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All I did was extend that to saying ALL pedos are not brainwashed and a bunch of pedo apologists came out of the woodwork to tell me how wrong and stupid I am, and how if you AHKSHUALLY read Rousseau and Locke you’d learn that being a pedophile is what True Enlightened Thinkers do.

These threads never fail to deliver us new revelations on just how many undercover pedos are lurking among us.
Literally no one said any of that. Your reading comprehension is atrocious. Just move on.
 
It is brainwashing since the natural state of human beings doesn’t include stopping at red lights, wearing clothes, or even speech. All of those things are learned behavior, which society seeks to instill on people. Read Rousseau. Like seriously, read Rousseau.
No, that's just teaching & learning. The natural state of humanity also does not include the difference between poisonous or edible berries in the wild, but you'll die if you don't know it & it's generally better if someone tells it to you than if you try it yourself. That's not brainwashing, not even close.

I'm not reading your faggot brainlet philosopher either.
 
You want to live in a society with child marriage? That’s even worse.
I do not. And because enough people agree with me in the greater community that the social contract finds it immoral to marry a child, we take legal measures to try to prevent it. You have the reading comprehension of a fourth grader at best, because the points I'm making just go over your head. The social contract that the Duggars and their ilk operate inside of in a cult finds ways to make this sort of behavior acceptable, because they all agree that it isn't a terrible sin. They have other things they see as a horrific sin, and focus on them instead. Morality isn't an absolute, it's something you buy into or you do not on a society by society basis. I do not buy into the values of their fucked up cult because I do not see those values as conductive to a society that protects the individual, the weak, those who cannot advocate for themselves, and seeks to ensure that people are treated as they agree to be treated, ensure that people are free to do as they please without infringing on others without their consent or agreement in the social contract, and otherwise promote a society that functions rationally.

No, that's just teaching & learning. The natural state of humanity also does not include the difference between poisonous or edible berries in the wild, but you'll die if you don't know it & it's generally better if someone tells it to you than if you try it yourself. That's not brainwashing, not even close.

I'm not reading your faggot brainlet philosopher either.
Refusing to read Rousseau should disqualify you from having any takes on politics or the US constitution ever. It's a fundamental part of the Enlightenment philosophy that this nation was built on. Fuck off back to A&H.
 
Yo can we get back to celebrating the Pest Arrest&Conviction?

I assume Anna and the kids went back to the shack they live in on the Duggar compound. Really hope those kids have contact with someone other than their brainwashed mom and JB and Meech, like I hope Anna isnt turning down any olive branches from Jill and Derrick. But unfortunately JB is probably going to try to tighten control on them since he's a narcissist and his golden boy is officially off to federal prison.
 
Repression in itself isn't bad. Swinging to total permissibility ruins everyone's fun too. But if you tighten a spring too much, it's going to thwack you in the face and it's gonna hurt.

But yeah, fuck child abusers. Whether you're a euphoric, blue-haired fatso, or a Christfag like me, we can all agree that predators should be isolated and punished.
There's a middle ground between banning all things fun and allowing your child to do whatever they want. It's called normal parenting.
 
I do not. And because enough people agree with me in the greater community that the social contract finds it immoral to marry a child, we take legal measures to try to prevent it. You have the reading comprehension of a fourth grader at best, because the points I'm making just go over your head. The social contract that the Duggars and their ilk operate inside of in a cult finds ways to make this sort of behavior acceptable, because they all agree that it isn't a terrible sin. They have other things they see as a horrific sin, and focus on them instead. Morality isn't an absolute, it's something you buy into or you do not on a society by society basis. I do not buy into the values of their fucked up cult because I do not see those values as conductive to a society that protects the individual, the weak, those who cannot advocate for themselves, and seeks to ensure that people are treated as they agree to be treated, ensure that people are free to do as they please without infringing on others without their consent or agreement in the social contract, and otherwise promote a society that functions rationally.


Refusing to read Rousseau should disqualify you from having any takes on politics or the US constitution ever. It's a fundamental part of the Enlightenment philosophy that this nation was built on. Fuck off back to A&H.
Here’s my social contract: stop diddling kids.

The term brainwashing didn’t even exist in Rousseau’s time. You’re the one connecting his philosophy with brainwashing. Sounds like you’re just bringing in names to make yourself look smart.
 
Yo can we get back to celebrating the Pest Arrest&Conviction?

I assume Anna and the kids went back to the shack they live in on the Duggar compound. Really hope those kids have contact with someone other than their brainwashed mom and JB and Meech, like I hope Anna isnt turning down any olive branches from Jill and Derrick. But unfortunately JB is probably going to try to tighten control on them since he's a narcissist and his golden boy is officially off to federal prison.
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Yeah. From what I've heard, Anna and the M&Ms went back to the industrial barn on the compound. I suspect, now that Josh has been convicted of felonious crimes against children, a child welfare/protection department will step in and investigate/evaluate Anna and the M&Ms. For one, IIRC, Josh's parental rights could be terminated. The State will make an evaluation and decide if Anna is "morally fit" to maintain custody of the children (and...she most likely will be deemed fit). They transferred some property and businesses into Anna's possession back in the spring, so I assume she's also facing a forensic accounting.
 
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I can see both points in cult like environments normalizing behaviors that larger society would deem deviant or wrong. And yes - I believe that joshes upbringing likely played some contributing factors to the Psychology of why he is so aroused by taboo/forbidden material. If josh grew up in a “normal” upbringing would he have fingered his sisters? Who knows but it is much more likely he would have developed healthier attachments and romantic interests to peers his own age.
Regardless of that conversation Josh without a doubt knew in his later life outside his childhood (and really probably even during his childhood) what he was doing was wrong. He knows he’s a disgusting pedo coom brain that was causing harm. And while I agree that societally we are conditioned in a lot of ways of what is and isn’t morale. There are more agency to personal morality than “do what my neighbor is doing”. Questioning morality is - in itself - a lot of how societal moves forward. (Or backwards depending on how you feel).
Anyways, I’m just punching air now lol.

Basically what I wanted to say is being raised in a cult where this shit was normalized or not. When josh was wanking it on his computer to CP he knew damn well what he was doing was very dirty and I suspect he got off on that.

Also ethics and morality can be discussed with reasoning. Take an ethics class to challenge yourself. It’s not black and white. Morality, compassion, logic… ect… aren’t as distant neighbors as you think they are.

(This was aimed at nobody in particular just me bored and typing my opinions)
 
Because the typical values of larger society are seen as corrupt by the cult, the values of good and evil within the cult change. This is brainwashing, and you seem to be too dumb to understand that. These cults have this fundimental set of rules.

1) Bad things are the influence of Satan or divine punishment for your sins

2) God wants women to be completely obedient to men.

3) Women should be modest and avoid provoking the lust of men

4) Men cheating is the fault of the woman as they were not sexually appealing enough.

This leads to cognitive fuckery. So while you and I see a man cheating on his wife as a failure of the man, cults like this see it as “Satan told that man to cheat, and he listened, but his wife didn’t do enough to stop him from giving into Satan and cheating so she’s more responsible.”

This sort of thinking also firmly places a big chunk of the responsibility on the victim - the wife. The wife who did nothing wrong. Who now gets punished for not being obedient enough.

In other words, while the man did a bad thing, he did it because an evil entity made him do it, he didn’t want to do it at all!

This breeds abuse like crazy, because the locus of control for responsibility is completely chucked out the window. While controlling everything the men can claim they have no control, while the women without any control believe they’re responsible. So to these fundies, while Josh did something horrible and wrong, the blame resides less on him and more on his wife and in the victims of his abuse. And thus they should forgive him because he wasn’t acting on his own control - Satan made him do it.

As a victim, it’s also an implication that God wanted you to suffer like this. Remember also that you’ve been taught that God is never ever wrong. So you must, must have done something wrong to be the victim. And the community of fundies often stresses that you’re responsible. Where’s the pamphlet these crazies use to try and explain why god is fine with sexual assault? Someone link that again, because obviously people haven’t read it in this thread yet who really need to.
I just linked it yesterday but here and here.

And yes, there are plenty of fucked up environmental factors, often very much fostered by cults, that breed abuse of every variety, including Pedo shit. Places where the victims are blamed breed silence and make it easy for shitheads to operate. That's what makes cults bad. This is a controversial statement now? This has to be a troll.
 
I just linked it yesterday but here and here.

And yes, there are plenty of fucked up environmental factors, often very much fostered by cults, that breed abuse of every variety, including Pedo shit. Places where the victims are blamed breed silence and make it easy for shitheads to operate. That's what makes cults bad. This is a controversial statement now? This has to be a troll.
I don’t think he’s a troll. I think he’s just retarded.
 
Cousin Famy threw shade at Jana on instagram, then immediately backpedaled 8b6yq774jy481.jpeg ngrbz0eytz481.jpeg
 
Oh, it's on his campaign website.

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His family has faced "problems" and this is all "fake news," guys. And this shit is on STILL on there, with the election on Tuesday. So it's reasonable to presume he still stands by it.

I can't believe I have to do this, but in keeping with "Kiwi protocol": Archive.

News articles from last month about this too:

I don’t want him involved in politics because he allowed his teenage son to touch his younger daughters, swept the whole deal under the rug like it was nothing, and now wants to blame cancel culture and the left for not wanting him in politics.

I don’t want him in politics because he claims to want crimes against children to be capital crimes unless it is his child doing the criminal act.

Fuck you jimbob you’re a fucking hypocrite.

Your daughters deserve a better father and arkansas deserves a better politician.
 
What the actual fuck is up with TLC creating shows around dysfunctional families with closeted paedophiles? First Honey Boo Boo and now this? While I'm glad that Josh Duggar is in jail now, there is one thing I'm legitimately terrified about: the possibility that the Duggar girls will end up getting groomed by another man in their lives later down the line.

Honey Boo Boo is 16 now and she's "dating" a 20yo who's unapologetic about committing statutory. Just saying man, what's stopping the other Duggar girls from ending up like Honey Boo Boo a good 10 or so years down the line?
And don't forget The Willis Family, another large family-show TLC flushed down the memory hole in record time after Papa Willis turned out to be a rapist.

All the kids had the same "J" names like the Duggars, there were 12 of them.

edit: the tabloid account
 
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I want to live in a society where all these retards stop shitting up my fundie drama thread with dozens of pages of irrelevant, off-topic, pseudo-intellectual bullshit "debate"
As a dual-citizen of both Beauty Parlor and the Thunderdome, I sincerely apologize for the exceptionalism shown at the hands of the gullible, trolls, and general retards.❤

I don’t want him involved in politics because he allowed his teenage son to touch his younger daughters, swept the whole deal under the rug like it was nothing, and now wants to blame cancel culture and the left for not wanting him in politics.

I don’t want him in politics because he claims to want crimes against children to be capital crimes unless it is his child doing the criminal act.

Fuck you jimbob you’re a fucking hypocrite.

Your daughters deserve a better father and arkansas deserves a better politician.
Lance Eads, who left his seat to pursue a career as a lobbyist, was rather unpopular. Jim Bob Duggar is even more despised.

Jim Bob is running against 3 evangelical conservatives in the Republican primary: Colby Fulfner is a Springdale Chief of staff fundie-lite, Edge Nowlin retired from IBM but is a classic boomer evangelical, Steven Unger retired from the Navy with multiple jobs including as a Chaplin. The Democrat candidates are Lisa Parks, family attorney, and Derek Van Voast, a coach.

There's not any way in hell Jim Bob has a chance. He's getting clowned on hard online. It's funny he claims he isn't a politician when he was one before in the 90's and early 2000's.

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Edit: Jim Bob's campaign issued another pathetic statement. Screenshot_20211211-201718_Facebook.jpg
 
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