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[The Last Stand]

The best way to describe Red Dead Redemption 2's writing direction is it being a romanticized version of the Old West per the creator's vision. There's certainly a clear "slant" in their vision, but that's the least of the game's problems. Subjectively, so to speak.

Edit: Literally the only thing I can think of is making Javier look less like Speedy Gonzalez, and even then, that's not really making it woke. That's just making him look less ridiculous, and more in line with how he looks in RDR2.

Would my Joan Crawford expy be considered "woke" since I made her to be a gunslinging, results-driven, mute that refuses to hunt large game for sport?

 

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The RDR1 remake is happening. I thought they would announce it today since it's Friday. But apparently not. Maybe Monday or they will be faggots and wait till August.

I don't think it will be a remaster but an actual remake. It's supposedly been in production since 2019. RDR1 never got a PC release of how awful the code was. From a video I watched a few years ago it was such a mess that Rockstar had to bring other people in to work on it. Just getting it on the consoles was hard enough. So no PC version.

I doubt they would jus remaster RDR1. It will likely be a remake using the RDR2 engine. If it's just a remaster then that's fine. But I think it will be a remake. The whole map for RDR1 is already in the game. I'm not saying video development is easy. But they already have the map and even the Mexico part of the map. All the map would need is some cosmetic changes to fit the differences in time. RDR2 starts in 1899. The Epilogue in 1907. RDR1 takes place from 1911 and the epilogue starts in 1914.

It looks like it's finally going to happen. I was hoping for it to release in 2022. But a lot of people kept saying 2023. Now I just have to wait and see if it's a good remake. As long as they don't screw with it too much it should be fine.

They are going to censor the shit out of the base game. Not something like the sex scenes, but things like the Mexicans being morons constantly placing a new dictator on the seat of power.

 

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They are going to censor the shit out of the base game. Not something like the sex scenes, but things like the Mexicans being morons constantly placing a new dictator on the seat of power.

Time will tell. I doubt R* would take the time, money and resources to give this supposedly remake/remaster The Last of US: Part I treatment. Only thing that'd be different would be graphics, performance and gameplay.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

They are going to censor the shit out of the base game. Not something like the sex scenes, but things like the Mexicans being morons constantly placing a new dictator on the seat of power.

Literally the only thing like this I can see happening is them doing this with the Natives because R* is so damn touchy about them.

Anything else? Doubtful.

 

[TVB]

They are going to censor the shit out of the base game. Not something like the sex scenes, but things like the Mexicans being morons constantly placing a new dictator on the seat of power.

Very unlikely for the most part. Only R* will more likely censor the race stuff with Mexicans and Native-Americans., but otherwise, everything else is completely doubtful

 

[Night Crawler]

They are going to censor the shit out of the base game. Not something like the sex scenes, but things like the Mexicans being morons constantly placing a new dictator on the seat of power.

I highly doubt this. That would require an entire rewrite of the games story since the political situation in Mexico was a huge part of the end game storyline. Most of the stuff in the game that people would consider woke now wasn't that heavy handed as the political messaging you see in games now. It was already left leaning so I doubt they will change it. The only thing I could see them changing is the NPC dialogues about Jews and how John Marston is working for the Jews.

My concern would be them adding new woke elements to the game. If it's a remake as it most likely will be they will have access to the whole RDR2 map. That leaves open a lot of possibilities for new annoying woke SJW BS to be added. I would be really concerned about the southern part of the map with all the niggers. Then you have the few feminist moments they stuck in the game. Sadie Adler as a character got pretty annoying. Where as Bonnie McFarlane was a better strong female character wasn't annoying. I actually liked Bonnie McFarlane as a character. The strong independent wahmen shit in RDR2 was annoying. It didn't ruin the game but it was still annoying. RDR2 was no where near as bad as that autistic faggot American Krogan made it out to be. A lot of it was historically accurate to the time period the game takes places in. A lot of the stuff Dutch says especially when you get to the southern part of the map is because Dutch is from the north and his father died in Pennsylvania in the Civil War. He was also pretty much influenced by the late 19th century version of liberal leftists.

Other concerns would be that it's actually good and not a dumpster fire like the GTA trilogy remasters. That the PC port is also good. The PC ports of RDR2 had a rocky start. I know because I preordered and didn't really play it much for a year and half till I got my PC upgraded with enough hardware to handle it. The PC port was a bit of a shit show. No one really talked about it much because they were busy raging about something else. When it could have been the shitty PC port of a major game by Rockstar after they had already delivered GTA 5 which was a pretty good PC port.

 

[The Last Stand]

I won $10 in online poker in RDO.

It was already left leaning so I doubt they will change it. The only thing I could see them changing is the NPC dialogues about Jews and how John Marston is working for the Jews.

My concern would be them adding new woke elements to the game. If it's a remake as it most likely will be they will have access to the whole RDR2 map. That leaves open a lot of possibilities for new annoying woke SJW BS to be added.

This again? I don't see them changing the story at all.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Real talk, the only possible major story change I can see is if R* decides to go all out, and fully encompass the lore of RDR2, and making it so you have to get every last gang member, or at least the ones the big ones introduced in that game, ie; Charles, and Sadie.

Yeah, this is a fucking pipedream, and has a ton of continuity issues (mainly being Charles is in Canada, and Sadie was unknown to the Pinkertons, and is South America, not to mention it all the plot rewriting it would cause) but if we're seriously talking about a major story change, I could see this one happening if the new RDR1 game is truly a remake because doing that, but not incoporating the shit from RDR2 would make no sense, and make that game feel even more like it takes place in a separate universe from the original than it already does.

 

[The Last Stand]

I can see poker being a casual risk/reward game mode to learn about poker and to relax in the world. I don't think there's many poker games on current/next gen.

I could see this one happening if the new RDR1 game is truly a remake because doing that, but not incoporating the shit from RDR2 would make no sense, and make that game feel even more like it takes place in a separate universe from the original than it already does.

It should have been Arthur as a standalone story. I don't think RDR1 was meant to be followed up. The events leading up to John finding his old game should've been left to interpretation.

 

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@Night Crawler wait, what are you blabbering out again?

 

[The Last Stand]

You can land on a horse from a height. You can refill a horse's core by pressing the left stick. You can use story on-call missions to refill ammo. You can farm Capitale in some blood money missions. I did not know these tidbits.

 

[Night Crawler]

@Night Crawler wait, what are you blabbering out again?

You figure it out.

 

[TVB]

You figure it out.

But I don't want to

 

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Rockstar is probably too worthless to do this, but I'd hope this RDR1 remake is made as a STANDALONE EXPANSION to RDR2, so that if you own RDR2 you can just launch it IN RDR2 and have access to an entire single map with Mexico in it. They ought to remake Undead Nightmare while they're at it too, may be too much to ask for though.

Mexico was the best part of RDR1.

It should have been Arthur as a standalone story. I don't think RDR1 was meant to be followed up. The events leading up to John finding his old game should've been left to interpretation.

I think that in some ways RDR2 being tied to RDR1 was a mistake as it took what felt like a plausible, movie-like background for John and blew it up into some big epic that overshadows him.

I just hope that RDR3 goes further back in time. This elegiac Western shit was old already after the first time, though I did like the Mafia vs Cowboys aspect of New Bordeaux. I want them to play it straight (or do one focused on Indians, though we know they can't because they wouldn't even let you shoot the inderinos in Ambarino) with a spaghetti/Golden Age western about Landon Rickets. And if they absolutely have to go forward in time with Jack Marston, I'd rather have it be Bonnie and Clyde/Dillinger like robbing across America in a Model-T than mafia crap.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

(or do one focused on Indians, though we know they can't because they wouldn't even let you shoot the inderinos in Ambarino)

As much as I know it's never going to happen, I would love RDR3 to focus on the Natives. For as much of an integral part of the Wild West as they were, they rarely get to do anything in media besides be props for misery porn, and given how much interesting, and badass history they have, that's just fucking bullshit.

Fuck an RDR3 where you play as a young!Dutch/Hosea/Mac/Davey/fucking Arthur again because his fanboys can't get his balls out of their mouths/etc. I want an RDR3 where you play as a Native, and if you have to make it some character from RDR2, make it a young!Rains Fall because even though we know how his story ends, there's enough still unknown to make an interesting game out of it.

 

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As much as I know it's never going to happen, I would love RDR3 to focus on the Natives. For as much of an integral part of the Wild West as they were, they rarely get to do anything in media besides be props for misery porn, and given how much interesting, and badass history they have, that's just fucking bullshit.

Fuck an RDR3 where you play as a young!Dutch/Hosea/Mac/Davey/fucking Arthur again because his fanboys can't get his balls out of their mouths/etc. I want an RDR3 where you play as a Native, and if you have to make it some character from RDR2, make it a young!Rains Fall because even though we know how his story ends, there's enough still unknown to make an interesting game out of it.

I figure a Red Dead protagonist is like the reverse of a sitting Republican president. That president is always the worst satanhitler we ever had and will destroy the country, until the next one comes along and suddenly that rethuglikkkan nazi is a dignified adult politician who the NEW hitler never could be. Likewise, John was the best vidya character ever written, then Arthur was the most wholesome chungus, as soon as they make RDR3 everyone will switch to sucking off whatever dude they pick for that. They are a fickle and mindless lot.

The real golden setting (if it was more historical, which RDR isn't) is Civil War Arizona, you've got Confederate Texas and Union Colorado dueling for the fate of the Southwest, France backing Maximiliano in Mexico across the border, Apaches, Navajo, and Comanches all rampaging at the same time. If you like Indians and clusterfucks that's the best setting you could possibly have for a Western.

 

[Night Crawler]

But I don't want to

The politics in the RDR games.

Rockstar is probably too worthless to do this, but I'd hope this RDR1 remake is made as a STANDALONE EXPANSION to RDR2, so that if you own RDR2 you can just launch it IN RDR2 and have access to an entire single map with Mexico in it. They ought to remake Undead Nightmare while they're at it too, may be too much to ask for though.

Mexico was the best part of RDR1.


I think that in some ways RDR2 being tied to RDR1 was a mistake as it took what felt like a plausible, movie-like background for John and blew it up into some big epic that overshadows him.

I just hope that RDR3 goes further back in time. This elegiac Western shit was old already after the first time, though I did like the Mafia vs Cowboys aspect of New Bordeaux. I want them to play it straight (or do one focused on Indians, though we know they can't because they wouldn't even let you shoot the inderinos in Ambarino) with a spaghetti/Golden Age western about Landon Rickets. And if they absolutely have to go forward in time with Jack Marston, I'd rather have it be Bonnie and Clyde/Dillinger like robbing across America in a Model-T than mafia crap.

I think the RDR1 remake will tie into RDR2. They will probably have characters mentioning what happened in RDR2. Those events did lead to what happened in RDR1. It would be great if they did a remake of Undead Nightmare. I played some of that and it was good. Riding across the countryside in the day with zombies just appearing is pretty freaky. It's shame that it's bugged and pretty much unplayable and Rockstar never fixed it.

Rockstar was kind of overdoing it with the RDR1 timeline. The game takes places in 1911 and the epilogue in 1914. But IRL the Wild West was pretty much dead by 1905. Even the Epilogue in RDR2 takes place in 1907 and that's just two years after the Wild West was over IRL. They can't go forward in time because RDR is a game series set in the American West. All they can do is go back in time. Trying to make it seem like the Wild West was still around in like the 1920's would just seem weird.

As much as I know it's never going to happen, I would love RDR3 to focus on the Natives. For as much of an integral part of the Wild West as they were, they rarely get to do anything in media besides be props for misery porn, and given how much interesting, and badass history they have, that's just fucking bullshit.

Fuck an RDR3 where you play as a young!Dutch/Hosea/Mac/Davey/fucking Arthur again because his fanboys can't get his balls out of their mouths/etc. I want an RDR3 where you play as a Native, and if you have to make it some character from RDR2, make it a young!Rains Fall because even though we know how his story ends, there's enough still unknown to make an interesting game out of it.

It would be interesting. But having "native Americans" as the main focus of the game would open the door to a lot of cringey leftist BS. It was already there in a small way in RDR1 and they had some of it in RDR2. I really don't want to spend the whole game getting preached at with some whitey bad and muh noble savage faggot shit.

There is a cool looking "native American" mod for RDR2 though.

https://youtu.be/a71HXxvC_jc

I figure a Red Dead protagonist is like the reverse of a sitting Republican president. That president is always the worst satanhitler we ever had and will destroy the country, until the next one comes along and suddenly that rethuglikkkan nazi is a dignified adult politician who the NEW hitler never could be. Likewise, John was the best vidya character ever written, then Arthur was the most wholesome chungus, as soon as they make RDR3 everyone will switch to sucking off whatever dude they pick for that. They are a fickle and mindless lot.

The real golden setting (if it was more historical, which RDR isn't) is Civil War Arizona, you've got Confederate Texas and Union Colorado dueling for the fate of the Southwest, France backing Maximiliano in Mexico across the border, Apaches, Navajo, and Comanches all rampaging at the same time. If you like Indians and clusterfucks that's the best setting you could possibly have for a Western.

I liked John and Arthur. Both are pretty good characters. I even liked some of the others as well. RDR2's Uncle is better than the Uncle in RDR1. In RDR1 he is kind of grumpy and shitty. In RDR2 he a lot happier and more pleasant.

 

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as the main focus of the game would open the door to a lot of cringey leftist BS.

There would definitely be a lot of retarded rightoid pushback too saying a game focusing on what happened to the Natives is gonna hurt white people's feefees, and make them feel bad about being white, or whatever shlock they try to pedal when topics like this try to be taught, or explored.

I say fuck both sides, and give me the game anyways.

 

[Night Crawler]

There would definitely be a lot of retarded rightoid pushback too saying a game focusing on what happened to the Natives is gonna hurt white people's feefees, and make them feel bad about being white, or whatever shlock they try to pedal when topics like this try to be taught, or explored.

I say fuck both sides, and give me the game anyways.

Probably not. I haven't heard of any right leaning people complaining. What would be good is they made the game that way and had some scientist character explain how the prairie niggers really aren't natives and how they immigrated from Asia/Siberia. That would be classic edgy Rockstar.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Probably not. I haven't heard of any right leaning people complaining.

I disagree. I've seen enough rightoids trying to fuck around with how this shit is taught in schools to know there'd be a good bit of them pissing, and moaning that a game focusing on Natives is gonna make some poor white kid feel bad about what their ancestors hypothetically did even though they're not personally responsible for it, and shouldn't feel any guilt over it.

But this is all beside the point. I want a Native game because it would be a fresh take on the Western that hasn't really been seen yet in vidya. The only game that comes close is the one called This Is My Land, and that one's been abandoned by its devs despite the main story being unfinished, and the game being a buggy mess.