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[Vibralldo]

"but it sucks" starts to get pushed off the table by sheer quantity over quality so much that the vague racism just comes off as running out of ideas.

I'm saying "Episodes 1-3 of Star Wars suck" and they're countering with "but the spin off TV series written by different people is really good".
Probably, but that doesn't make the movies good.

They are still better than the sequels.

Agreed. The sequels sucking so hard is part of why people are retroactively saying the prequels are good, because they look better by comparison. They can both suck.

 

[Captain Manning]

The Prequels were a good idea executed poorly.
The Sequels were a terrible idea executed horrendously.

Agreed. What caused the prequels to shit the bed was the horrible dialogue and acting. The romance scenes in Episode II were sooooo bad. I was cringing in my seat in the movie theater. If they fixed things like that, they would have been okay. The general framework of the prequel story was fine.

The sequels are unsalvageable trash and should not have been made.

I did kinda like Rogue One (a prequel) though. The last 10-20 minutes brought a smile to my face.

EDIT: Elaboration.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

The Prequels can be salvaged with some tweaks here and there. There's a lot of good ideas within the Prequels, and a lot of the problems was just with the execution.

The Sequels are just rotten from top to bottom; completely unsalvageable.

Plus, the Prequels still provide some pretty great memes after 25 years. The Sequels are so bad that they are hard to even make fun of. They're just ... Bad.

 

[Flexo]

I did kinda like Rogue One though. The last 10-20 minutes brought a smile to my face

I do love auralnauts reworking of stuff.

Kenobi as a druggy Larry instead. The 80s and 70s TV intros for things like Andor.

Heck the fandom even animated the classic EU lately.

At this point just let the fans run star wars. It won't be great, but it will be entertaining.

 

[Captain Manning]

The Sequels are just rotten from top to bottom; completely unsalvageable.

Star wars is lesson on the importance in knowing when to quit.

The prequels had an interesting story to tell (even though they botched the execution), and Return of the Jedi was a fine ending. The only reason they wanted sequels was money. Not because there was an interesting story to tell.

Plus, the Prequels still provide some pretty great memes after 25 years. The Sequels are so bad that they are hard to even make fun of. They're just ... Bad.

Well, except for...



But, yeah, that's like the only good meme that came out of these piles of shit.

 

[big pauper]

I'm saying "Episodes 1-3 of Star Wars suck" and they're countering with "but the spin off TV series written by different people is really good".
Probably, but that doesn't make the movies good.

those are just fanboys,they're retarded and they're always retarded. but it still backs up my primary point about the prequels being a multimedia powerhouse built around the framework of a basic sword and sorcery drama. unlike the original trilogy they do not carry their own weight as films but they're carrying an immense amount of worldbuilding that most 'zoomers' are probably going to be most familiar with because they probably didn't watch a two hour movie as much as they played star wars battlefront, or jedi accademy, or knights of the old republic, or even just a podracing game.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

It's amazing that if there is anything with even the most minor of relation to Star Wars with RLM, the thread becomes endless Star Wars discussion. Guess that's what happens when the most famous reviews are about Star Wars.

 

[Captain Manning]

It's amazing that if there is anything with even the most minor of relation to Star Wars with RLM, the thread becomes endless Star Wars discussion. Guess that's what happens when the most famous reviews are about Star Wars.

And Star Trek.

I think they might have done more Star Trek overall (because there is more of it), and Mike is a huge Trekkie. Their multi-part Picard Re:View is a hoot. This could just as easily become a Star trek thread.

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

Well, except for...

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But, yeah, that's like the only good meme that came out of these piles of shit.

The TR-8R memes were good.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

And Star Trek.

I think they might have done more Star Trek overall (because there is more of it), and Mike is a huge Trekkie. Their multi-part Picard Re:View is a hoot. This could just as easily become a Star trek thread.

I personally think the Star Trek is not nearly discussed in comparison to Star Wars, but I do agree I think their Picard reviews are honestly the best thing they put out in the 2020s so far

 

[Captain Manning]

I personally think the Star Trek is not nearly discussed in comparison to Star Wars, but I do agree I think their Picard reviews are honestly the best thing they put out in the 2020s so far

It was funny watching Mike and Rich slowly slip into the depths of despair over Picard.

I think that Re:View is best when it's Mike and Rich. They have great chemistry together.

When the others do it, it's a mixed bag.

 

[SlipNHonkMach2]

You are a lucky man.

They are garbage and these zoomers that are coming out recently and claiming they were actually good all along are both blinded by nostalgia and are comparing them to the dogshit disney trilogy.

The first 2 are especially a slog to get through.

It is funny how much effort and gaslighting is being done by the younger Gen Z crowd, who were either toddlers or weren't even born when the prequels came out, to try and justify it by claiming RLM is the sole culprit of the hate towards the prequel trilogy, as if the criticism was solely about Jar Jar and Anakin's actors and nothing else in any of the movies, especially online. All RLM did was take all those common criticisms and compact them into a cohesive manner that resonated with the populace that felt severely underwhelmed by them.
I do feel bad for the actors who played Jar Jar and Anakin though, because many of the fans who felt internally conflicted about the movies placed an unnecessary amount of hate towards them to the point of harassing them in person, as if the reason the prequels sucked is due to them, when in reality it was all George Luca's doing. He made the characters, he chose the actors, and he directed them on how to act. But alas, many couldn't come to grips that their beloved creator, was somehow flawed in his decision making.

 

[Flexo]

And Star Trek.

I think they might have done more Star Trek overall (because there is more of it), and Mike is a huge Trekkie. Their multi-part Picard Re:View is a hoot. This could just as easily become a Star trek thread.

@Mola Ram and I stand loaded and ready...

Compared to star trek, I'm a filthy star wars casual.

I personally think the Star Trek is not nearly discussed in comparison to Star Wars, but I do agree I think their Picard reviews are honestly the best thing they put out in the 2020s so far

Nah, their best was...

 

[NomineNemo]

I do lament that they didn't continue with their TNG/[Insert any old Star Trek series here] season review.

They are always at their best when they are talking about something they care about. This is why everything they do is hit or miss besides Re:View, which I assume they decide on based on ye olden movies of yore that they give a shit about.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Reminder that the Sequels were written and directed by JJ Abrams, who is not George Lucas and has definitely proven he's worse. And I am charitably giving TLJ a mulligan. Add TLJ and the Trilogy is the worst cinematic experience in the past 10 years.

 

[Captain Manning]

Reminder that the Sequels were written and directed by JJ Abrams, who is not George Lucas and has definitely proven he's worse. And I am charitably giving TLJ a mulligan. Add TLJ and the Trilogy is the worst cinematic experience in the past 10 years.

More on topic to this thread: RLM (I think specifically it was Mike) was 100% spot on when he said that Abrams is a competent director, but an absolute shit writer that should be kept out of the writer's room at all costs.

 

[moocow]

That's OK, you just need to quote the prequel reviews, like it's a completely appropriate thing to do when an innocent woman is horrifically murdered by her own brother, like every other unfunny fucking cunt in this thread is doing.

What's wrong with your faaaace?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

More on topic to this thread: RLM (I think specifically it was Mike) was 100% spot on when he said that Abrams is a competent director, but an absolute shit writer that should be kept out of the writer's room at all costs.

Can't have one without the other.

1) Abrams started off his career as a writer and wrote Regarding Henry and Armageddon before becoming a director.

2) Movie directors have way more power than writers in general. Writers are only useful in the script phase while Directors are involved as the project managers all throughout production. If a director needs lines or scenes to be changed, they get changed.

3) RLM love the writer/director method of film making as the argument is that this kind can create unconstrained visionary work. In practice, it doesn't work because cinematography is different from writing. JJ Abrams has decent shots in it, but dialogue shittier than anything Lucas ever wrote.

 

[Slur Generator]

I do feel bad for the actors who played Jar Jar and Anakin though, because many of the fans who felt internally conflicted about the movies placed an unnecessary amount of hate towards them to the point of harassing them in person, as if the reason the prequels sucked is due to them, when in reality it was all George Luca's doing. He made the characters, he chose the actors, and he directed them on how to act. But alas, many couldn't come to grips that their beloved creator, was somehow flawed in his decision making.

Its all bulshit, all of it.
The whole thing gets blown way out of proportion. The real problem wasn’t some small fan forum, social media didn’t even exist back then, and hate mail couldn't reach a 12-year-old kid like Jake Lloyd without someone reading it first(unless his parents were truly retarded). The bullying he faced wasn’t from fandom, it was regular kids at school.
There was no Facebook, no Twitter and the vast majority of people didn't really use the internet. The only way hate mail got to them is if they specifically sought it out or if the media dug it up and highlighted it. They were the ones doing the heavy lifting. They trashed The Phantom Menace, made jokes about Jar Jar, and tore apart Lloyd’s performance on TV shows and in print. It's important to point out that the faggotty media is just covering it own ass.

 

[Captain Manning]

3) RLM love the writer/director method of film making as the argument is that this kind can create unconstrained visionary work. In practice, it doesn't work because cinematography is different from writing. JJ Abrams has decent shots in it, but dialogue shittier than anything Lucas ever wrote.

Yeah, but in the case of the prequels they were specifically arguing against the writer/director method though. They opined that Abrams could direct a fine Star wars movie but, dear God, don't let him write one.

Unless, if they're that married to that method, they basically indirectly saying Abrams shouldn't have been involved at all.