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[Hybrid Icing]

The thumbnail makes it look like Jay and Rich hated the movie way more than they actually did.

Shit, I thought they enjoyed it! But it was actually hard to tell from the review, it was all over the place and they didn't really give a bottom line recommendation (or not).

 

[dissociating]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wsfMBCikvno

Watching this felt like the equivalent of having a psychotic episode. That's the best way to describe it.

 

[sneedem&feedem]

Nah. Jay's becoming a giant faggot nowadays. Mike is just a pussy that's afraid of his audience, and Rich is just... there. The quality of their content has dipped considerably, and I don't think any of them have the heart to do what they used to love anymore. I honestly think it's time to Old Yeller RLM.

I wouldn't go that far but it seems like Jay is a lot more dismissive for lack of a better word. There's a line where they're going over the "birthright citizenship" crap he says something along the lines of he doesn't understand how people can get mad a certain interpretations. That on its face is such a stupid observation. "They've already done all this stupid shit people don't like so people just have to eat it if they do it in a movie which will color public perception for years." Never mind the fact that it's never, "people disliked this angle or interpretation", no, it's always people are mad or they're manbabies for caring about stuff. There was that tranny horror movie a while back that they liked and his whole defense for it was that it was a great interpretation for trannies or whatever. Mike had to eat some humble pie when he threw a jab at people like Star Wars Theory for caring about Star Wars when he cares deeply for Star Trek and he has gotten legitimately better about this. But Jay hasn't gotten past his ironic detachment phase despite being well into his 40s.

As a side note, remove all current or past politics but Superman has never been an immigrant *story*. All the beats that the central story follows are not an immigrant story. That's something like Scarface where it's a literal immigrant fresh off the boat trying to make a name for himself in a new land. Superman always arrives as a baby and is raised on earth (don't try to name me any Elseworlds crap that doesn't ever get adapted). Whenever they cover Supes' childhood, it's always a classic coming of age story. It's such a clear and obvious political angle at something contrary to basic bitch storytelling seen in the Superman mythos that it should be called out.

 

[ShiftyBoi]

They really are becoming giant faggots. I get so annoyed when they are just criticizing what other people said or think about it instead of acctually talking about the movie.

Modern Mike wouldn't have the balls to talk about "the urban market"

Its not even that they have to censor themselves for youtube, the patreon is the majority of their income. They could just host their videos on their own site where they get 100% of the ad revenue. They are just giant faggots that say nothing and waste time.

This feels like it would have been better as a "scientist man" episode. Because this one is very similar to what they did for Minecraft and the death of theaters, where the movie isn't the interesting part, they don't care, what they care about is the audience's reaction and what that says about the movie going public nowadays. I wish they would bring scientist man back, he was very succinct and funny.

Like it or not, the people smearing this movie for being pro-immigration or woke or whatever are putting its name in the headlines, they're doing promotion for it and that's what studios like. So we get bait articles that play up how big the message actually was, which is why they showed that pro-immigration article with a fart sound effect. It's the same thing that happened with Ghostbusters, none of it really matters because there will be a new interpretation of superman that everyone will hate in 10 years. The culture war is nothing but consumption and fighting over consumption, it doesn't really matter end of the day.

As a side note, remove all current or past politics but Superman has never been an immigrant *story*. All the beats that the central story follows are not an immigrant story. That's something like Scarface where it's a literal immigrant fresh off the boat trying to make a name for himself in a new land. Superman always arrives as a baby and is raised on earth (don't try to name me any Elseworlds crap that doesn't ever get adapted). Whenever they cover Supes' childhood, it's always a classic coming of age story. It's such a clear and obvious political angle at something contrary to basic bitch storytelling seen in the Superman mythos that it should be called out.

This is true but it's also true that someone who feels like an outsider will probably relate to Superman, an alien, growing up not understanding who he really is. It's such a basic blank slate story that you could apply almost fucking anything to it. People project what they wanna see and then make it about that. It's the same thing with X-Men, it's about race or it's about being gay or it's about being an immigrant. It's such a basic retarded metaphor that it could be anything.

Like if I wanted to I could say Superman is actually a metaphor for menstruation. I mean think about it, he doesn't discover his powers until he's matured, he always has to wear a long flowing red cape, his secret identity gets in the way of his job at the daily planet, and he even spurts red energy at his enemies! Does that sound retarded? Course it does, but the idea is so simple you can apply nearly anything to it.

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

They could stop censoring their videos. There are a lot of words that will get your video flagged. They have to go through the video with a fine comb. It really ruins the process.
They edit the video and then let some shmuck go though it and make an edit that wont get them in trouble with youtube.
Have some ads on the site itself that dont interfere with the video so people would want to see it there instead of the shithole that youtube is becoming. I genuinely don't know how people can use it without adblock
Everyone wins, except youtube, that they can still use to get new viewers that they funnel to their own site.

Still not worth it. They can remain good boys, not use no-no words and be fine. It's not like they're talking about anything else other than movies. Hosting your own site is a lot of work and money. Youtube is free.

Can you even name a single self hosted non-porn site with hundreds of long form 1080p videos and an embedded player? I spent my whole life in front of a goddamn monitor and I can't think of any. RLM used to have their own site with blip.tv links when they were starting but even then the videos were not on their server.

I agree that Youtube is garbage and still doesn't have a serious competitor. I hate to be blackpilled, but it doesn't look like this is going to change anytime soon. Maybe ever. Everything's extremely centralized and regulated.

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

You guys are sneeding over this review being too safe, meanwhile everyone on the comments and the RLM sub is pissing and shitting themselves that Jay said the film's political jabs were exhausting and that they felt that the movie was uninteresting

 

[ddlloo]

You guys are sneeding over this review being too safe, meanwhile everyone on the comments and the RLM sub is pissing and shitting themselves that Jay said the film's political jabs were exhausting and that they felt that the movie was uninteresting

>They didn't explicitly endorse my specific political beliefs so they are hack/frauds/woke/racists/cowards/lazy/fascists
It's all so tiring, isn't it?

 

[frozen_runner]

Every thread on the Farms that's about a YouTuber or movie eventually becomes filled with a self-selecting group of bitter once-fans who just circle-jerk about how much they've come to hate the subject of the thread.

Interesting and unexpected takes, everyone. See you next week!

BTW, the movie looks mid as fuck.

 

[Slur Generator]

Every thread on the Farms that's about a YouTuber or movie eventually becomes filled with a self-selecting group of bitter once-fans who just circle-jerk about how much they've come to hate the subject of the thread.

Interesting and unexpected takes, everyone. See you next week!

BTW, the movie looks mid as fuck.

They lost their touch. Their viewcount is declining and they get less views than critical drinker because he at least says something even if he's an actual grifter.

They don't make any points or jokes. Very low energy and lack any sort of interest.
They are just going through the motions.

If they don't want to cover shitty movies than just get some guests and do a trivia gameshow. Recently those were the only ones where they seam to be enjoying themselves.
Miserable Mike the character was funny, real miserable Mike is boring and annoying.

 

[strumpets exeunt]

You guys are sneeding over this review being too safe, meanwhile everyone on the comments and the RLM sub is pissing and shitting themselves that Jay said the film's political jabs were exhausting and that they felt that the movie was uninteresting

 

[Pagan Min]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wsfMBCikvno

I tried to watch it, but turned it off after Jay's "comedic" synopsis railing away about those terminally-online manbabies having a civil war. When he said that, all I heard was "WAAAAHH!!! You guys can't have opinions about movies without US telling you what to think! What do you think you're doing??? Idolize us like you used to, plebs!!!"

 

[That Chris Guy]

Hasn't The Black Void always been for a high profile release they saw opening weekend? I can't remember how quickly they released the Snyder Cut episode, but both the Star Wars ones were within days of the premiere. I think it correlating to soul crushing more developments is more an amusing coincidence than an intent of the format.
Interested to hear the movie itself isn't as political as Gunn got in promoting it. It's sometimes hard to filter out how much the pre-release controversy made it into the actual movie vs. internet slapfights being internet slapfights. If anyone ITT has seen it, does it have the more balanced Gunn-isms in line with the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie/Suicide Squad, or is it a little more excessive the way Guardians 3 was? Might give it a shot, based off their discussion here.

I think it was on a scale of average to shit, but I didn't hate Man of Steel either so take from that what you will.

If you don't care that much about Superman and just want to see a James Gunn film with lots of pretty lights and CG that will look like ass in a few years, you'll love it. Think Aquaman.

 

[Harvey Danger]

This is true but it's also true that someone who feels like an outsider will probably relate to Superman, an alien, growing up not understanding who he really is. It's such a basic blank slate story that you could apply almost fucking anything to it. People project what they wanna see and then make it about that.

Rich and Mike were making this point pretty well. Superman was literally the template for superheroes, before the concept was built on by later characters. That means he's a broad archetype, not by design, but by breaking new ground in character ideas. Then over the last 87 years that template got applied to a lot of different writers' ideas.

I liked this HitB, because the guys went into the character and why you should or shouldn't assign your own personal template to a character. Rich pushing back on Zach Snyder's "Jesus story" because Superman is a "Moses story" is on point, but you could've have made the same point about it not being an immigrant story either. It certainly wasn't emphasized in the original 1930s-1940s version they covered.

It's the same thing with X-Men, it's about race or it's about being gay or it's about being an immigrant. It's such a basic retarded metaphor that it could be anything.

X-men became the template for people with identity grievances against society, real or imagined. If the writers had the guts to keep it tied to race or xenophobia--the whole point is Xmen are genetically different--they could have made future stories less retarded. Instead they followed the general liberal trajectory over the decades, and agreed to equate all identities as equal and intersectional. That's how you get garbage like the Krakoa arc, or a sudden explosion of previously-straight characters turning gay in the last 10 years.

Since Marvel is about to roll out more X-men slop, I'm curious if RLM will take the same character lens to those stories as well. The franchise deserves it, though I think it's harder because the team dynamic necessarily dilutes how much characterization and focus each one gets. Superman is a standalone archetype and the star of his own movies, the X-men can throw so many types and tropes into one movie that the ensemble distracts from individual analysis.

 

[Shartavius]

I'm curious if RLM will take the same character lens to those stories as well.

In short: No. The modern RLM lens is not knowing what they're talking about, or pretending that being outright contrarian concerning something inconsequentially superficial or unconnected to the film itself (such as astroturfed Internet discourse conforming to some false dichotomy to do with US politics for an international release of a comic book film set in a fictional universe) is their film review. If you're referring to them holding genre films to any sort of consistent standard, then that's also a "No": They'll occasionally review incoherent, tentpole capeshit, then go right back to pretending they're above reviewing capeshit, while also prescribing a trending Disney + or Prime streaming series which constitutes a non-capeshit segment of the capeshit audience diet (which includes large portions of Star Wars slop, as well).

What's interesting to me is how Mike and Jay seem to have drifted away from sharing the tastes of their own audience. I suspect it's because this whole song and dance is for the sake of subsidizing Mike's growing addiction to nude Sylvester Stallone memorabilia that's aging him in dog years.

 

[Puerile Burger]

They lost their touch.

After they let that fat retarded bitch Deuandra T Brown bully their review of her shit movie off of the Toobz, it's been a steady decline.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

In short: No. The modern RLM lens is not knowing what they're talking about, or pretending that being outright contrarian concerning something inconsequentially superficial or unconnected to the film itself (such as astroturfed Internet discourse conforming to some false dichotomy to do with US politics for an international release of a comic book film set in a fictional universe) is their film review. If you're referring to them holding genre films to any sort of consistent standard, then that's also a "No": They'll occasionally review incoherent, tentpole capeshit, then go right back to pretending they're above reviewing capeshit, while also prescribing a trending Disney + or Prime streaming series which constitutes a non-capeshit segment of the capeshit audience diet (which includes large portions of Star Wars slop, as well).

What's interesting to me is how Mike and Jay seem to have drifted away from sharing the tastes of their own audience. I suspect it's because this whole song and dance is for the sake of subsidizing Mike's growing addiction to nude Sylvester Stallone memorabilia that's aging him in dog years.

They are too ecstatic to be in with some actual Hollywood types to have the balls to criticize anything anymore, and are toeing the woke line to keep their Reddit fanbase from turning on them.

It's fucking sad how they've turned into total hypocrites.

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

After they let that fat retarded bitch Deuandra T Brown bully their review of her shit movie off of the Toobz, it's been a steady decline.

They couldn't do anything about it. Do you have a Google account? Give them a DMCA strike for no reason. It's not like anyone will stop you. As far as I know, that's how it works and it's complete bullshit. Josh talked about it many times on MATI.

To be fair though, that bitch was tenacious. I reuploaded the Diamond Cobra review to Bitchute and it got removed in a few hours tops.

 

[TheMonkeyMan]

At least they took a shot at Deaundra in a later episode.

 

[#lurker]

self-selecting group of bitter once-fans who just circle-jerk about how much they've come to hate the subject

Hmm, that reminds me of a certain YouTube channel.

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

At least they took a shot at Deaundra in a later episode.

I'd hate to be completely dependent on a platform that could ban me and delete all my videos and subscribers at a moment's notice. Just imagine if they got banned on Youtube for whatever stupid reason. They'd be DONE. If I were them, I'd use Rumble as an alternative and announce that loudly on Youtube just in case.