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[TheMonkeyMan]

This is the only time I’ve enjoyed a user reviews segment.

EDIT: Mike watched Lower Decks and liked it? I was not expecting that.

 

[tehpope]

Happy Barbenheimer everyone! Watch as these two elderly losers stall for half the video before finally discussing what some are calling the best movie of the year: Oppenheimer! In addition to that, Mike and Jay discuss the ongoing writer and actor strikes as well as it's consequences on movies, theaters, streamers, audiences, and most importantly what effect it will have on David Zaslav. Won't someone please think of poor David Zaslav?!

Here's the description again. Thanks mike, very cool.

 

[popnloch ness monster]

what a wasted opportunity not to have the combined Barbenheimer experience

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

not a bad HiTB. one of the few recent ones ive actually found entertaining. only disagreement i have with them is being disappointed, but not surprised, that they support the faggot writers strike. hack writers who write shitty streaming service shows dont really deserve large residuals.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I liked this episode. I agree with Jay but here I thought the 2nd movie renaissance (harkening back to the golden age of the 70's) would happen after COVID/Plandemic/Whatever but it seems like it took that PLUS a recession PLUS multiple high profile 200+ million dollar movies to epically bomb to maybe finally force this to happen.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I liked this episode. I agree with Jay but here I thought the 2nd movie renaissance (harkening back to the golden age of the 70's) would happen after COVID/Plandemic/Whatever but it seems like it took that PLUS a recession PLUS multiple high profile 200+ million dollar movies to epically bomb to maybe finally force this to happen.

I'm not convinced there will be a 2nd movie renaissance because the theater itself has become a luxury service. The only really good day to go to a theater is on discount day (usually Tuesday) where ticket prices sort of look like what they did twenty years ago. Otherwise, it just ain't worth it. There might be a streaming renaissance where they convert those services into profitable versions of Youtube/Twitch channels.

Maybe that's what Nolan should do, livestream a director's commentary and take Superchats. Hollywood people are probably going to have to convert to Youtube personalities in the future and so far, they've had mixed success doing so, mostly caused by talking about politics like idiots.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I'm not convinced there will be a 2nd movie renaissance because the theater itself has become a luxury service. The only really good day to go to a theater is on discount day (usually Tuesday) where ticket prices sort of look like what they did twenty years ago. Otherwise, it just ain't worth it. There might be a streaming renaissance where they convert those services into profitable versions of Youtube/Twitch channels.

Maybe that's what Nolan should do, livestream a director's commentary and take Superchats. Hollywood people are probably going to have to convert to Youtube personalities in the future and so far, they've had mixed success doing so, mostly caused by talking about politics like idiots.

I think there's room for smaller movies in the 5-20 million range. People still like going to the theater. I agree with you on streaming and god only knows how that's going to end up.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I think there's room for smaller movies in the 5-20 million range. People still like going to the theater. I agree with you on streaming and god only knows how that's going to end up.

A lot of those Blumhouse movies are effectively streaming service content though. They're not the next Psycho or The Birds. The Blockbuster is a Boomer pastime and it just doesn't transfer well to people who don't have that much money.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

I think there's room for smaller movies in the 5-20 million range. People still like going to the theater. I agree with you on streaming and god only knows how that's going to end up.

There's also room for creative, smaller budget movies. I think the stark separation between Hollywood blockbuster and independent art house in a tiny room with 10 chairs needs to disappear.

Edit: And by that I mean, that difference is bullshit, there's a vast ocean of movies in between that.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

There's also room for creative, smaller budget movies. I think the stark separation between Hollywood blockbuster and independent art house in a tiny room with 10 chairs needs to disappear.

Edit: And by that I mean, that difference is bullshit, there's a vast ocean of movies in between that.

You know who would be really great for that? Harvey Weinstein.

 

[draggs]

A lot of those Blumhouse movies are effectively streaming service content though. They're not the next Psycho or The Birds. The Blockbuster is a Boomer pastime and it just doesn't transfer well to people who don't have that much money.

If the blockbuster is a boomer pasttime and doesn't translate (not transfer) well to poors, why do good and even many bad movies intended to be 'blockbusters' still do so well? The average price of a movie ticket is still about $10, how many people do you think can't afford $10 at least semi-regularly?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

If the blockbuster is a boomer pasttime and doesn't translate (not transfer) well to poors, why do good and even many bad movies intended to be 'blockbusters' still do so well? The average price of a movie ticket is still about $10, how many people do you think can't afford $10 at least semi-regularly?

Wrong. Tickets are around $15 now and as Jay points out in the video, taking a family to a theater gets very expensive very quickly. Also look at the people who actually go to theaters; they're mostly Boomers and Gen Xers. Anyone who plays video games regularly doesn't care about movies that much.

 

[draggs]

Wrong. Tickets are around $15 now and as Jay points out in the video, taking a family to a theater gets very expensive very quickly. Also look at the people who actually go to theaters; they're mostly Boomers and Gen Xers. Anyone who plays video games regularly doesn't care about movies that much.

Tickets are not around $15. They're around $10.50 average

I don't care what family-less Jay Bauman thinks it costs to take a family to the movies. It only gets expensive if you're a retard who can't tell your kids no we're not buying $50 worth of shit at the concessions stand

The demographics of moviegoers? A much larger percentage of 65+ said they didn't go to a movie last year than the 18-34 set. Boomers who do go to the movies go more frequently than anyone else, but a much smaller percentage of all Boomers go than the other age brackets. Only 16% of moviegoers in 2022 were older than 65. Younger people (18-34) buy more tickets than any other group. Almost half of moviegoers in 2022 made less than $50,000 a year. tldr you're a retard if you can't afford to go to a movie, young people still drive ticket sales. Like it has always been

You can find all this out yourself very easily instead of relying on some youtube personality, or whoever you rely on for your well-informed inaccurate knowledge of the box office

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

I don't care what family-less Jay Bauman thinks it costs to take a family to the movies. It only gets expensive if you're a retard who can't tell your kids no we're not buying $50 worth of shit at the concessions stand

Speak the truth. Only niggernerds pay $15.

*Edit* Just checked the nearest theatre to me in SE Michigan and a seat for 70mm oppenheimer was a whopping $11 for general admission. $11.25 at a theatre with the recliner seats. Sure if I want to meme and go full IMAX, then yeah, it's $15.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=k3irn5SxXLA

Both topics of the video are relevant. You can fix everything wrong with Hollywood with a few well placed atomic bombs.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

I can't believe Mike complains about Strange New Worlds but watches Lower Decks. The characters are fucking annoying.

 

[TVB]

I can't believe Mike complains about Strange New Worlds but watches Lower Decks. The characters are fucking annoying.

Lower Decks is just Rick & Morty shit but with the Star Trek characters slapped onto it. They might as well watch shit like Prodigy.

 

[Product Placement]

Jay's hopes for more movies like the 70's. I don't think that will happen because those types of drama movies if still getting made don't do well. Looking at the box office this year, it's $100 million crowd pleasers such as John Wick 4, Barbie, Mario Movie, Creed 3 and so on that are the hits, whereas movies like Fast X, MI7, and Little Mermaid aren't making a profit due to their huge $250+ budgets and that is before you go into outright flops like the Flash and IJ5.

I don't think blockbusters will go away but they will have to be made cheaper and smarter, the days when every blockbuster has a $200+ million budget are gone. It cost $287 million total for the back-to-back shoot of the Lord of the Rings movies, budget for the Hobbit movies was $700–745 million, while inflation can count for some of the higher budget, most of it is due to shit like unneeded CGI and other wastes of money because they knew it would be a hit based on the LotR movies and were lazier knowing that.

They also bring up the Irishman in the video, just want to say the budget of that looking online was anywhere between $159 million and $250 million, no shit Martin Scorsese can't get movies made with budgets like that without the help of streamers. Had Irishman or Killers of the Flower Moon ($200 million budget) had a budget closer to The Wolf of Wall Street which cost $100 million (which is already a bit high for that type of movie) no doubt he would still get deals with the big studios but at those budgets no way they will make money at cinemas.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

Jay's hopes for more movies like the 70's. I don't think that will happen because those types of drama movies if still getting made don't do well. Looking at the box office this year, it's $100 million crowd pleasers such as John Wick 4, Barbie, Mario Movie, Creed 3 and so on that are the hits, whereas movies like Fast X, MI7, and Little Mermaid aren't making a profit due to their huge $250+ budgets and that is before you go into outright flops like the Flash and IJ5.

I don't think blockbusters will go away but they will have to be made cheaper and smarter, the days when every blockbuster has a $200+ million budget are gone. It cost $287 million total for the back-to-back shoot of the Lord of the Rings movies, budget for the Hobbit movies was $700–745 million, while inflation can count for some of the higher budget, most of it is due to shit like unneeded CGI and other wastes of money because they knew it would be a hit based on the LotR movies and were lazier knowing that.

They also bring up the Irishman in the video, just want to say the budget of that looking online was anywhere between $159 million and $250 million, no shit Martin Scorsese can't get movies made with budgets like that without the help of streamers. Had Irishman or Killers of the Flower Moon ($200 million budget) had a budget closer to The Wolf of Wall Street which cost $100 million (which is already a bit high for that type of movie) no doubt he would still get deals with the big studios but at those budgets no way they will make money at cinemas.

i agree, most blockbusters are going to have to come down in price if they want to make money, especially with streaming. i just dont see a way to justify making multiple movies per year which cost more than 100 million and expecting that to pay off in the world of streaming services.

also, how did the Irishman cost 250 mil? wasn't a bad movie but there wasnt anything in that movie which i think should cost that much beyond over inflated actor salaries.


and as an aside, i love that jay brings up the 70s as a golden age of movies. ive been saying this for a long time now. some of my favorites are from that decade and they just dont make them like that anymore. a lot of the average movie audiences online dont understand that, they look at those movies and go, but this isnt a cgi super hero movie, and so they dismiss these "old boring" movies. i cant imagine a modern audience would sit through something like 'Network' in theater. maybe now that jay has said it, this view will get more popular.

I can't believe Mike complains about Strange New Worlds but watches Lower Decks. The characters are fucking annoying.

i mean i cant blame him for not liking strange new worlds. i know some of you guys say it is great, but i cant see that. ive seen the trailer and i dont see great old trek in it, just new trek that just isnt as awful as picard.

but as for lower decks, yeah i dont get mike's love for it, but i also dont get the love for rick and morty. but mike seems to like both, so just going to be yet another thing i disagree with RLM crew on.

 

[TVB]

The Irishman deserved more a theatrical release, except studios want to make more shared universe movies for theatres, yet they keep failing no matter what. This also explains not just the strike, but an almost near-death for cinemas.