Proof that Catholicism is true

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Senior Lexmechanic said:
1. The man engaged in astrology, self-professed. Read his own letters. Reading omens in the sky is one of the specific biblical definitions of witchcraft. Just because a Protestant accuses someone of sin doesn't mean they are blameless. Use the brain God gave you for once.
2. Not all things you think in contemplation are true: indeed, in contemplation myself I have often faced my inner demons masquerading as angels. Revelation is always, in every record of saint and prophet, vouchsafed in ecstatic vision, or accompanied by a miracle. I defy you to find a record that contradicts this.
3. With this, once more I say unto you: testify to the mark that shows this is divine revelation, and not the echo of your ego off the back of your skull, or a seductive vision from the Prince of Lies.
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I made a post on Catholic Answers and according to the users there, divine revelation can come in many forms at any time.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
1. You made a good point about Nostradamus.
2. I will ask if revelation is always given in ecstatic vision or accompanied by a miracle on Catholic Answers in order to see if I had divine revelation. What is true according to revelation experienced by many mystics is that regardless of whether my plans work or not, eventually there will be an era of prosperity for the Church where rightful Catholic monarchy in England and Europe will be restored since there will be a Last Roman Emperor ruling over the monarchs of Europe.
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Jacob Harrison said:
I made a post on Catholic Answers and according to the users there, divine revelation can come in many forms at any time.
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You are turning to an online answer board regarding this? When I have theological questions, I speak to my pastor. If he is stumped, he recommends I talk to a friend of his who holds a doctorate in Catholic Theology and is a member of the Order of Preachers (aka the Dominican monks). The last place I would turn for advise is an online site.
I suppose there is no saving one who runs gleefully into Satan's arms because he would rather hear honeyed lies over bitter truths.
 
Senior Lexmechanic said:
You are turning to an online answer board regarding this? When I have theological questions, I speak to my pastor. If he is stumped, he recommends I talk to a friend of his who holds a doctorate in Catholic Theology and is a member of the Order of Preachers (aka the Dominican monks). The last place I would turn for advise is an online site.
I suppose there is no saving one who runs gleefully into Satan's arms because he would rather hear honeyed lies over bitter truths.
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What confuses me is that earlier in this thread you were an atheist who criticized the morals of Christianity. Did you convert recently?
 
Senior Lexmechanic said:
Cite where I said I was an atheist, please.
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I assumed you were because of your Anti Christian comments. Here is one of them.
Senior Lexmechanic said:
Incorrect, animals do not have spiritual souls and lack spiritual existence. They do not go to heaven or hell because they cease to be upon death. This is basic Catholic doctrine, and you are wholly ignorant of it.

Miracles can be explained as coincidence, delusion, or the work of evil spirits. A religion should be judged on the strength of its logical arguments, and in that case, the teachings of the Buddha are the most worthy faith, as they are based on reason and observation about the world.
The principles of reason also show that your conception of God is unworthy of worship. Let us say there are two men: the first lives a life without harming another living soul. His every breath in life is devoted to benevolence, peace, and the ending of suffering. He does not eat meat, gives all he makes that he does not need to live to the poor, does not drink or swear or do any other thing to abuse his body or others, and has not even had an evil thought pass into his mind. However, he lived in a circumstance where he could have become Catholic and did not, because his one exposure to the faith was an evil and lecherous priest.
The second man is a drunk, a rapist, a thief, and a murderer. Throughout all of his life, he has abused others and himself. He is a vile and debased creature, a stain upon the earth. However, as he lay on his deathbed, he called for a priest, gave confession, and begged God for forgiveness.
According to your own faith and your own words, the first man will be sent to Hell and suffer eternally because he did not submit to the will of the evil priest and become baptized, while the second will go to heaven. It is clear, then, that virtue and vice do not truly matter to your God, only a servile attitude towards Him. You could be the most wicked of men, but so long as you fell to your knees at the end of your life and made a show of devotion, you would be saved. You could be the purest and most noble soul, but if you did not, you would be damned.
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So what caused you to convert?
 
Jacob Harrison said:
I assumed you were because of your Anti Christian comments. Here is one of them.

So what caused you to convert?
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These are only anti-Christian comments if you believe your own narrow conception of Catholic doctrine is the only possible expression of the faith.
I will admit to being hyperbolic when it comes to Buddhism: Catholicism, obviously, has strong arguments as well. I would argue that based purely on logic, Buddhism is the most appealing faith to me, but the community of the Church that I was raised in, I feel, is a better fit for me.

Jesuit writings say that if one is Catholic in their heart, they do not need to convert to enter into a covenant with God. Likewise, if someone confesses their evil in life, but does not mean it in their heart, then they will not be spared Hell. Your interpretation of what I wrote is like your understanding of your supposed faith entire: facile. It takes so little to move your heart, by your own admission, from the Church to apostasy and back again. But even then, it seems to me that your faith doesn't actually matter to you: serving your delusion of installing the "true" King of England is the only good in your heart. Even when you forsook your faith, you believed that you should force people into obeying the Church because reconverting England by force is part of whatever disease is in you.
You do realize that your plan will require you to piss on almost every single one of the Ten Commandments and the doctrine of the Church for the past 500 years, right? Oh, wait, since you believe God chose you for this, you think you have carte blanche to disobey the laws of God.
I wonder: if, by some insane chance, your plan manages to get anywhere near completion, and the pope condemns your actions, will you obey his writ? Or will you proclaim yourself antipope?
 
Senior Lexmechanic said:
These are only anti-Christian comments if you believe your own narrow conception of Catholic doctrine is the only possible expression of the faith.
I will admit to being hyperbolic when it comes to Buddhism: Catholicism, obviously, has strong arguments as well. I would argue that based purely on logic, Buddhism is the most appealing faith to me, but the community of the Church that I was raised in, I feel, is a better fit for me.

Jesuit writings say that if one is Catholic in their heart, they do not need to convert to enter into a covenant with God. Likewise, if someone confesses their evil in life, but does not mean it in their heart, then they will not be spared Hell. Your interpretation of what I wrote is like your understanding of your supposed faith entire: facile. It takes so little to move your heart, by your own admission, from the Church to apostasy and back again. But even then, it seems to me that your faith doesn't actually matter to you: serving your delusion of installing the "true" King of England is the only good in your heart. Even when you forsook your faith, you believed that you should force people into obeying the Church because reconverting England by force is part of whatever disease is in you.
You do realize that your plan will require you to piss on almost every single one of the Ten Commandments and the doctrine of the Church for the past 500 years, right? Oh, wait, since you believe God chose you for this, you think you have carte blanche to disobey the laws of God.
I wonder: if, by some insane chance, your plan manages to get anywhere near completion, and the pope condemns your actions, will you obey his writ? Or will you proclaim yourself antipope?
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Oh I get it, your culturally Catholic but you are not sure whether Buddhism or Catholicism is the true religion. Catholicism has a greater number of miracles, visitations by angels and saints, and visions of the afterlife so there is more evidence of Catholicism than Buddhism.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly teaches that baptism, faith, good deeds, and penance are necessary for salvation. I agree that someone must mean it in their heart when confessing their sins in order to be forgiven. I was saying earlier in this thread that it is Catholic belief that even the worst of sinners can be forgiven if they truly confess their sins.

What caused me to apostatize and then reconvert because I have my faith because of the evidence for Catholicism. I apostatized when Fagatron showed me evidence against Catholicism and reconverted when I found answers.

And does my plan to restore traditional Catholic monarchy go against the 10 Commandments and Catholic doctrine? The Church condemned the revolutions that overthrew the monarchies and their ideology. A great example is the Syllabus of Errors. My society will also infiltrate the Church so that an agent is elected Pope so that the Church will restore its pre-Vatican II traditions and support my actions. A good result will be that the Church will defrock clergy involved in the sex abuse scandals. So if you care about the children, you should support my cause.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
Oh I get it, your culturally Catholic but you are not sure whether Buddhism or Catholicism is the true religion. Catholicism has a greater number of miracles, visitations by angels and saints, and visions of the afterlife so there is more evidence of Catholicism than Buddhism.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly teaches that baptism, faith, good deeds, and penance are necessary for salvation. I agree that someone must mean it in their heart when confessing their sins in order to be forgiven. I was saying earlier in this thread that it is Catholic belief that even the worst of sinners can be forgiven if they truly confess their sins.

What caused me to apostatize and then reconvert because I have my faith because of the evidence for Catholicism. I apostatized when Fagatron showed me evidence against Catholicism and reconverted when I found answers.

And does my plan to restore traditional Catholic monarchy go against the 10 Commandments and Catholic doctrine? The Church condemned the revolutions that overthrew the monarchies and their ideology. A great example is the Syllabus of Errors. My society will also infiltrate the Church so that an agent is elected Pope so that the Church will restore its pre-Vatican II traditions and support my actions. A good result will be that the Church will defrock clergy involved in the sex abuse scandals. So if you care about the children, you should support my cause.
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I am Catholic; I'm confirmed Catholic. Your facile understanding of Catholic tradition, your self-righteous sedevacantist rot that would move the Church away from being a more pure reflection of God's will on Earth, and the fact that you would desecrate the Holy See in the name of your crusade all indicate that not only are you not Catholic: you would likely never be Catholic.
If I didn't have other things to tend to, I would make you your own thread: you so self-evidently deserve one.
 
Senior Lexmechanic said:
I am Catholic; I'm confirmed Catholic. Your facile understanding of Catholic tradition, your self-righteous sedevacantist rot that would move the Church away from being a more pure reflection of God's will on Earth, and the fact that you would desecrate the Holy See in the name of your crusade all indicate that not only are you not Catholic: you would likely never be Catholic.
If I didn't have other things to tend to, I would make you your own thread: you so self-evidently deserve one.
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First of all, I am NOT sedevacantist. I accept all post Vatican II Popes as legitimate Popes and I am in fact a big fan of former Pope Benedict XVI because he was the most conservative of the post Vatican II Popes. The Church right now is not a pure reflection of God’s will on Earth because many priests have violated basic morality by molesting and raping children and the wicked Pope Francis has not been taking action to stop it. He has also promoted heresy. https://thehill.com/policy/internat...-pope-francis-is-a-heretic-causing-one-of-the

Causing the election of a holy traditionalist Pope who will fix the Church’s problems is not desecrating the Holy See.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
First of all, I am NOT sedevacantist. I accept all post Vatican II Popes as legitimate Popes and I am in fact a big fan of former Pope Benedict XVI because he was the most conservative of the post Vatican II Popes. The Church right now is not a pure reflection of God’s will on Earth because many priests have violated basic morality by molesting and raping children and the wicked Pope Francis has not been taking action to stop it. He has also promoted heresy. https://thehill.com/policy/internat...-pope-francis-is-a-heretic-causing-one-of-the

Causing the election of a holy traditionalist Pope who will fix the Church’s problems is not desecrating the Holy See.
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Directly infiltrating the Church and restructuring it in a way you see fit is taking God's house and redesigning it to please Man; you, in particular. No matter how holy you are, you are not wiser than God.
Cue you getting another convenient intuition that justifies this. You make Martin Luther look like Thomas Aquinas.
 
Senior Lexmechanic said:
Directly infiltrating the Church and restructuring it in a way you see fit is taking God's house and redesigning it to please Man; you, in particular. No matter how holy you are, you are not wiser than God.
Cue you getting another convenient intuition that justifies this. You make Martin Luther look like Thomas Aquinas.
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But I believe that fixing the Church’s problems will please God. I am sure God is outraged with the corruption and sex abuse just like he was outraged with the Pharisees for their corruption, hypocrisy, and pride.

It was the Freemasons who infiltrated the church and redesigned it to please man. I will undo the damage they caused.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
But I believe that fixing the Church’s problems will please God. I am sure God is outraged with the corruption and sex abuse just like he was outraged with the Pharisees for their corruption, hypocrisy, and pride.

It was the Freemasons who infiltrated the church and redesigned it to please man. I will undo the damage they caused.
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You're demented and I deeply regret engaging you seriously in any way, shape, or form. Seek help, or, failing that, walk into the nearest Catholic Church and declare that they're all heretics and you're God's new prophet.
 
drtoboggan said:
Dude really sucks at getting people on his side. I don't know how he will be able to recruit secret agents to fix the Catholic church and British monarchy.
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It is inevitable. I will raise my children to support my cause, they will teach their friends to support my cause, and the process will continue for generations until my society is big enough for my plan to be implemented even if it happens after I'm deceased.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
It is inevitable. I will raise my children to support my cause, they will teach their friends to support my cause, and the process will continue for generations until my society is big enough for my plan to be implemented even if it happens after I'm deceased.
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Are you married?
 
Jacob Harrison said:
How do you explain the fact that the population of Silvuna converted back to Catholicism. This proves that the apparition is real and that Catholicism is true. I pray that this information will cause you to join the true church.
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That story is impressive and all, but really a few sheeps and a mere city converting back?
my nigga Martin Luther shitposted on a couple of walls and converted the entirety of northern europe to his cause

the Catholics really gotta step up their games
 
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