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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%

  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%

  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%

  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%

  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%

  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%

  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%

  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%

  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%

  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%
  • Total voters
    1,073
FatMebius said:
Even the usual paid shills are shitting on the Section 31 movie. It must be exceptionally bad.
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Well....I only know the partial scuttlebutt of the situation having intentionally been avoiding any news or talk of Nu-trek the last few years because I was getting to the point where the cringe was actively hurting me, but the TLDR of it is that Michelle Yeoh's character is the very literal super hitler from the mirror universe, like straight up "unrepentant and smug orchestrater of mass genocides, gleeful cannibal, had a whole stable of sex slaves she raped on a regular basis" shit being explicitly stated and shown, however she was instantly forgiven and befriended by the protagonist shaniqua of STD (who is also spock's previously unmentioned adopted human sister and the most important person in his and Sarek's life as well as smarter and stronger than them and....ok I will stop now....fuck STD was bad) because her mainline universe variant was her mentor despite still being a very literal super hitler who liked to gloat about it and still do literal super hitler shit, and this was depicted as perfectly moral and heartwarming because STD is an STD. This is before we factor in how all of this was also drenched in woke schtick from the getgo with regards to overt "ORANGE MAN BAD" messaging and crowbarring currentyear xitter lib buzzwords and narratives in every episode.

This is the protagonist of the movie. A movie all about her leading the 2edgy4u federation black ops that some consider the original sin of the franchise way back when they debuted in DS9.

I do not say this lightly but it has the potential to be not only the absolute worst nu-trek product so far, which is one hell of a statement for me to make after the nadirs of STD and Picard, but more than that it seems near certain it will be the single biggest and most contempt filled fuck you towards the franchise as a whole and the core of what made Star Trek different from other sci-fi franchises, and this is coming from the perspective of someone who is just a casual fan of old-trek and not a hardcore trek nurd like Mike or Rich......so yeah this should be a real fuckin interesting re:view
 
Judge Holden said:
so yeah this should be a real fuckin interesting re:view
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I predict Rich will shit all over it and Mike will marble-mouth his way through to finding some faint positives. Because Rich is a normie and Mike is a diehard Trekkie who can't ever completely disavow his woobie.

I'd love to be wrong, and will eat a Shankara stone if I am.

If Mike does deliver a scathing review, then it'll be hard evidence this is truly the worst Star Trek product ever conceived.
 
I watched Drinker's review of it because it was only a few minutes long, and from how he described it, Mike is really going to have to reach if he's looking for something to be positive about. The plot is your standard "crazy guy wants revenge and is going to use a superweapon to do it" plot that yet again rips off Wrath of Khan because that's the only story that hacks like Kurtzman can handle, except this time it's gonna blow up half the galaxy or whatever (remember when Star Trek 2009 said a star going supernova was going to destroy the galaxy? these idiots don't know shit about scale). The tone is all over the place, where half the time they're trying for a goofy Guardians of the Galaxy vibe and the other half they're trying to be edgy and dark. And as mentioned above, when your main character is literally mega ultra Hitler from the Mirror Universe, it's kind of hard to reconcile that character with a wacky tone. The characters are all one-dimensional stereotypes and none of them are interesting, and Michelle Yeoh is too good an actress for this dreck. It is something that should never have gotten off the ground in the first place, and we can only be glad that Kurtzman didn't fully get his way and get an entire series out of Paramount.

Mike, buddy: let it go. Until Kurtzman and his butt buddies are no longer in the picture, Star Trek is simply not worth your time.
 
King Dead said:
I watched Drinker's review of it because it was only a few minutes long, and from how he described it, Mike is really going to have to reach if he's looking for something to be positive about. The plot is your standard "crazy guy wants revenge and is going to use a superweapon to do it" plot that yet again rips off Wrath of Khan because that's the only story that hacks like Kurtzman can handle, except this time it's gonna blow up half the galaxy or whatever (remember when Star Trek 2009 said a star going supernova was going to destroy the galaxy? these idiots don't know shit about scale). The tone is all over the place, where half the time they're trying for a goofy Guardians of the Galaxy vibe and the other half they're trying to be edgy and dark. And as mentioned above, when your main character is literally mega ultra Hitler from the Mirror Universe, it's kind of hard to reconcile that character with a wacky tone. The characters are all one-dimensional stereotypes and none of them are interesting, and Michelle Yeoh is too good an actress for this dreck. It is something that should never have gotten off the ground in the first place, and we can only be glad that Kurtzman didn't fully get his way and get an entire series out of Paramount.

Mike, buddy: let it go. Until Kurtzman and his butt buddies are no longer in the picture, Star Trek is simply not worth your time.
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I watched the same review. It really does sound dreadful (and the RT scores have both audiences and critics shitting on it, which is fairly unusual for media-approved franchises these days) and I'm legit curious to see what Mike has to say about it. It's just that I have no faith in his ability to maintain any kind of impartiality when it comes to anything Trek-related.
 
Mola Ram said:
I watched the same review. It really does sound dreadful (and the RT scores have both audiences and critics shitting on it, which is fairly unusual for media-approved franchises these days) and I'm legit curious to see what Mike has to say about it. It's just that I have no faith in his ability to maintain any kind of impartiality when it comes to anything Trek-related.
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Honestly I afford Mike a decent dribble of pity with regards to his desperate Trek hopium after being directly and personally singled out for condemnation by William Shatner out of nowhere, and for the most bizarre ass reasons if memory serves (something about Kevin Smith and trolls and....fuck I cant even memba now).

It sucked balls as a casual fan to see how bad the franchise got and continues to get, I legit cannot imagine how much worse it must be for the hardcore trekkie. Lord knows when shit I am more hardcore about got molested by currentyear like when amazon decided to write a Galadriel/Elrond/Sauron love triangle in LAWD DEM RAAAAANGZ I straight up bluescreened for a week even after mentally preparing myself for the worst and reminding myself ever second it was literally and legally just fanfiction.

If JRR or Christopher Tolkien were still alive and actively signed off on it as 1000% canon, and released a statement denouncing me personally for insulting fucking Rian Johnson or some other rando they decided to white knight, my soul would feel as buck broken as Mike's. Obviously this is not a perfect comparison, but fundamentally I get how "your favourite franchise turns to absolute shit and worse, and then the OG from when your franchise was at its height descends from above to spit in your face personally" is a recipe for madness tinged denial and hopium.
 
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Judge Holden said:
If JRR or Christopher Tolkien were still alive and actively signed off on it as 1000% canon, and released a statement denouncing me personally for insulting fucking Rian Johnson or some other rando they decided to white knight, my soul would feel as buck broken as Mike's.
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Nah, you could just move over to Gene Wolfe, who's too esoteric ever to be filmed and therefore ruined.
 
Judge Holden said:
Honestly I afford Mike a decent dribble of pity with regards to his desperate Trek hopium after being directly and personally singled out for condemnation by William Shatner out of nowhere, and for the most bizarre ass reasons if memory serves (something about Kevin Smith and trolls and....fuck I cant even memba now).
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Here's the video where they talk about it. Apparently a bunch of RLM fans were pestering Shatner to go on one of their shows, and Shatner thought RLM were the ones doing it. I think, I'm also having trouble remembering it and I don't want to rewatch a 20 minute long video to refresh my memory.

 
Mola Ram said:
I predict Rich will shit all over it and Mike will marble-mouth his way through to finding some faint positives. Because Rich is a normie and Mike is a diehard Trekkie who can't ever completely disavow his woobie.
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I would be very surprised if Mike cuts it any slack. He gave a more or less glowing review of Picard S3, but even he admitted that they got him on the nostalgiabaiting more than anything. He was extremely critical about basically every part of Picard S1 and S2 past the first episode of each, and was very negative about Discovery S2 as well, and never continued past it. Only in Discovery S1 did he really give it the benefit of the doubt, and even that dried up by the end. He also pretty much dismissed SNW out of hand because the characters all talk like retards.

By almost all accounts this Section 31 movie is basically all of the worst things about NuTrek filtered out and distilled into one movie. I think the only way he will be positive about it is in the dismissive "Well, what the fuck did you expect?" kind of way.
 
Starman John said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wIp8vQxDS-M
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Couple minutes in and they are babbling about their commemorative trek plate and casually throwing shit at wil wheaton. Should be some fun depression fodder for the end of my wagie shift.

EDIT: 8 minutes in and both have declared Star Trek dead to them, Mike is cutting it zero slack, and I kinda want to watch it for myself just out of pure masochism.
 
Judge Holden said:
EDIT: 8 minutes in and both have declared Star Trek dead to them, Mike is cutting it zero slack, and I kinda want to watch it for myself just out of pure masochism.
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Welp, looks like I need to find out how long it takes to cook a Shankara stone in an air fryer! (The magma grill is on the fritz since the guy who runs it scored an H1B visa.)
 
Mola Ram said:
Welp, looks like I need to find out how long it takes to cook a Shankara stone in an air fryer! (The magma grill is on the fritz since the guy who runs it scored an H1B visa.)
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Wait hold the phone.....in the literal last minute Mike offered a "it was not quite as fucking stupid as I thought it would be" take based on how unfathomably fucking stupid some shit from discovery was.

Also they dun smashed the commemorative plate
 
>Star Trek show that just came out
>BOTW style screening room clips
>Re:View

What the hell is going on?
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Who cares about Star Trek there are CHILDREN IN AFRICA who are starving.
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I love the hell out of RLM still, but I genuinely hope that all new Star Trek sucks forever because of how smug and hypocritical that Acolyte review is
 
Vibralldo said:
I love the hell out of RLM still, but I genuinely hope that all new Star Trek sucks forever because of how smug and hypocritical that Acolyte review is
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I love Best of the Worst, but I can't watch them anymore. It is not just the Acolyte stuff but holy shit Half in the Bag is

"A MARVEL MOVIE CAME OUT, Its a shame that they are such slop"
"Oh here is Horror Movie with no Budget #1748740780470847048407 with writing as shitty as Marvel Slop but we like it because Its a HORROR MOVIE."
 
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