Proof that Catholicism is true

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Not an_ime g_irl said:
What about abramelin, solomon, the roescroix, the aurum solis, the enochian... Are none of those valid? But they too have a ton of documented miracles, eyewitness testimony of apparition of angels and even rituals.
Are none of those valid just because they are not part of your movement? Even if they believe in the same things with the same objective?
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The documented miracles, and eyewitness testimonies is not nearly as numerous as in the Catholic Church. The more documented evidence something has, the more likely it is to be true.

The Crow said:
So is homosexuality a sin punishable by eternal damnation in hell? What about all of the homosexuals who don't cause harm to anyone and just want to live their lives freely and openly?
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They can achieve salvation as long as they abstain from having homosexual relations.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
That is because Freemasons infiltrated the church in the 20th century and made the church corrupt and ordain pedophiles into the priesthood. They are also responsible for the horrible Vatican II reforms.
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Well you're right about that. There needs to a serious reformation and purge within the Church to remove the corruption and degenerates.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
They can achieve salvation as long as they abstain from having homosexual relations.
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Okay, then how do you explain all of the homosexual tendencies in non-human animals, such as dogs? Because there are plenty of male dogs who engage in homosexual acts with other male dogs. Are they all going to hell for engaging in such a sinful act?
 
Jacob Harrison said:
The documented miracles, and eyewitness testimonies is not nearly as numerous as in the Catholic Church. The more documented evidence something has, the more likely it is to be true.
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You really can't prove that with a 5 minutes search, assuming an awful lot here, are we?
As i said earlier "what the thinker thinks, the prover proves"
Try to not be dragged by the current, echochambers can do an awful number on your brain.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
So you would rather be with Hitler, serial killers, and rapists, and be burning in fire, then to enter a great paradise and hang out with kind loving people?
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Depending on which version of the Apostles’ Creed you prescribe to, it’s debated that Jesus “suffered, died, and was buried; he decended into Hell.”

It’s suggested by some that this was part of that whole dying on the cross as the sacrifice for Original Sin thing and he was preaching to the dead and freeing them from Hell while he was taking a 3-day dirt nap.

Jacob Harrison said:
If you repented on your deathbed, you would spend a long time in purgatory before entering heaven.
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I guess that whole thing about Jesus forgiving the criminal on the cross beside him was just to make him look like a nice guy.

What version of the Bible are you using and which sect of Catholicism are you in? I’ve lost track of all you fundies and you’re different squads like Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, Calvinism, ect. It’s funny that you all hate each other because you think the division you’re in is the right one and the other people are doing the whole personal relationship with God thing wrong.

Westboro Baptist Church also thinks they’re the good guys. What’s you’re opinion on them and their brand of Orthodox Catholic?

Jacob Harrison said:
Which means that your moral culpability is reduced since you masturbated before I told you that it is gravelly disordered, but now that you know it is, it is now a mortal sin for you to continue masturbating.
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Old Testament? So everything in there is to be taken literally? You know, there’s sections of Deuteronomy that instruct people on how to properly farm and build a house...because these guidelines and laws were made 5000 years ago. In the deserts of the Middle East...and the average life expectancy was like...40 or something. So of course theirs some ancient text about not wasting your baby gravy. Having children was necessary to survival. They didn’t know in BC times that men can remain fertile well into their elderly years, or that marrying 12-year-olds would be considered fucking gross thousands of years later.

Real talk: what relevance do 5000 year old texts that were created in a time when stoning women was for prostitution was also a law have in modern society? Why not just take the 10 commandments and the Golden Rule as good standards of moral value to live by, and live your life trying to be as good person as you can?

I heard you’re an ass man btw ;)
 
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Jacob Harrison said:
Also Christianity and Islam are the only religions where non believers get damned to hell, so leaving Christianity is the greatest risk, since there is more evidence proving Christianity than Islam. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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You don't even believe in what you're preaching, you're just doing it to "play it safe". That's not faith. Your ideas of what constitute evidence unfortunately mean every religion ever is true. Pascal's wager only works if you assume somehow that only christianity should be considered. What about the religions who punish you with eternal damnation for being a catholic?
 
The Crow said:
Okay, then how do you explain all of the homosexual tendencies in non-human animals, such as dogs? Because there are plenty of male dogs who engage in homosexual acts with other male dogs. Are they all going to hell for engaging in such a sinful act?
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They are not God's chosen species, so they are not culpable for their actions. All animals go to heaven since they do not have original sin like humans do.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
The ones who sought the truth and did God's will in accordance with their own understanding are saved. They were ignorant of the fact that cat worship is idolatry.
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And whose fault was that? Where was Jesus to tell them that worshiping cats is stupid? God didn't even bother inventing Jesus for them, he just sat back and laughed at all the dumbass Egyptians worshiping cats for thousands of years like a pack of speds.

God is pretty much a dick.

Jacob Harrison said:
The difference is the proportions. God is an infinite being, so therefore sin is an infinite crime deserving of eternal punishment.
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God is pretty much an infinite dick.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
They are not God's chosen species, so they are not culpable for their actions. All animals go to heaven since they do not have original sin like humans do.
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Ah, original sin. AKA, the story about how a talking snake convinced some bitch to bite a "forbidden apple" then convinced her man to bite said apple, therefore deeming all humans as "sinners" the second they're born due to an event that was completely out of their control. :story:

Speaking of which, how does the bible explain the existence of dinosaurs and other pre-historic animals? You know, because scientific evidence kinda proves that they've been around for thousands of years before the first humans.
 
The Crow said:
Ah, original sin. AKA, the story about how a talking snake convinced some bitch to bite a "forbidden apple" then convinced her man to bite said apple, therefore deeming all humans as "sinners" the second they're born due to an event that was completely out of their control. :story:

Speaking of which, how does the bible explain the existence of dinosaurs and other pre-historic animals? You know, because scientific evidence kinda proves that they've been around for thousands of years before the first humans.
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Something something test of faith
 
Jacob Harrison said:
Here is a database for all the miracles. http://www.miraclesofthechurch.com/
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Basketball Jones said:
Depending on which version of the Apostles’ Creed you prescribe to, it’s debated that Jesus “suffered, died, and was buried; he decended into Hell.”

It’s suggested by some that this was part of that whole dying on the cross as the sacrifice for Original Sin thing and he was preaching to the dead and freeing them from Hell while he was taking a 3-day dirt nap.
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Us Catholics believe that. It is called the doctrine of the Harrowing of Hell, where he brought all the righteous who died to paradise.
I guess that whole thing about Jesus forgiving the criminal on the cross beside him was just to make him look like a nice guy.

What version of the Bible are you using and which sect of Catholicism are you in? I’ve lost track of all you fundies and you’re different squads like Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, Calvinism, ect. It’s funny that you all hate each other because you think the division you’re in is the right one and the other people are doing the whole personal relationship with God thing wrong.

Westboro Baptist Church also thinks they’re the good guys. What’s you’re opinion on them and their brand of Orthodox Catholic?
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I use the Douay-Rheims Bible, which is the English translation of the Latin Vulgate. I am a traditionalist Catholic, which means that I oppose the Vatican 2 reforms.
Old Testament? So everything in there is to be taken literally? You know, there’s sections of Deuteronomy that instruct people on how to properly farm and build a house...because these guidelines and laws were made 5000 years ago. In the deserts of the Middle East...and the average life expectancy was like...40 or something. So of course theirs some ancient text about not wasting your baby gravy. Having children was necessary to survival. They didn’t know in BC times that men can remain fertile well into their elderly years, or that marrying 12-year-olds would be considered fucking gross thousands of years later.

Real talk: what relevance do 5000 year old texts that were created in a time when stoning women was for prostitution was also a law have in modern society? Why not just take the 10 commandments and the Golden Rule as good standards of moral value to live by, and live your life trying to be as good person as you can?

I heard you’re an ass man btw ;) https://youtube.com/watch?v=3sWycGGlLFU
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The Old Testament documents the history of God's chosen people before the coming of Christ. Us Catholics do take the 10 commandments as morals to live by and try to be as good as we can by doing good works and preaching the truth to others.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
Because the Catholic Church has the most evidence of it being true. It has the most documented miracles, the most eyewitness testimony of apparitions of angels, saints, and the Virgin Mary, and the most eyewitness testimony of visions of heaven, purgatory, and hell.

Also Christianity and Islam are the only religions where non believers get damned to hell, so leaving Christianity is the greatest risk, since there is more evidence proving Christianity than Islam. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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Actually being Christian is the biggest risk, because your betting that your one single interpretation of God is the one true god and not the thousands of other religions, god figures, etc.

What you're suggesting is something commonly refered to as Pascals Wager, and it was demonstrably false centuries ago and you look like an even bigger idiot still trying to use that logic.

And a god that rewards blind obedience over logic, reason, and skepticism is not a god worth following anyway.

You're clearly are having a crisis of faith yourself and you're trying to convince yourself of all the bullshit you're trying to convince us. If you have more retards to high five in your holy house on Sunday you think it will make you feel like less of an idiot. It won't.
 
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