🤝 Community Quiverfull Movement Lolcows - Starring the Duggars

[LonesomeDud]

Fantasyland, population: you. Also, officially, your original comment did in fact wind up being the dumbest thing I read today.


Some assholish church just canned their pastor for appearing on some drag show, dude. What the fuck are you talking about?

Regarding the Pedoclan: the fact DimBob would dare to even keep his fucking campaign going in the face of all their bullshit is just insane to me. Then again, I'm not a hypocritical, craven grifter who covers up pedo bullshit for a family member, either, so wtf do I know.

Without knowing exactly what happened, I can't really comment if it was wise to get rid of the pastor for that alone.

If I had to be gay, there's no country I'd rather be gay in than one of those. But the "Fantasyland" comment made me laugh.

The campaign thing was insane, but I think Jim Bob knew Josh was dead in the water, and he needs to put his money on a different heir to the throne. On the plus side, Jim Bob wasn't molesting his kids. He doesn't even consider them worth his full focus. For someone who loves the quiverful analogy, he certainly doesn't behave like his children are gifts from God.

 

[AnOminous]

Then again, the country club near my parents' home doesn't allow Jews or unmarried women to be members (and before you try to argue this with me, just because something is illegal on paper does not mean it never happens), so what do I know?

It's often not illegal to do that if they're organized as private clubs rather than places of public accommodation. They just have to be careful how they organize and operate. There are also still numerous golf clubs that discriminate in ways from the overt to the subtle.

A lot of times, this will cause a scandal and the club will be shamed into opening its membership, but there are plenty that literally just don't give a shit.

 

[Android raptor]

It's often not illegal to do that if they're organized as private clubs rather than places of public accommodation. They just have to be careful how they organize and operate. There are also still numerous golf clubs that discriminate in ways from the overt to the subtle.

A lot of times, this will cause a scandal and the club will be shamed into opening its membership, but there are plenty that literally just don't give a shit.

Private religious schools can and do the same stuff as well. My friend who went to PCC said being gay would gotten you instantly expelled..

 

[AnOminous]

Private religious schools can and do the same stuff as well. My friend who went to PCC said being gay would gotten you instantly expelled..

BYU in Utah also has a pretty strict "honor code" that sharply curtails sexual and other behaviors and requires living according to Mormon religious beliefs.

 

[LonesomeDud]

BYU in Utah also has a pretty strict "honor code" that sharply curtails sexual and other behaviors and requires living according to Mormon religious beliefs.

HA! I bet that's really effective. I can't hold it in my pants for a consecrecation I made with God, but my school said not to have sex, and that will surely be enough to chasten me!

 

[Crimewatcher 44]

I can't think of a conservative church that will cast you out for being gay, or specifically, having gay sex. There are a few reasons for this, but mainly, church is for broken people, so it doesn't really make sense to cast someone out for having sex with other adults.

Most churches in coastal states excommunicate people who come out as gay. Even some of the Methodist churches do it, despite the fact that Methodist churches elsewhere welcome them.

Not to mention that in many, many southern states coming out as gay will get you beaten up, if not killed.

The LDS church will excommunicate actively gay people. I can't think of other churches that treat memberships the way the LDS church does, kind of like a country club membership, but I'm pretty sure there are others that will cast out members for active homosexuality (gay sex, relationship, marriage, etc.).

Pentecostal and Southern Baptists still excommunicate gays.

 

[Situation Type Deal Gorl]

Without knowing exactly what happened, I can't really comment if it was wise to get rid of the pastor for that alone.

If only there were a tool one could use to find information on that. Yes, it was for that alone, and despite the weasel words about how exactly he left, it's clear he was fired for his appearance, in the "resign or be fired" way. If he'd been Catholic, they'd probably have just moved him to another parish like they do their pedos.

If I had to be gay, there's no country I'd rather be gay in than one of those.

Why? You think there could potentially be issues if you came out elsewhere, were you gay? I do recall someone saying there's no reason anyone should stay in the closet.

The campaign thing was insane, but I think Jim Bob knew Josh was dead in the water, and he needs to put his money on a different heir to the throne. On the plus side, Jim Bob wasn't molesting his kids. He doesn't even consider them worth his full focus. For someone who loves the quiverful analogy, he certainly doesn't behave like his children are gifts from God.

I wouldn't put anything past DimBob, including handsing his kids. Fundie nutters are creepy freakshows at the best of times and even when they're not packing a dozen or so people into the small house they had been living in .

 

[Hyacinth Bucket (Bouquet)]

The over-the-top criticism of the Dillards for being insufficiently trans-friendly is very Current Year.

This is a story about girls and young women being abused by heterosexual men. But what's really the most important part? Not the woman who was abused. What's most important is that some adult TIM who isn't involved at all might have gotten his feelings hurt.

 

[LonesomeDud]

If only there were a tool one could use to find information on that. Yes, it was for that alone, and despite the weasel words about how exactly he left, it's clear he was fired for his appearance, in the "resign or be fired" way. If he'd been Catholic, they'd probably have just moved him to another parish like they do their pedos.




Why? You think there could potentially be issues if you came out elsewhere, were you gay? I do recall someone saying there's no reason anyone should stay in the closet.



I wouldn't put anything past DimBob, including handsing his kids. Fundie nutters are creepy freakshows at the best of times and even when they're not packing a dozen or so people into the small house they had been living in .

Oh, he was fired, that's just a pretty radical offense for a one time swing and miss, even for romping around with the kids of people who said Desmond is Amazing's mom was wonderful. I also think it's pretty dismissive to engage in something like that when your church doesn't want it.

Yeah, implying it's the same in Africa as America being gay was pretty stupid on my part.

Jim Bob is a terrible guy, but not a molester. Arguably he's a rapist since he adheres to the idea that a woman can never say no, and I don't put that kind of aggression past him, but he couldn't muster the energy to beat Josh for raping his daughters.

Jim Bob is a guy who adheres to the letter of the law, but not the spirit. If I were a judge, I'd let you take Jimbo's hard drives in a warrant, but I don't expect CP.

 

[SituationTypeThing]

Oh, he was fired, that's just a pretty radical offense for a one time swing and miss, even for romping around with the kids of people who said Desmond is Amazing's mom was wonderful. I also think it's pretty dismissive to engage in something like that when your church doesn't want it.

So let's say this pastor was gay, that would be a good reason for him to stay in the closet, right? If his church was against it?

Rhetorical question, I'm not really trying to trap you in your own words. Just pointing out that there are lots of reasons why, even in the US, gay people might stay in the closet. Not everyone has the strength to walk away from their jobs, family, culture and everything they've ever known. Throw in a layer of fire and brimstone on top of it, and they'll fear they're going to hell not just for being gay but for also leaving the specific brand of religion to which they committed or in which they were raised.

I don't know what I'd do in that situation, but I have a feeling I would probably try to exist in the life I was conditioned to live for a really long time.

 

[Situation Type Deal Gorl]

The over-the-top criticism of the Dillards for being insufficiently trans-friendly is very Current Year.

Maybe they'll move on when that unicorn finally loses its shine.

This is a story about girls and young women being abused by heterosexual men. But what's really the most important part? Not the woman who was abused. What's most important is that some adult TIM who isn't involved at all might have gotten his feelings hurt.

Of course not - the rules in fundieland say that it's appropriate for the women to always get the short end of the stick, as it were. People need to refill that outrage tank by emptying another, like the trans stuff. It's just as cyclical as the cycles of some of the more well-known deathfats.

Oh, he was fired, that's just a pretty radical offense for a one time swing and miss, even for romping around with the kids of people who said Desmond is Amazing's mom was wonderful. I also think it's pretty dismissive to engage in something like that when your church doesn't want it.

What's funny to me is that most churches give second (and, third and fourth, and nth) chances for people to repent and atone for their sins, but a dude wearing makeup, big hair,and big boobs is a bridge too far. He was stupid for doing it, but by all accounts, well-liked in general and had no issues with the congregation or they with him. Just more hypocrisy to add to the sea of it surround religious institutions.

Jim Bob is a terrible guy, but not a molester. Arguably he's a rapist since he adheres to the idea that a woman can never say no, and I don't put that kind of aggression past him, but he couldn't muster the energy to beat Josh for raping his daughters.

Jim Bob is a guy who adheres to the letter of the law, but not the spirit. If I were a judge, I'd let you take Jimbo's hard drives in a warrant, but I don't expect CP.

While it wouldn't surprise me if he had gotten handsy, I wouldn't expect to find CP on his computer, either.

 

[AnOminous]

HA! I bet that's really effective. I can't hold it in my pants for a consecrecation I made with God, but my school said not to have sex, and that will surely be enough to chasten me!

Well they chuck your ass out which can be pretty inconvenient if you're three years into a degree.

 

[dirtydeanna96]

Private religious schools can and do the same stuff as well. My friend who went to PCC said being gay would gotten you instantly expelled..

i had a friend that went there. she said there were dinosaurs in the woods...

 

[kaien]

BYU in Utah also has a pretty strict "honor code" that sharply curtails sexual and other behaviors and requires living according to Mormon religious beliefs.

Dudes also can't grow their hair long or wear beards.

IIRC you couldn't even wear jeans on campus until the early 80s sometime.

 

[MysticMisty]

BYU in Utah also has a pretty strict "honor code" that sharply curtails sexual and other behaviors and requires living according to Mormon religious beliefs.

Do non-Mormons even attend BYU? Because I've never heard motivation yet for anyone but Mormons to even apply at BYU.

 

[RebatsivePulsard]

Well they chuck your ass out which can be pretty inconvenient if you're three years into a degree.

Not to mention permanently withholding transcripts, rendering your college years worthless.

 

[SituationTypeThing]

Do non-Mormons even attend BYU? Because I've never heard motivation yet for anyone but Mormons to even apply at BYU.

I think they have non-mormon athletes and unofficially waive the ecclesiastical endorsement requirement and honor code for them.

 

[BluntyBitch]

Headline: Duggarsnark no no longer snarky, is wholesome place now or something

How a Josh Duggar Subreddit Became a Forum for Sexual Trauma

Thousands of new people were drawn to r/DuggarsSnark in the wake of Josh Duggar's arrest, and a fascinating community was born.

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I didn't know Meech went to an eating disorder retreat but clearly the Duggars have weird issues with food ( like many fundies really) that meech likely instilled in them because she pushes her ED off on her kids

r/DuggarsSnark - Damn Michelle, you set a low bar (edited, thanks y’all!)

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[LonesomeDud]

Headline: Duggarsnark no no longer snarky, is wholesome place now or something

How a Josh Duggar Subreddit Became a Forum for Sexual Trauma

Thousands of new people were drawn to r/DuggarsSnark in the wake of Josh Duggar's arrest, and a fascinating community was born.

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I didn't know Meech went to an eating disorder retreat but clearly the Duggars have weird issues with food ( like many fundies really) that meech likely instilled in them because she pushes her ED off on her kids

r/DuggarsSnark - Damn Michelle, you set a low bar (edited, thanks y’all!)

945 votes and 116 comments so far on Reddit

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Michelle, like most women who've had more than eight kids, has some bodily changes like a waist that sets differently. I'm not surprised she'd conflate this with being fat.

So let's say this pastor was gay, that would be a good reason for him to stay in the closet, right? If his church was against it?

Rhetorical question, I'm not really trying to trap you in your own words. Just pointing out that there are lots of reasons why, even in the US, gay people might stay in the closet. Not everyone has the strength to walk away from their jobs, family, culture and everything they've ever known. Throw in a layer of fire and brimstone on top of it, and they'll fear they're going to hell not just for being gay but for also leaving the specific brand of religion to which they committed or in which they were raised.

I don't know what I'd do in that situation, but I have a feeling I would probably try to exist in the life I was conditioned to live for a really long time.

I consider you a friend and didn't take it as you trying to trap me. Criticism of what someone says isn't "entrapment."

Relative to his societal position, I think coming out as gay would probably be a smart move. And it's pretty separate from participating in anything affiliated with RuPaul's Drag Race.

People don't go to hell for gay sex. People go to hell for being unrepentant for their sins (all of them). If you're a pastor, you should have the wisdom to know the difference. If everyone just went to hell for sinning, I don't think your average homosexual could even afford a nosebleed section ticket in hell.

 

[BluntyBitch]

Michelle, like most women who've had more than eight kids, has some bodily changes like a waist that sets differently. I'm not surprised she'd conflate this with being fat.

Women who have EDs growing up or in highschool , especially religious judgemental people like Meech , will almost guaranteed push those unhealthy diet/body ideals off on their daughters (and sons) cuz clearly they're less likely to get real therapy for an ED . Has nothing to do with post preggo fatness. Meech was a damaged cheerleader harlot in high school . Meech is absolutely a judgey bitch, and nothing changed in her "fame" except learning to hide it better behind religion.

Anyone remember how she went off at TLC over one of the camera guys being gay? Something that she said something very antigay like yea not any Of those! And crew turned to camera guy ,2well so and so wouldn't know anything about that or anything!" And it dawned on meech and she lost her shit about hidden gays in her home and near her kids?

People don't go to hell for gay sex. People go to hell for being unrepentant for their sins (all of them). If you're a pastor, you should have the wisdom to know the difference. If everyone just went to hell for sinning, I don't think your average homosexual could even afford a nosebleed section ticket in hell.

Consider that for those of us who are not Xtians or even religious, that all this talk of hell is silly. It's a MAN made concept, just like who gets in (lol, I want the imaginative section with the best coffee , can I build up enuf karma points for entry? I want the table where all the artists and writers and foul mouthed musicians are!) but glad you're here to set us dumb bitches straight!

JimBoob has a problem with Calvinists, over religious arguments of "Jesus for evrryon, anytime, it's never too late" vs Calvinist "well you're actually chosen by God to be saved, some ppl are unsavable so just accept they are not blessed by God to be chosen to be saved" bullshit . Ben is the Calvinist right? Or was that jingers soccer guy pastor person?

Or arguing over Satan cuz that's the same thing

If you're trying to say this weird concept "fear of hell" is enuf for straights or gays to like change their behaviors, then u missed the part where being a part of a religious club gives a person POWER and authority over others, all that big dick energy. Has nothing to do with religion or beliefs. Look at how many bad apples are in any religious community. All any religion club does is breed hypocracy.

A good person is a good person to others without religion, that part isn't necessary to be a good person.