Proof that Catholicism is true

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I used to know a Catholic girl who believed in shit like reincarnation and "guardian animal spirits". Was she a true believer or just super autistic?
 
PorcupineTree said:
The death of Jesus is interpreted in several ways. Even some atheists have a designated meaning for it. The methods of atonement differ for Christians.

Protestants don’t see repentance as a method of erasing sins. From that perspective, you can’t diddle a kid and still be “pure” just because you confessed. (As a Catholic would.) Everyone is intrinsically unclean and the goal is to live in a way that represents Christ.


This threat doesn’t mean anything if people don’t believe in hell.
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The Ransom theory of atonement is one of the main doctrines of Western Christianity which includes Catholics and Protestants. Catholics and Protestants also both believe in the Satisfaction theory of atonement which is that Christ's death was a substitute for human sin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ransom_theory_of_atonement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisfaction_theory_of_atonement

And your right, protestants do not see repentance as a way of easing sins. They believe that salvation is by faith alone, so as long as they have faith, all their sins can be forgiven.
 
Uncanny Valley said:
I used to know a Catholic girl who believed in shit like reincarnation and "guardian animal spirits". Was she a true believer or just super autistic?
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She sounds more like a spiritualist as opposed to a catholic. Catholics strictly believe in either eternal paradise in heaven, or eternal damnation in hell, and consider reincarnation "blasphemy".
 
Jacob Harrison said:
I said, how do you explain the fact that a town full of Protestants converted to Catholicism, if there wasn’t an apparition?
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Autism.

Jacob Harrison said:
So you would rather be with Hitler, serial killers, and rapists, and be burning in fire, then to enter a great paradise and hang out with kind loving people?
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None of the above.

I will be in Valhalla, shiny and chrome.
 
The Crow said:
She sounds more like a spiritualist as opposed to a catholic. Catholics strictly believe in either eternal paradise in heaven, or eternal damnation in hell, and consider reincarnation "blasphemy".
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She called herself Catholic, and even guilt tripped me for a super long time about a "Easter is Zombie Jesus Day" joke.
 
Well I'm convinced. Where do I confess my sins and pick up my Knight Templar gear? I want to be Deus Vulting my way through the Holy Land no later than Wednesday.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
The Ransom theory of atonement is one of the main doctrines of Western Christianity which includes Catholics and Protestants. Catholics and Protestants also both believe in the Satisfaction theory of atonement which is that Christ's death was a substitute for human sin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ransom_theory_of_atonement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisfaction_theory_of_atonement

And your right, protestants do not see repentance as a way of easing sins. They believe that salvation is by faith alone, so as long as they have faith, all their sins can be forgiven.
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So what is your take on salvation? If I’m baptized as a Catholic and don’t bother with church, am I in the clear?

What if I just lived a life of sin and repented on my deathbed?
 
drtoboggan said:
How does a church get confiscated?
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Obviously by having it's property taken away.
PorcupineTree said:
So what is your take on salvation? If I’m baptized as a Catholic and don’t bother with church, am I in the clear?

What if I just lived a life of sin and repented on my deathbed?
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If you repented on your deathbed, you would spend a long time in purgatory before entering heaven.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
I want to convert you guys so that your souls will be saved. And the Catholic Church says that Faith and Reason are complementary, so I am trying to show evidence that will lead you to conversion if you use your logical reasoning skills.
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So you are trying to convert people to your doctrine because you believe your doctrine is the right one, and the only one that will bring salvation because someone else convinced you of this?
That sounds like a pyramid scheme, doesn't it?
I know thinking for yourself is hard and all, but it is better than just shallow whatever someone else throws your way as "the truth" did you know satanists believe their religion will bring salvation to their souls?
 
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Are all the ancient Egyptians burning in Hell?

I mean, instead of worshipping Jesus, they worshipped cats, and the Sun, and dumbshit like that, so they deserve to burn in Hell for their refusal to believe in Jesus, right?

It doesn't matter that Jesus hadn't been invented yet, those shitheads should've known it was stupid to worship cats, and they had to figure that something better to worship was going to be invented eventually.
 
Not an_ime g_irl said:
So you are trying to convert people to your doctrine because you believe your doctrine is the right one, and the only one that will bring salvation because someone else convinced you of this?
That sounds like a pyramid scheme, doesn't it?
I know thinking for yourself is hard and all, but it is better than just shallow whatever someone else throws your way as "the truth" did you know satanists believe their religion will bring salvation to their souls?
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While I was raised as a Catholic, I later found that my religious beliefs are validated by overwhelming evidence.

Malodorous Merkin said:
Are all the ancient Egyptians burning in Hell?

I mean, instead of worshipping Jesus, they worshipped cats, and the Sun, and dumbshit like that, so they deserve to burn in Hell for their refusal to believe in Jesus, right?

It doesn't matter that Jesus hadn't been invented yet, those shitheads should've known it was stupid to worship cats, and they had to figure that something better to worship was going to be invented eventually.
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The Catechism of the Catholic Church says this.

1260 Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.

PorcupineTree said:
Ok but what if a friend prays for me a whole lot. Can that speed the process up?
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Yes.

The Last Stand said:
Do Catholics believe in masturbation? Asking for a friend.
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2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."138 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."139

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

Which means that your moral culpability is reduced since you masturbated before I told you that it is gravelly disordered, but now that you know it is, it is now a mortal sin for you to continue masturbating.

Hellbound Hellhound said:
Why would the creator of the entire universe have any concern for something so insignificant as humanity? The universe is vast in both time and space, yet the concerns of religion are so provincial by contrast. Do you ever question why that might be, OP?
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Because we are made in the image of God. He choose one species out of all the species in the universe to have a relationship with.

That also means that we are the only species with original sin, so animals and aliens go to heaven.
 
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