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[mlanguishi]

Mikes dementia riddled review of Megalopolis was actually dead on, bizarre movie that I just had scenes happen, but I just couldn’t stop watching it.

I’m a little disappointed that they haven’t mentioned Hundreds of Beavers at all, it was a gem from this year and I would have thought it would have been right up their alley.

Oddly enough Beavers was Chris Stuckmann's movie of the year.. If it weren't for him I would've had not heard of it at all.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

Oddly enough Beavers was Chris Stuckmann's movie of the year.. If it weren't for him I would've had not heard of it at all.

Definitely my film of the year too, very inventive, very fun and the escalating jokes/plot were great.

I think I originally saw the recommendation on Colin from Canada’s Twitter post, so to me it’s even more of a puzzler why they never brought it up.

 

[Pascal's Wagie]

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I am surprised Jay is shitting on Joker 2, thought he would've loved it

But lol at the cope of "People will analyze it and like it more in 20 years"

 

[Judge Holden]

But lol at the cope of "People will analyze it and like it more in 20 years"

To be fair his quote of...

The day may come when they'll look back on it and say it's a misunderstood masterpiece. The day is never gonna come where I say this movie isn't boring as shit

....is probably a reference to Ebert's final opinion on Freddy Got Fingered

The day may come when Freddy Got Fingered is seen as a milestone of neo-surrealism. The day may never come when it is seen as funny

Which in and of itself may be a subtle reference to the fact that the Joker got anally raped....god I am still fucking laughing about this shit

 

[NomineNemo]

I'll third the recommendation for Hundreds of Beavers.

Such a fun and creative movie.

It was so refreshing to just see a simple movie done well. A comedy made purely with the intention of making people laugh without mashing multiple genres together into a messy soup. How novel.

 

[The Paleblood Vessel]

I'm also surprised at the lack of Hundreds of Beavers considering how Jay frequently mentioned in the past about how they don't make movies that are straight up comedies (and are also good) anymore, and how it always has to be filtered through a different genre like an action comedy or a horror comedy or whatever. Then we get this movie which is flat out a comedy with no additional strings attached or anything, and I hear them talking about fucking Smile 2 and Youtuber movies over it.

Which quick additional thing, I didn't see Smile 2 because the premise behind both movies sounds retarded, but I somehow doubt that those two are worse than fucking Night Swim, Imaginary, AfrAId, and the other Blumhouse slop that Mike somehow subjects himself to.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Which quick additional thing, I didn't see Smile 2 because the premise behind both movies sounds retarded, but I somehow doubt that those two are worse than fucking Night Swim, Imaginary, AfrAId, and the other Blumhouse slop that Mike somehow subjects himself to.

As someone who's seen both Smile films and Night Swim, they are very different. Especially because the Smile films at least are competently made movies with effort that actually have something going for them unlike the Blumhouse disposable slop.

 

[Starman John]

My biggest surprise in this Half In The Bag is Jay going about Joker 2 that "It's trying to criticize a fraction of the audience which i don't think exists (people who idolize the Joker)". It's weird for me to see someone like Jay talking about how the idea of the Joker idolizers is overblown.

 

[HeyYou]

My biggest surprise in this Half In The Bag is Jay going about Joker 2 that "It's trying to criticize a fraction of the audience which i don't think exists (people who idolize the Joker)". It's weird for me to see someone like Jay talking about how the idea of the Joker idolizers is overblown.

Yeah, that was funny because come on Jay, there absolutely are Joker worshippers out there. The problem with Joker 2 is you don't derail an entire fucking movie to whine and complain about people who you think missed the point of your previous film. Using Joker 2 as a vehicle to whine about people misinterpreting your last movie is going to age especially terribly with all the people who think Luigi is a hero, as Mike mentioned.

Also, it is now twice that Jay has brought up a movie director doing what George Lucas has said he's always going to do and making weird movies after retirement. I can't remember what video he mentioned it first in, I think it was in reference to John Carpenter. Weird that it's happened twice and all that.

 

[mlanguishi]

Also, it is now twice that Jay has brought up a movie director doing what George Lucas has said he's always going to do and making weird movies after retirement. I can't remember what video he mentioned it first in, I think it was in reference to John Carpenter. Weird that it's happened twice and all that.

I like when he does that. I remember Lucas late 80s/early 90s going on and on about how he was done with Hollywood and would make. Not stuff like Strange Magic, but things like this that only really obscure Lucas fans would know about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twice_Upon_a_Time_(1983_film)

 

[TerminalTryHard]

My biggest surprise in this Half In The Bag is Jay going about Joker 2 that "It's trying to criticize a fraction of the audience which i don't think exists (people who idolize the Joker)". It's weird for me to see someone like Jay talking about how the idea of the Joker idolizers is overblown.

I'm kind of with Jay on this one, I've seen people who could relate or empathize with Joaquin's Joker but no one who watched the movie and said "I want to be like him". If anything that's more of common with Nolan's version of the Joker.

 

[NomineNemo]

I'm kind of with Jay on this one, I've seen people who could relate or empathize with Joaquin's Joker but no one who watched the movie and said "I want to be like him". If anything that's more of common with Nolan's version of the Joker.

Could just be a knee-jerk reaction by an out of touch 50 something (Writer Director Todd Philips) to all the memes as, if nothing else, Joker was pretty meme-able.

Sometimes people don't understand that meme are just memes...except when they aren't.

 

[Commander X]

Yeah, that was funny because come on Jay, there absolutely are Joker worshippers out there. The problem with Joker 2 is you don't derail an entire fucking movie to whine and complain about people who you think missed the point of your previous film. Using Joker 2 as a vehicle to whine about people misinterpreting your last movie is going to age especially terribly with all the people who think Luigi is a hero, as Mike mentioned.

Also, it is now twice that Jay has brought up a movie director doing what George Lucas has said he's always going to do and making weird movies after retirement. I can't remember what video he mentioned it first in, I think it was in reference to John Carpenter. Weird that it's happened twice and all that.

Unfortunately, we have been in an era where people will fiercely defend something, anything, so long as it calls out "the chuds" or whoever their bugagboos and nightmare nemeses are. For instance, in the wake of the announcements about Christopher Nolan adapting the Odyssey for film, there has been a bit of a brouhaha over a more recent 2017 translation of Homer's The Odyssey by one Emily Watson, some people had criticized it for being a rather bland or clunky, translation compared to say, Robert Fagels' and people were recommending it recently not only because it's "lean" and "fleet footed" but more importantly, apparently, it made "dudebros cry that the classics have gone woke" and upset "fragile white dudes" and "white supremacists". You see this discourse now about almost everything from literature to modern light entertainment, from bloated AAA videogame releases to the latest reboot of some moribund franchise to Apple+ and HBO Max sludge.

Naturally, plenty of people out there have taken Todd Phillips position, that people posting Joker memes must be taken seriously as "Joker fans" and are a sinister force that must be stopped, sounding like all of the moral panic peddlers who publicly anticipated the first Joker would set off a wave of violence, or something.

 

[moocow]

but more importantly, apparently, it made "dudebros cry that the classics have gone woke" and upset "fragile white dudes" and "white supremacists".

I wonder if some part of them understands this means they're effectively trying to create propaganda.

I also wonder if any of these "creatives" actually feel like they're creating anything when their chief goal is "offend people we hate" versus "make something we like" or -- god forbid -- "make something that we think people will like." When your chief goal in making something is pissing people off, it tends not to work. Kinda like the "left can't meme" joke -- memes only work when you're in on the joke, and when you get pissed and try to make one from a place of hatred and rage, it's fucking obvious you were spitting venom as you made it.

Of course this would explain why most modern "creative" output has been dogshit -- deconstructionism for the sake of it, and more effort being made to shit on people rather than entertain them.

 

[Vibralldo]

Yeah, that was funny because come on Jay, there absolutely are Joker worshippers out there. The problem with Joker 2 is you don't derail an entire fucking movie to whine and complain about people who you think missed the point of your previous film. Using Joker 2 as a vehicle to whine about people misinterpreting your last movie is going to age especially terribly with all the people who think Luigi is a hero, as Mike mentioned.

Also, it is now twice that Jay has brought up a movie director doing what George Lucas has said he's always going to do and making weird movies after retirement. I can't remember what video he mentioned it first in, I think it was in reference to John Carpenter. Weird that it's happened twice and all that.

I'd say if done correctly, criticizing people who took Joker 1 as a heroic tale of triumph could have made Joker 2 prophetic in the same way Joker 1 predicted the Floyd riots a year prior. People idolize Luigi as some revolutionary leftist martyr when he was just some unstable rich kid that killed the CEO of a healthcare company he never bought coverage from.

Unfortunately Joker 2 was boring and miserable, so it will be forgotten except in memes making fun of how bad it was.

 

[I'm a Silly]

I'd say if done correctly, criticizing people who took Joker 1 as a heroic tale of triumph could have made Joker 2 prophetic in the same way Joker 1 predicted the Floyd riots a year prior. People idolize Luigi as some revolutionary leftist martyr when he was just some unstable rich kid that killed the CEO of a healthcare company he never bought coverage from.

Unfortunately Joker 2 was boring and miserable, so it will be forgotten except in memes making fun of how bad it was.

I forgot about the timing, but yes, below is one of my favorites from RWTwitter inspired by the car attacks:

 

[FieldPiece]

I'd say if done correctly, criticizing people who took Joker 1 as a heroic tale of triumph could have made Joker 2 prophetic in the same way Joker 1 predicted the Floyd riots a year prior. People idolize Luigi as some revolutionary leftist martyr when he was just some unstable rich kid that killed the CEO of a healthcare company he never bought coverage from.

Unfortunately Joker 2 was boring and miserable, so it will be forgotten except in memes making fun of how bad it was.

Joker 2 could have been interesting even if it was a courtroom drama still. Want to make a movie about people misinterpretting Joker?

You can still do that, in a way more understandable way. The first movie blatantly cribbed from history, particularly the Bernie Goetz trial. Make the second movie mirror real life trials which led to riots like OJ or King and have Arthurs words be twisted by the media or public stirring up riots and killings. This puts Arthur in the same position Of questioning his actions. Make Harley his lawyer who becomes obsessed with getting him a not guilty verdict and tries to manipulate his testimony. There's a billion ways they could have made joker 2 good and they refused.

 

[Vibralldo]

Joker 2 could have been interesting even if it was a courtroom drama still. Want to make a movie about people misinterpretting Joker?

You can still do that, in a way more understandable way. The first movie blatantly cribbed from history, particularly the Bernie Goetz trial. Make the second movie mirror real life trials which led to riots like OJ or King and have Arthurs words be twisted by the media or public stirring up riots and killings. This puts Arthur in the same position Of questioning his actions. Make Harley his lawyer who becomes obsessed with getting him a not guilty verdict and tries to manipulate his testimony. There's a billion ways they could have made joker 2 good and they refused.

Off topic, but the 2 minutes where Arthur Fleck is full joker in the courtroom was excellent and I wish we could have gotten more of it

Todd Phillips got scared about the imaginary violent incel fans of the first movie that the media made up and tried to sabotage the sequel to annoy a group that doesn't really exist

 

[Idiotron]

Which quick additional thing, I didn't see Smile 2 because the premise behind both movies sounds retarded, but I somehow doubt that those two are worse than fucking Night Swim, Imaginary, AfrAId, and the other Blumhouse slop that Mike somehow subjects himself to.

You're missing out on Smile 2, it's a legit good modern horror movie.
Especially the filmmaking is just great, the cinematography and editing is some of the best I've seen in a long time, not just in horror but in general.
The movies you compared it to are in a different league entirely, they're trash.
Don't even watch the 1st Smile, it's fine but not nearly as good.