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The Duggars are so much fun.

Pretty good Daily Mail on the Duggars with some great tidbits of what Josh diwnloaded. (Long post but worth it)

Also, So JimBoob is apparently getting called by the prosecution? I'm not sure how all that works, is it just who sopoenad him first or something? I'd imagine Boob has his own lawyer. Does Arkie allow "independent" witnesses? Or is that not allowed in fed cases?

Michelle read this great book about how Christianity is Under Attack! Bitch it's not your religion, you're a bad mom and your son's a fucking predator.


Michelle doesn't understand was "assault" means . I thought she went to public school and could actually read? But I guess reading comprehension must go down with all the calcium she's lost from pumping out all those kids or something, or maybe it's when the vagina becomes a clown car it basically feeds off the brain in retaliation right?

Ok back to Josh, some tidbits of juicy shit

Some select paragraphs the article:

When a raid was carried out on his car dealership later in 2009, Josh allegedly asked agents: 'What is this about? Has someone been downloading child pornography?'

Josh was asked about having child porn in his possession and he allegedly responded: 'I'd rather not answer that question.'

A detective on the case claimed she was able to locate two files: a zip folder containing 65 image files of naked girls aged between seven and nine, and a two minute video of a similarly-aged girl being raped by an adult man.

(^so if the pizza is just naked girl pics and the pics they're not actively engaged in a sexual act (or sexual pose?) Is that like treated less bad or something?)

According to a 2006 police report unearthed by InTouch Weekly in 2015, Josh's behavior was first discovered in March of 2002, when one of his youngest sisters went to Jim Bob 'very upset and crying.'

(^any Duggar family historians that can clock the ages of his sisters at that time?)

The sister said that Josh had been sneaking into the shared girls' bedroom and touching her breasts and genitals while she slept on four or five occasions. Once, she woke up while he was taking a blanket away from her.

Josh then admitted to doing so when confronted by Jim Bob and was 'disciplined,' though Jim Bob didn't reveal what the discipline entailed.

In March of 2003, 'there was another incident,' according to the police report, with Josh being accused by several minors of similar sexual touching. On one occasion, he was reading to a little sister on his lap and touched her 'breasts and vaginal area. On another, he cornered one of his sisters in the laundry room and put his hand under her dress.

However, Jim Bob and Michelle did not initially go to the police, keeping the molestation allegations and Josh's confessions a secret until a tip was made to the Arkansas State Police Child Abuse Hotline about Josh's behavior and forced their hand.

Finally speaking to police on Dec. 12, 2006, Jim Bob said when he learned about what his son was doing, he 'met with the elders of his church and told them what was going on.'

They suggested a particular treatment program at Vista Hospital, but Jim Bob was concerned that Josh would be 'exposed to other offenders and other things they did not want him exposed to.

(^does Vista still have a treatment program for juvies and can u just check your kids into it without an active court case?)

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When he was a teenager, Josh admitted to molesting four of his younger sister, who were later identified as Jill, Jessa, Jinger, and Joy Anna
Instead, they sent Josh to a Christian program that consisted of 'hard physical work and counseling from March 17, 2003 to July 17, 2003

(Blunty bitch here personally hopes this above fam pic is used to show the jury the youngest 4 that were abused by Josh, I think when the jury sees how small and defenseless they were they won't hesitate to throw his ass in prison. The prosecution could label this fam pic file evidence "How It Started.")

Jim Bob and Michelle also told the local police that Josh had 'apologized' to his victims and said they had 'forgiven' him, and when he came home they believed the issue had been 'resolved.'

When Josh came home from the Christian counseling program, his parents had him talk to Arkansas State Trooper Jim Hutchens, who gave him a 'very stern talk.'

Hutchens, 75, was later imprisoned on child pornography charges of his own, and has been in jail since 2007. He was sentences to 56 years.

!!!JIMBOOB IS A PEDO APOLOGIST EVERYONE , no wow really needed right?

(^Has the report of Hutchins version ever been made public? I seem to recall he just said he was an acquaintance.)

(^i thought that it was revealed Josh was just shipped away to help some family friend that builds houses or remodels because Put Him To Work and that'll make him stop molesting! Pretty sure it was established he did Zero christian counseling.)

When the police report describing Josh's transgressions was made public in 2015, two of his sisters — Jill, 29, and Jessa, 28 — identified themselves as two of his victims. Later, in 2017, Jinger and Joy were identified as the other victims in a lawsuit.

(^Is this because Jinger and Joy were only outed when the report was made public? I know all 4 are suing so I'm not sure the timeline for that, or they were the only two that identified themselves?)

Jim Bob, Michelle, Jill, and Jessa all sat down for an interview with Megyn Kelly to discuss what happened — and some viewers were left alarmed by the way the parents tried to minimize their son's behavior.

'He was still a kid, you know, and he was still a juvenile. He wasn't an adult,' Jim Bob said. 'Kids will make their own choices.

'[Josh] had gone in and just basically touched them over their clothes while they were sleeping,' he went on, adding that there were 'a couple incidents where he touched them under their clothes, but it was, like, a few seconds.

WOW
DON'T LIARS GO TO HELL JIMBOOB???!!????

'God can forgive [Josh] for these terrible things, I hope other people realize God can forgive them and also make them a new creature,' he said.

He also seemed to imply that a brother molesting his sisters was common, saying: 'We talked to other parents and different ones since then, a lot of families have said that they've had similar things happen in their families.'

(^Wow, the insight into these fundies and why they have such high numbers of incest and sexual assault is flooring.)

'The last few years, while publicly stating I was fighting against immorality in our country, I was hiding my own personal failings. As I am learning the hard way, we have the freedom to choose to our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. I deeply regret all hurt I have caused so many by...


So JimBoobs primary election is Dec 14, so Josh's trial will put allllll the fam skeletons out there prior to election.

JimBoob finally got his website like fixed up, cuz he threw it together with like no platforms or anything when he decided to run, so that seems a little sussy that He was considering a run for office but then wasn't prepared at all, which says to me he's doing it purely to keep the spotlight off his son. I mean he'd like to have the power of being elected too i suppose lol.

Also, he's the typical profam prolife progun pro small business while the others have more specific economic platforms or mention antiCRT in schools. But the duggars homeschooled because they want nothing to do with public school, so why would he care right? But he says that "healthcare should be left to the parents."

Just come down hard on this transing in school nonsense JimBoob, you'd actually have a good chance of getting elected!

The majority of people in Arkie do public school so Boobie ignoring that on his platform stuff probably won't help him. Homeschooled kids are in the minority even in Arkie. Why would the plebs vote for a Boob? They can vote for the turd sandwich instead that's at least hard Anti CRT, which the parents actually care about.

So, in closing, I think Boobs run for office is a Trainwreck and I am enjoying watching it tip along and fall off the tracks completely. :):):)
 
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@BluntyBitch

It won’t let me quote you, but in 2002 Jill was 11, Jessa 10, Jinger 9 and Joy only 5 (FFS, 5).
I do believe IIRC that Joy and Jinger were outed when the report was made public because the redactions were so poorly done that it wasn’t difficult to figure out who the victims were.

I know it’s said that Jana and the younger girls were apparently not Pedo Josh’s victims but I would not in the slightest be surprised if he hadn’t been gross and inappropriate at least somewhere along the line with them, seeing that as the golden child he just got a slap on the wrist from his shitbag parents and then quickly married off to Anna (who was/is dumber than a box of rocks for staying and breeding with that fucker) in an attempt to “cure” him.
 
Maisie.

Anyways, the belief in Duggar fan circles is that the girl who went to Jim Bob was actually Jill. At Jill and Derick's wedding, Josh gave a speech and mocked Jill for being "a snitch" and her reaction was basically: "😐."

Granted this is just speculation, but it would not shock me at this point. Also apparently before Jill stopped drinking the kool-aid, she was Jim Bob's favorite daughter, so if any of the girls were going to go to him, it makes sense that it would be her. If you watch the old show and read up on some stuff, she was always the most "all in" on the Fundie lifestyle. Even Jana was apparently an energetic tomboy as a kid before it was parentified out of her (something that Jill kind of implied in an Instagram post) while Jill was just a naturally reserved kid with a heavy people-pleasing instinct. Out of all the girls, she was the last any of the fans expected to break free.

It is also very clear that she was genuinely traumatized by the experience. Victims can react in wildly different ways. There was this one episode of the show that kind of gives it away in hindsight. In one episode, a couple of the older girls have to get dental surgery under anesthesia. And while Jana (not a victim) was cool, Jill started sobbing and breaking down when they started sedating her. Jim Bob was all, "Well, she has a fear of pain." No, you asshole, she has a trauma trigger to being touched while unconscious, because your son molested her in her bed.

(Edit cuz my post got cut off mid sentence and then because I remembered it was Jana who also got surgery, not Jessa or Jinger.)
 
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Don't give them ideas for an 8th kid.

Plus is it a bible name?

Do Arkie fed prisons have conjugals? Is he even able to knock up Anna in some kind of prison sex trailer or something?

It's funny to me thinking of goodie two shoes meek Anna in a musty concrete building being bent over some chair or desk or some dirty mattress all the other inmates use and either have to turn off her brain during sex cuz it's Fer Jesus! Or trying to stay somehow turned on to keep enuf vagjuice going so she isn't dry, cuz prison prolly don't supply lube

Ugh, I just ruined whatever appetite I just had
 
Okay so because I was just reminded of that episode where Jill and Jana got their teeth pulled, here are some images from it. And holy shit is it heartbreaking to watch knowing what we know. But just in case anyone has any illusions that Rim Job and Meech cared about their daughters' feelings instead of trying to pretend everything is fine and they're just irrational...

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Oh, and btw - the surgery wasn't necessary. The girls didn't need to get their wisdom teeth removed. And the two idiots brought Jill to see Jana high off her ass, which of course freaked Jill out even more. And while she was still recovering they of course parked a baby next to her because the two reproduction units couldn't handle a single afternoon of taking care of their brood themselves. This shit is why despite disagreeing with her on pretty much everything, I can't help but have a soft spot for Jill. I want to just reach into the screen, tear her out of there, wrap her in a blanket with some hot cocoa, and call ALL of the therapists.
 
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Didn’t they also have the big girls share queen size beds with the little girls? It adds an extra layer of fucked up to Josh molesting them.
I think the younger kids did have beds of their own, but the little ones often did sleep with the sister moms. Despite what Jim Bob says, boys were also allowed in the girls' room, at least the very young ones were. There are shots in the show of some of the youngest boys climbing into bed with their "buddies."
 
eta: Article on his evidentiary hearing and what will happen Nov 29, the day before his trial starts. The judge has yet to rule on if molestation can be used.

Who is Bobye Holt???


"A second witness, Bobye Holt, is also expected to testify. Holt was a friend of the Duggar family in the early 2000s. According to several sources, Josh admitted that he had inappropriately touched several of his sisters to Holt. Holt would likely also testify at the evidentiary hearing. The prosecution didn’t reveal if the elder Duggar or Holt would testify at Josh Duggar’s trial."

Does anyone think it will come out who "Alice" is,the person that was described on Reddit that contacted the Oprah show that Josh was a molester and had raped/,assaulted the girl from his church and the shaved head punishment thing that happened? (And then Oprah execs contacted the feds who then approached Boob and then the InTouch got the reports unsealed and publicized, that's my memory of the timeline at least)

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eta: Article on his evidentiary hearing and what will happen Nov 29, the day before his trial starts. The judge has yet to rule on if molestation can be used.

Who is Bobye Holt???


"A second witness, Bobye Holt, is also expected to testify. Holt was a friend of the Duggar family in the early 2000s. According to several sources, Josh admitted that he had inappropriately touched several of his sisters to Holt. Holt would likely also testify at the evidentiary hearing. The prosecution didn’t reveal if the elder Duggar or Holt would testify at Josh Duggar’s trial."

Does anyone think it will come out who "Alice" is,the person that was described on Reddit that contacted the Oprah show that Josh was a molester and had raped/,assaulted the girl from his church and the shaved head punishment thing that happened? (And then Oprah execs contacted the feds who then approached Boob and then the InTouch got the reports unsealed and publicized, that's my memory of the timeline at least)

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Good for Holt. At least one former Duggar acquaintance is willing to talk about how Josh's kiddie diddling was an open secret at their church.

Josh is fucked, and Jimbo's desperate attempt to distract the public with another bid for office is pathetic
 
Good for Holt. At least one former Duggar acquaintance is willing to talk about how Josh's kiddie diddling was an open secret at their church.

Josh is fucked, and Jimbo's desperate attempt to distract the public with another bid for office is pathetic
One of the Holt daughters left a supportive comment on the I Pray You Put This Journal Away podcast and described their cult as a "culture of shame." It was the Holt daughter that Josh was supposedly courting at the time.
 
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One of the Holt daughters left a supportive comment on the I Pray You Put This Journal Away podcast and described their cult as a "culture of shame." It was the Holt daughter that Josh was supposedly courting at the time.
Any screenshits?

Ihad a sneaky suspicion that this was one of the families
that either had a daughter assaulted by him and the whole head shaving saga, or one if the families that left the church after all that Bs, from what I remember from reading in Reddit.

When do we get the fundie mafia arc? Those are always fun.
 
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Any screenshits?

Ihad a sneaky suspicion that this was one of the families
that either had a daughter assaulted by him and the whole head shaving saga, or one if the families that left the church after all that Bs, from what I remember from reading in Reddit.

When do we get the fundie mafia arc? Those are always fun.
Ask and ye shall receive.

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Good for Holt. At least one former Duggar acquaintance is willing to talk about how Josh's kiddie diddling was an open secret at their church.

Josh is fucked, and Jimbo's desperate attempt to distract the public with another bid for office is pathetic
The Holts aren't much better than the Duggars. They only severed their ties with them back in 2012 over backing Santorum vs Romney.
 
One of the Holt daughters left a supportive comment on the I Pray You Put This Journal Away podcast and described their cult as a "culture of shame." It was the Holt daughter that Josh was supposedly courting at the time.
This was the same Holt family whose patriarch was running for some sort of local or state office and Josh helped on the campaign, right? The "sin in the camp" story? I ask because I've always doubted the unofficial narrative that Josh was "caught looking at porn" on a campaign computer or something. You just know all these fundy men look at porn; they wouldn't have punished a male golden child for that imo. I've always felt the "sin in the camp" was either viewing CSAM or molesting someone he wasn't related to -- someone who wouldn't have covered for him.
 
This was the same Holt family whose patriarch was running for some sort of local or state office and Josh helped on the campaign, right? The "sin in the camp" story? I ask because I've always doubted the unofficial narrative that Josh was "caught looking at porn" on a campaign computer or something. You just know all these fundy men look at porn; they wouldn't have punished a male golden child for that imo. I've always felt the "sin in the camp" was either viewing CSAM or molesting someone he wasn't related to -- someone who wouldn't have covered for him.
Yup.

He lost his run for Lieutenant Governor of Arkansas.

Of course it was blamed on "sin in the camp" and not that he was on the outs with the majority of the Arkansas GOP at the time.
 
The judge ordered no phones or tablets or recording devices in courtroom for Josh's trial, which starts Tuesday. There is still an evidentiary hearing on Monday and we'll know if his molestation history can be used.

So I assume no Live zoom because it's federal? No news cameras, just a sketchie?

@latter day taint, sorry I can't reply or quote you

Wow fundies just have a way of throwing other people under the bus for... Well everything. They never Wana take responsibility for anything, which is so funny considering "family values" is spose to mean like being responsible and honest.

If you lost the election, it was because you didn't get enuf votes. Oh but a sinner in my campaign really made me lose! It's all up to God! Josh Duggar made me lose favor with God so I lost the election!

No wonder they blame the meek women when the men rape them
 
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The judge ordered no phones or tablets or recording devices in courtroom for Josh's trial, which starts Tuesday. There is still an evidentiary hearing on Monday and we'll know if his molestation history can be used.

So I assume no Live zoom because it's federal? No news cameras, just a sketchie?

@latter day taint, sorry I can't reply or quote you

Wow fundies just have a way of throwing other people under the bus for... Well everything. They never Wana take responsibility for anything, which is so funny considering "family values" is spose to mean like being responsible and honest.

If you lost the election, it was because you didn't get enuf votes. Oh but a sinner in my campaign really made me lose! It's all up to God! Josh Duggar made me lose favor with God so I lost the election!

No wonder they blame the meek women when the men rape them
Taking responsibility as a community would mean admitting there is a problem with the lifestyle. Can't have that.
 
Any interesting Thanksgiving posts from any of the Duggars, or word on how Pest spent hopefully his last Thanksgiving outside federal prison?

And yeah, defending and enabling sex pest is deeply intertwined in religious fundamentalism of all varieties. Thinking women and children exist to be obedient to men naturally results in abusive men getting a free pass to diddle kids to their hearts content. I feel like there's probably sex pests who became involved with fundies specifically for that reason.
 
Any interesting Thanksgiving posts from any of the Duggars, or word on how Pest spent hopefully his last Thanksgiving outside federal prison?

And yeah, defending and enabling sex pest is deeply intertwined in religious fundamentalism of all varieties. Thinking women and children exist to be obedient to men naturally results in abusive men getting a free pass to diddle kids to their hearts content. I feel like there's probably sex pests who became involved with fundies specifically for that reason.
No one in the fold has posted anything about Thanksgiving in the big house. Josiah and his wife also scrubbed their instagram of all photos of their daughter in the past week or two; rumor is that this was done in the run-up to the trial for some reason. Make of that what you will.

Even Jessa, who is permitted to live with Bin and kids "on-campus" so to speak, seems to have gone to her in-laws home for the holiday. Janna, who still lives in the big house, posted nothing for the holiday.
 
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