a lot of love in it but it cant just beat the original in terms of significance in the video game landscape.

Hopefully thats all temporary and eventually we can all at least agree to disagree. Or maybe not, we are talking about maturity among them after all.
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If 4make doesn't get any GOTY nominations you will see retarded zoomers cry to hell and back. I kinda want TotK, FF16 and some other shit to be fucking amazing just so 4make can get shafted in the awards this year. Not because I think it sucks or is bad, but because discourse around it has gotten so annoying.
 
huecoffs02 said:
If 4make doesn't get any GOTY nominations you will see retarded zoomers cry to hell and back. I kinda want TotK, FF16 and some other shit to be fucking amazing just so 4make can get shafted in the awards this year. Not because I think it sucks or is bad, but because discourse around it has gotten so annoying.
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Eh, I wouldnt go that far, just wished that newbie and veteran fans could shake hands and be glad both versions of the game are great and not reduce into petty internet slap fights over just daring to have an opinion.

Nobunaga said:
After finishing 4demake i decided to do another run of the OG 4 for shits and giggles
Im astonished that they got rid of a bunch of arenas and had forgotten how hard remake tries to penalize you for fighting, meanwhile the original rewards you and even encourages you to go full hollywood
Hell, im surprised at the amount of enemies that would attack you in the original compared to the shitty we can only display 6 enemies at a time in remake
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I knew that something was bothering me and I just couldnt put my finger on. OG RE 4 legit almost seems to motivate you to take a riskier style, usually "herding" enemeis into groups so a well delivered grenade will deal with them or a roundhouse that strikes multiple of them at once.

The remake motivates you to play it more safe, which is fine, but the OG style tied better to the more over the top movements that the entry had gone for.
Armor King said:
See that Crowbcat? The original creator of RE4 enjoyed it. You can enjoy a video game like a normal person without having a retard panic attack because Ashleys farts are one decibel below the normal standard.
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"How dare he have a subjective opinion that I not personally agree with?" :woo: :woo: :woo:
SSj_Ness said:
So I'll probably try RE2R soon. Any tips? I'm pretty shit at action games like this, should I play on the easiest settings to save myself the headache?
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How about you play on the hardest possible difficulty LIKE A REEEAL GAMER ™️ ?! :jacepout:

Im obviously being sarcastic, play on whatever you feel like. My suggestion is you try normal first and, if you arent enjoying it, switch to easy.
 
The handsome tard said:
I knew that something was bothering me and I just couldnt put my finger on. OG RE 4 legit almost seems to motivate you to take a riskier style, usually "herding" enemeis into groups so a well delivered grenade will deal with them or a roundhouse that strikes multiple of them at once.

The remake motivates you to play it more safe, which is fine, but the OG style tied better to the more over the top movements that the entry had gone for.
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You can really notice this in the village or mercenaries, in the OG you get overwhelmed hard and real fast and its common to see 15+ enemies, forcing you to keep moving or herd the enemies so you can kill the entire group, in the demake the limit of enemies that can spawn on the map seems to be 8 or 9, which is really noticeable in mercenaries
 
Nobunaga said:
You can really notice this in the village or mercenaries, in the OG you get overwhelmed hard and real fast and its common to see 15+ enemies, forcing you to keep moving or herd the enemies so you can kill the entire group, in the demake the limit of enemies that can spawn on the map seems to be 8 or 9, which is really noticeable in mercenaries
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I think the most ganados you could get in the original most ot the time was 10, you could get more in some areas like in the castle with the upside down statues where there are 10 cultists and 1 red zealot. If I remember correctly the only instance you could get more than 10 consistently was Waterworld because of how the spawns work, other than that the normal is 10 IIRC but maybe with the hd patches and stuff they increased the number. Don't know about the remake tho.
 
I'm still not impressed by this remake. It has stuff I enjoy, the combat is good even if I don't like the parry system making the game easier and feeling more like a mechanic that's abused, but that's just my thought. I detest a lot of the changes in the remake, Krauser constantly fagging out for Leon to kill him and "finish the training" felt out of place and annoying as hell. The had 1 interesting point Krasuer made about how he never knew a damn thing before encountering BOWS and realized how you need this power to survive now.

Could have had him mocking Leon for not being able to save people in raccoon city because he lacked this power and how humanity has lost is place in the food chain and are nothing more than prey , something more than 'COME ON, RO-O-O-KIE!"

Characters talking shit during the fights lost its charm in RE3 due to Nicole Tompkins awfully shrill performance as the new Jill Valentine sounding more like a chihuahua barking at a pitbull. This is why people hate Chihuahuas.
But again, its the writing in this game that manages to be worse than the original in that it takes away the character, however silly it was, from the original and then replaces it with bland mundane stuff. Story moments feel less grand, less immersive and less interesting.

The Salazar boss fight in this game vs the original is oddly boring and "normal". In the original Leon arrives after the ritual and Salazar mocks him and realizes he's gotta kill Leon with Verdugo no.2 and they merge into the giant googly eye monster.

The new version they show the ritual itself...which is just drinking blood and ends with Krauser carrying Ashley away as the big door shuts and then Salazar gets angry at Leon for shooting him a few times and mutates into a giant cock with a snapping jaw and talks shit while you shoot him up and he spews jizz on you.

For everything that they got right in the village sequence of the game, other parts dont feel right. But contemporary audiences will appreciate it more than me cause if its new its automatically good and makes me sad cause that weird ass charm the original games they used to have is just discarded for the popular AAA studio faggotry of the moment.
 
Nobunaga said:
After finishing 4demake i decided to do another run of the OG 4 for shits and giggles
Im astonished that they got rid of a bunch of arenas and had forgotten how hard remake tries to penalize you for fighting, meanwhile the original rewards you and even encourages you to go full hollywood
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And the dialogue was suitably hollywood. All of Leon's classic one liners, and the low key references to the ill-fated Bush era "War on Terror". It was more 80's than anything, right down to the armed-to-the-teeth protag and mostly defenseless big titty heroine. Action schlock tastes best with some corn and gore and self awareness.
 
kadoink said:
The had 1 interesting point Krasuer made about how he never knew a damn thing before encountering BOWS and realized how you need this power to survive now.
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That's not original to the remake, even. That sentiment is ripped straight off the Krauser chapters of DSC.

kadoink said:
Krauser carrying Ashley away as the big door shuts
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They showed us Krauser's phat ass while he does it, though. So the remake gets 1 point in the Krauser Department.
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umami's milk said:
That's not original to the remake, even. That sentiment is ripped straight off the Krauser chapters of DSC.
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People really don't appreciate how good that game was at expanding the universe and characters, Krauser is one of them. They literally put a mic on his brain during the final fight where he realized the wound he just got means his professional career is over so he would need to harness the power of the BOWS for himself.

The game didn't need to frame itself as a RE4 prequel with Re2 and code veronica retelling as flashbacks but it did and I love it for it.

The umbrella chronicles does expand on umbrella's fall mentioned in 4's opening and the menu kind of seems like you are "investigating" these cases with the characters and guns being shown in photographs. It even serves to sort of explain why some things are different because you are seeing how "the detective" is piecing things together into something easier to follow (thus why he places chris and jill together in the same story) .It was all just really creative.

The game even ends by also explaining how Wesker acquired his mastermind position and it even sets up his desire to meet Spencer and his last lines "I will write for this world" already foreshadow his God complex in RE5.

Both entries felt kind of a celebration of these games. I almost dare call them essential companion pieces that every newcomer marathoning the series should play.
 
The handsome tard said:
I kind of hate how some people are kind obssessed with this remake to the point they gotta constantly compare, decry and deminish the original in whatever way they can to say "Oh, the remake does "X" so much better!"

The original seems to be going from one of the most praised games of all time to one of the most shat on. I wonder if this isnt mostly with the younger crowd since most of them since to act rather childishly against any sort of argument for the original over the remake (but then again, being a childish moron online isnt exclusive to kids). And they obviously probably see "old=bad"

Recently I have seen one "praising" the lack of the ballistics line because it was "boring dialogue" or "they love sex jokes cuz they dont get any".

I dont know, I find it hard to imagine that the remake will as lasting within culture as the original. Its kind of like Half life with Black Mesa in a way, sure, the latter may be the technically "superior" game but the original is simply too iconic and a legit stepping stone in gaming history to ever "replace" it. Black Mesa works best as a companion piece to the original and as a love letter from the fans. I see the RE 4 remake as the same thing, there is a lot of love in it but it cant just beat the original in terms of significance in the video game landscape.

Hopefully thats all temporary and eventually we can all at least agree to disagree. Or maybe not, we are talking about maturity among them after all.
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Anecdotally, of course, I didn't see really any of that until the crowbcat video came out and the DEmake stuff went all out. Remember that 75% of it is also shitposting on both sides. The reverse of zoomers thinking everything old is bad are the retards who to this day seem to be mindbroken about the remake to the point they're unwilling to even admit that it's good. Both are great games, the remake probably isn't going to be as influential as the original but the fact that people are arguing about some nebulous unquantifiable concept of soul means that the new one is at least a fun and competently made game.
 
I'm like 95% sure RE5 will be written off as non canon with the whole black mold/Blue Umbrella thing being the new canon going forward.

It's just too problematic in le current year. You can't even say a black guy who shot a toddler in cold blood is a bad person without being called racist so there's no fucking way they'll greenlight a game where you play as a white guy and gun down thousands of them while making action movie quips.
 
The handsome tard said:
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Okay, it's official, I don't like where this fanbase is heading towards :stress:
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This poll is loaded. They didn't even give Classic Jill a chance. She's most recognizable as Julia Voth and if they'd presented her as such she may have done better.
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Sniperwoof said:
I'm like 95% sure RE5 will be written off as non canon with the whole black mold/Blue Umbrella thing being the new canon going forward.

It's just too problematic in le current year. You can't even say a black guy who shot a toddler in cold blood is a bad person without being called racist so there's no fucking way they'll greenlight a game where you play as a white guy and gun down thousands of them while making action movie quips.
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If they have you play as only Sheva with Chris as an unplayable AI partner they might be able to get away with it, but I doubt that RE5 will be remade at all. It's still too modern and it's more alike today's remakes than any of the franchise's previous entries.
 
umami's milk said:
If they have you play as only Sheva with Chris as an unplayable AI partner they might be able to get away with it, but I doubt that RE5 will be remade at all. It's still too modern and it's more alike today's remakes than any of the franchise's previous entries.
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Dead Space got a remake and that was also a PS3 era game. I agree with ya but I wouldnt exactly say its impossible neither. If Capcom believes it will sell (and believe me, after RE4 remake made them a shit ton of cash...), they will do it. And given how westernized Capcom mostly is at this point, I doubt that it wont be "adapted to modern sensibilities".
HeyYou said:
Lmao they literally made Ashley less spoiled and gave her a little character arc about becoming more proactive but since she's not a girlboss and Leon is still, you know, rescuing her, apparently she has no personality. You know it's bad when even Kotaku's comments are calling it bad.
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While I think that remake Ashley is far from perfect as well, I wouldnt exactly say she is a step backwards. Its just a different take on the character that still mostly maintains who she was.

Thing is, Ashley was never meant to be much beyond some bimbo Leon rescues, thats what people need to accept. Even in the remake, of course there wont be much to her because she was never meant to.
umami's milk said:
This poll is loaded. They didn't even give Classic Jill a chance. She's most recognizable as Julia Voth and if they'd presented her as such she may have done better.
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Eh, I personally doubt it would have changed much.

I guess the harsh truth is that most veterans of the series have kind of grown up and moved on from it for the most part, leaving mostly newcomers who of course are going to lean towards the remake because it is the more accessable version and because little shits will always prefer "cool" new over "dumb" old.
 
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